February 8, 200620 yr Hey Us non members are losing out on a lotta stuff. I think Jatex should make more stuff for mebers then give the non members more access to things. Like places, armour, wep, capes, pets, quests, random events, mini games, arena's, random events and special attack. I think it would make more people become mebers and make more non- members play more and me happier :!:
February 8, 200620 yr Sorry mate, it's not gonna happen. You're new to the forums so I can see why you asked without searching but there's a lot of threads already about this, many of which illustrate the many problems that would create. I see your encouragement point, but look at the flip-side: The Jagex business perspective. It's pretty unlikely that Jagex will reward people who don't pay to help develop the game over those that do. Also, some players would feel aggrieved that their money is going elsewhere. Not all, but some. In any case, hope you have a groovy time on the forums! I'll try my best to make sure this doesn't turn into a flame war! :) ... Don't turn this into a flame war people! :x This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
February 8, 200620 yr Hey Us non members are losing out on a lotta stuff. I think Jatex should make more stuff for mebers then give the non members more access to things. Like places, armour, wep, capes, pets, quests, random events, mini games, arena's, random events and special attack. I think it would make more people become mebers and make more non- members play more and me happier :!: Err... Simply no... It will not happen. If non-members get more stuff people will quit members. Therefore they loss their money. They dont give a damn if you want more. They care a lot more about their paying customers. It will not happen in a large scale for example you may get like a few new things every once in a while
February 8, 200620 yr F2P is the whole game. Jagex will rarely add anything to it. What your suggesting would make P2P worthless. You just suggested everything that makes P2P unique. P2P is just an expansion of F2P. DO NOT MESS WITH THE BALANCE!
February 8, 200620 yr I agree, they should give f2p a few more updates. If non-members get more stuff people will quit members. I won't. Because I know p2p will still have alot more to offer.
February 9, 200620 yr F2P is the whole game. Jagex will rarely add anything to it. What your suggesting would make P2P worthless. You just suggested everything that makes P2P unique. P2P is just an expansion of F2P. DO NOT MESS WITH THE BALANCE! I think you have this all mixed up f2p isn't the whole game, nor is p2p an expansion off of it. It is better explained like this p2p is the whole game and f2p is a demo version that lets you test if you want to get the whole game. That is why it is so strange that people expect that the demo, aka f2p, should get updates. When you find a game you are interested in getting, you might download a demo to see what it is like, now would you whine and complain to that company to make the demo better or just go buy the game. Your true character is what you are like when you believe there are no repercussions.
February 9, 200620 yr F2P already contains more than enough features to entice anyone truly interested in the game into paying for members. You have to realise that, ultimately, Jagex is a business - they need to pay their rent, bandwidth and power bills, their employees need to get paid so they can feed their families. To do this Jagex needs to generate income. The main way that they do this is by selling membership to a more expansive version of the game. The free version is there to attract people into the game and show them some of what the members version has to offer. F2P has to contain enough functionality to keep people interested, but leave enough out that they will be prepared to spend the $5.00 per month on the members version (Which given that you'd pay $2.50 for a coffee is not all that much). So introducing too much functionality into F2P would be counter productive. More people would be satisfied with staying in the free version, meaning fewer would switch over to the members version - Jagex would make less money.
February 9, 200620 yr excellent points everyone. why would they give updates to f2p, not as many people would pay for the members now that they know jagex will update f2p [omg] who cares if its nerfed or fixed.... you people will argue over the color of a green apple if it was a topic on this fourm god.
February 9, 200620 yr I think you have this all mixed up f2p isn't the whole game, nor is p2p an expansion off of it. It is better explained like this p2p is the whole game and f2p is a demo version that lets you test if you want to get the whole game. Nope, he was correct. f2p is the full game, and p2p is the addons.
February 9, 200620 yr F2P is the whole game. Jagex will rarely add anything to it. What your suggesting would make P2P worthless. You just suggested everything that makes P2P unique. P2P is just an expansion of F2P. DO NOT MESS WITH THE BALANCE! I think you have this all mixed up f2p isn't the whole game, nor is p2p an expansion off of it. It is better explained like this p2p is the whole game and f2p is a demo version that lets you test if you want to get the whole game. That is why it is so strange that people expect that the demo, aka f2p, should get updates. When you find a game you are interested in getting, you might download a demo to see what it is like, now would you whine and complain to that company to make the demo better or just go buy the game. i think he meant it in the sense that f2p is like a complete video game, lets just say Diablo II since it's the first game I could think of, and p2p is like the expansion pack that comes out later. f2p is already complete, while p2p is still being upadated and added to. I am f2p, but I do not see the point of Jagex updating f2p, just like they would not update RSC. It is a fully developed, complete game, while the p2p version is still under development. Edit- and dwarfie, although i agree with your coffee analogy, i can pull the 2.50 out of my wallet, whereas i have to produce a credit card number for members. seeing as I am 15, that means convincing my parents, who somehow think AIM can hack my computer, to put in a credit card number online. Ain't gonna happen.
February 9, 200620 yr you realise how selfish that is? you can't just DEMAND free stuff. and if they did give a good amount of things to f2p they would lose members (one being me, i play for extra things. what IDIOT would pay when you get them for free anyway?) and money. you see jagex arent completely stupid and know how to make money, it wont happen. and besides f2pers DO get updates (lets say mothly? maybe 2-4 months sometimes) and MORE other games in the pay version... jagex has completely spoilt f2pers, but if thats what they want then theres no stopping them... neither is "FREE ST00F! i have a right to daily updates because i play the game and dont pay!" A Draconic Guide V1.4, Fimer - Multi-Timer Farming Timer V3.Dragon Boots: 39|Abyssal Whips: 16|Dark Bows: 1|
February 9, 200620 yr Hey Us non members are losing out on a lotta stuff. I think Jatex should make more stuff for mebers then give the non members more access to things. Like places, armour, wep, capes, pets, quests, random events, mini games, arena's, random events and special attack. I think it would make more people become mebers and make more non- members play more and me happier :!: If F2P would get these: places, armour, wep, capes, pets, quests, random events, mini games, arena's, random events and special attack, then there would be f2p that does same things that members do (without paying). And member would pay to do same things that f2p does. And f2p got new update not a long ago. Im not sure if this is right, but my friend was a f2p and got Sandwich lady when training against Lessers. Used to play RS, not anymore. WoW pwns!
February 10, 200620 yr Not going to happen, I agree that f2p's should get a FEW updates, but if they would get a ton of them it would make member useless. Dont pay, dont get new features. 6,521th to 99 woodcutting | Fletching 98/99 | Idarodo | Combat 90 | Total 1565+ | 38m+ total exp Retired.
February 10, 200620 yr i think he meant it in the sense that f2p is like a complete video game, lets just say Diablo II since it's the first game I could think of, and p2p is like the expansion pack that comes out later. f2p is already complete, while p2p is still being upadated and added to. I am f2p, but I do not see the point of Jagex updating f2p, just like they would not update RSC. It is a fully developed, complete game, while the p2p version is still under development. You're one of the first few people I have ever seen to understand that F2P is the full game and P2P is the expansion pack. No longer am I alone in this thought.
February 17, 200620 yr Finally, somebody doesnt think that P2P is the full game. Its merely an expansion! Think of it as a sequel. Always adding more. Then the first book is never changed!
February 17, 200620 yr Discussing whether F2P is the full game and P2P the expansion pack or P2P the full game and F2P the demo is a bit like arguing over whether a glass is half full or half empty.
February 17, 200620 yr If you say a glass is half full, you are optimistic. If you say the glass is half empty, you are pesimistic
February 17, 200620 yr If you say a glass is half full, you are optimistic. If you say the glass is half empty, you are pesimistic And what if I say the glass is at 50% capacity?
February 17, 200620 yr ANK (incorrect buzzer sound) Not gonna happen, have you ever heard of marketing techniques? Jagex doesn't put all this cool stuff in for members only for nothing...THEY WANT MONEY! SO WHY WOULD THEY MAKE ALL MEMBERS STUFF F2P? All this members stuff is just an attraction to lure you to members. Click for mah Blog!- I'm not sure why you would though because i never update it Achieved 99 Thieving 3/10/07-992nd to it
February 19, 200620 yr dude go look for neogeo's thread somewhere up the top of the first page. it deals with the f2p vs p2p topic. im a f2per so i can understand where you are coming from. but seriously, this is like saying "phr33 st00f pl0x" in game. you wouldnt do it there, so dont do it here. if jagex decides to update f2p, we should be grateful, even if its a crappy update. we dont pay, so we cant tell jagex what to do, or ask for free handouts. it aint gonna happen, so NO MORE THREADS ASKING FOR MORE F2P UPDATES. sorry, the caps were neccesary. its people like this that give f2p a bad name. and i dont like being called bad names :cry:
February 19, 200620 yr If you say a glass is half full, you are optimistic. If you say the glass is half empty, you are pesimistic And what if I say the glass is at 50% capacity? A literalist :P This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
February 19, 200620 yr F2p should get something new, but not the stuff you were thinking of. I think it would be cool enough if the Gertrude's cat quest became F2P, You would have a cat but you couldn't sell it once it's mature because they only buy them in Ardougne and you would have a nicer quest points total of 40 instead of 39. Now before anyone start flaming on this idea just think like this, F2p gets 3 measely items, 1 of them only used in the quest and 2 other items no one often uses. I've been P2P and I'm going to be again but i don't think that this would somehow make any difference in the econmy of runescape or that it gets f2p too much
February 19, 200620 yr F2P is a DEMO you do not update DEMO'S they are fro trying out the game. Jagex wont update the F2P because its really like a tutorial . The only update ive seen for non members lately was the arrows and bows change.
February 19, 200620 yr F2P is a DEMO you do not update DEMO'S they are fro trying out the game. Jagex wont update the F2P because its really like a tutorial . Wrong. F2P - A game in itself P2P - Expansion of that game. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you.
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