Bubsa Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 OK, bear in mind guys, this is just an entry from my website. Someone who saw it liked it a lot and then another completely hated it. I posted it hear because I'd like to see your opinion. It won't change mine, but I'd like to know as to not to offend people with it :( I'm interested most in the context and the arguement I try to make, but you can talk about grammar and presentation if you wish. I've tried to edit out any explicit words, but sorry if I missed some! So if this is actually very offensive to people, let me know. I hope it's just an opinionated rant that doesn't do much harm. Your opinions on the matter are gratefully accepted too! Why I hate The O.C. Ah, The O.C., or as I like to call it: The Rich Man's Hollyoaks. How many of you I have heard bellow in your panic-struck voices "Z0MG! Did u c da O.C last nyt!?!" Now, many of you watch it and it has many fans in America as well, so you may be questioning my somewhat unfounded statement of: "The O.C. is a bag of haemerroids". Well let me explain to you why: First of all, the acting. You know, when I want empathy from a character, I don't usually result in bawling in laughter at the sight of tears. A good actor will not even attract your attention to you to see they're acting, until they enter a significant storyline, which makes you appreciate how good they are even more. The O.C's actors fails this, in every regard. Second, the storyline. Can someone explain to me what has actually happened over The O.C's seasons that has been reversed...or has actually mattered. I think of none. Gathered, I don't watch it anymore, but when I listen to you mindless slo - I mean, friends - all I hear are the same story line and relationship problems over and over again. It's like that bloody rape triangle thing in Hollyoaks, oh no, even worse "Elle and her conscience" over Toby which dragged out...for 3 smegging years. Next up, it's the whole scene of The O.C. Yes, I like California. Yes, I like money. No, I don't like The O.C. The people in the O.C (now I mean the characters, not the actors - they might be fine young people, regardless of their acting ability) are nothing more than frat boys and girls, fueling parties and shopping trips on daddy's plastic magic. That's not drama! That's not a crisis of conscience! It's not even realistic, yet, the undoubted influence it has on people I know makes them want to grow up in the same vain. Well, sorry to disappoint you sugar, but life's not like that. And finally, the thing that annoys me most of all about The O.C. - its effect on music. As if ruining Phantom Planet for me wasn't bad enough (and the trip to last year's Rosslyn Park on the mini-bus - Bill Barr playlist: California, something else, California, something else, California, something else, California, something else, etc) they have absolutely murdered (excuse the pun) the enigma of Jeff Buckley and ruined the modern day classic of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah". There are the repeated hallelujahs of the soothingly hymn-like chorus, and there is a gently rocking tunefulness about the whole thing. This, if you didn't listen too closely, was what made it such perfect material for that supremely vacuous show The OC. Young, rich people - especially in California - often feel the need to look soulful and deep on camera, and the sound of doomed, youthful Buckley sighing Hallelujah as they all pondered the state of their relationships must have seemed about right. But look closer, Goddammit! You vain smegs! ...Sorry, just a bit annoyed. The point is, the producers of The O.C. take a song which has so much underlying meaning, semantic fields of The Bible and secrecy, and just turn it into another generic piece of slush that's been crapped out of that comic book Geek's permed arse. Look at the lyrics. Just by reading it can fill you with overwhelming joy and yet foreboding pain. Jeff Buckley did a fine job in the cover, but ultimately left it open to this Hollywood slandering, in the same way Kurt Cobain did for Nirvana; by committing suicide to escape the corporate regime, he did nothing but bring it further into the public eye and popular culture. Poor guy. Buckley's version actually had a great effect on the episode of "The West Wing" it appeared in (which came before The O.C. for all you fan boys out there). It seemed to adhere and fulfill all of Cohen's many connotations in that scene; a mgihty piece of production work. We can thank Buckley, however, for making the song "popular" if you could call it. Because for every 50 or so blasphemous covers, we are treated to a gem. None more so than John Cale's version. Ah the enigma that is John Cale already, it seemed so fitting that he should cover the song (Which I think was sang on an episode of Scrubs? - Now there's a good show. Irreverant humour one minute and then something extremely meaningful and emotional the next, like that scene). Someone said to me that it was "pure, cold and scarcely inflected at all, it sends shivers down the spine." and I whole heartedly agree. A new version I heard which sounded great to me was Gavin Degraw. I don't know how well-known he is, or the version, but he sings it with great emotion - but unlike Wainwright who doesn't - he takes it to a new level. His voice is very powerful and raw, and hautingly, it sounds like a cross between Cale and Buckley. Anyway, that's my rant of The O.C. Such a shallow show should never be able to ruin timeless classics of true meaning. But then again, that's modern day T.V. and Hollywood culture for you. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woopidoo2 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 yea ive got 2 guys in my class who were always talking about the oc, like: :o have you seen what he did?? and :o shes so hot! well i agree, ive seen it once and never again, i dont like the oc. :? [http://woopidoo2.deviantart.com][Tip.it Moderator from Dec 10, 2006 to 03 Sep, 2008] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snyper_freak Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 And, as you said, aren't there countless shows on tv which are just the same crap? A fair proportion of shows on the tv now are just complete rubbish. I used to watch a lot of tv, now i barely watch anything. Just because every single show on is either ridiculously unrealistic, or just another of those stupid annoying bloody reality shows. TV's been flooded with pathetic shows, and yes, i myself may like the O.C. but i can completely understand where you're coming from. I still ask, where's the difference to any other rubbish on tv these days? If u were to pick away at every show on tv, i myself would struggle to find one or two that are even remotely decent, realistic and original. But you just need to learn to live with it, or don't watch tv :P Rsn: snyper jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Putter Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Most guys just watch it so that they have something to talk about with the girlies. And the rest - I didn't have to read the post, I already agreed. But I did read it ;0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted March 15, 2006 Author Share Posted March 15, 2006 And, as you said, aren't there countless shows on tv which are just the same crap? A fair proportion of shows on the tv now are just complete rubbish. I used to watch a lot of tv, now i barely watch anything. Just because every single show on is either ridiculously unrealistic, or just another of those stupid annoying bloody reality shows. TV's been flooded with pathetic shows, and yes, i myself may like the O.C. but i can completely understand where you're coming from. I still ask, where's the difference to any other rubbish on tv these days? If u were to pick away at every show on tv, i myself would struggle to find one or two that are even remotely decent, realistic and original. But you just need to learn to live with it, or don't watch tv :P I agree with you there man. It does seem like I've victimised The O.C. and I guess I have. There are equally as bad shows out there. I just picked this one because it's the one I get most grief from at 6th form and for what they did to that song. In any case, did any of you guys find the post offensive? >.< This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfear Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I'm really not a fan of it. It's like a soap opera on steroids. Most guys just watch it so that they have something to talk about with the girlies. My best friend does that and it drives me nuts :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tintmangbpack Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I completely agree with you Bubsa, the show itself is ridiculus, how are we supposed to feel sorry or people who have basically everything and then because they are such morons make their lives difficult. No it was not offensive, I feel it was very justifiable Your true character is what you are like when you believe there are no repercussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subse7en Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Actually, when I watch a show, I tend to seek enjoyment, not looking for things to criticise, I usually don't watch too closely. I can't say that goes for the OC though, cause I don't watch it. It sounds fake and clicḫ̩̉̉. Anything bad you have to say about Lost? I DO watch that alot though, but I never found anything to criticise on, only enjoyment. My 99 Range / Hunter blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 There's 3 things I like watching on tv these days. Neighbours, My Name Is Earl and The OC. Most programmes are a pile of crap now, either they are some reality tv show which got old after the first big brother or they are some soap which just drives you insane with their moaning (eg. Eastenders) At least the OC takes you out of the country and away from the dullness of East London or Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted March 15, 2006 Author Share Posted March 15, 2006 No, I think that's a good show. The format may run a bit dry though if they make it go on too long...ala 24 nowadays. Don't get me wrong, I watch T.V. to enjoy rather than criticise. I just find that impossible with The O.C. At least the OC takes you out of the country and away from the dullness of East London or Manchester. Haha, that's very true. Hadn't thought of it that way :) It's good to hear that none of you seem to be offended by my post, so I hope I'll be able to express my opinion in the future in a reasonable manner. This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knives669 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I hate the O.C because... It's a bad, boring, uninteresting show. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwisatz Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 The OC is a stupid show, not to mention the fact that now everyone thinks that Orange County Choppers is in California, even though it's in New York, like a half hour away from my home town. And everyone walks around with OCC t-shirts, and I don't own a single one and I actually watch American Chopper... But that's another story. In any case, the only shows I go out of my way to watch are Seinfeld and American Chopper. One Tree Hill, the OC and all those other lame, deep soap operas are just what Bubsa said - fabricated, overdramatic pieces of shizzat. These people walk around in a friggin' paradise dating ultra-hot chicks and uber-buff guys, and yet they still have something to whine and complain about. It kind of sounds like the people I know who watch it - spoiled, unthankful, disillusioned, and judgemental. But about the Manchester thing - that is an excellent point you make :D. England always seems so dark to me when I see it in pictures, but I'm probably wrong. handed me TWO tissues to clear up. I was like "i'm going to need a few more paper towels than that luv" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietropaoli Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Hot girls. people making out what more could you ask for? I know hot girls making out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 But about the Manchester thing - that is an excellent point you make :D. England always seems so dark to me when I see it in pictures, but I'm probably wrong. If you you watch an episode of Eastenders you will understand :P It's very very depressing, yet about 10 million people watch it like 3 times a week. Pietropaoli makes a very good point actually.... What would you rather watch? Sonja kissing another girl or.. Mischa Barton kissing annother girl? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 hey bubsa just relax, it's harmless and if some people get some joy out of it, why should it worry you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizla Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 But about the Manchester thing - that is an excellent point you make :D. England always seems so dark to me when I see it in pictures, but I'm probably wrong. If you you watch an episode of Eastenders you will understand :P It's very very depressing, yet about 10 million people watch it like 3 times a week. Pietropaoli makes a very good point actually.... What would you rather watch? Sonja kissing another girl or.. Mischa Barton kissing annother girl? :P I'd rather just download some porn. I'm not an avid watcher of the OC because the acting annoys the hell out of me, but the one part of Bubsa's article i sympathise with the most is the part about the song. They actually play that stupid thing in clubs! Kirk and Lars I could handle. At the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I don't mind watching drab tv is there are pretty girls in it and there is nothing else on but The OC is so awful and the acting so abysmal i'd rather stare at the Test Card F with the mono tone beep for an hour Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Sonya kissing another girlThat was vile. Bring back Zoe and that blonde girl :( Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futurama Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 4 words. Don't watch it then :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 4 words. Don't watch it then :wink: Not quite so simple when it comes to tv. Because the airtime and money used on getting the OC shown on terrestrial TV would be much better spent on original comedy imo. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futurama Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Yeah, we might get more top notch american comedy like Two And A Half Men and Everybody Loves Raymond. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Or we can get quality British material such as Peepshow, Blackbooks and anyhting by Chris Morris (except nathan barly) Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted March 16, 2006 Author Share Posted March 16, 2006 4 words. Don't watch it then :wink: You just...didn't read what I posted did you? This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbobart Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I like the O.C. Love the music, no problem with the acting and the storylines are mostly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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