Animals - Do they have rights?

[Guest GhostRanger]

Do you have to be a member of Wiki to do it? If so, I don't even want to bother. I get enough spam mail. And I'm lazy.

 

 

 

If you really want the case, search the Texas Supreme Court archives.

 

 

 

Go to your hometown's page on Wikipedia and click the tab that says "History." that should let you browse the old versions of the article. If you would like, you could PM me or someone your hometown so they can look up the article if you can't figure it out.

[Barihawk]

Thanks Ghostranger, but I failed. The information was in the Wiki, but there was no link. Just a link to the Texas Supreme Court Wiki.

 

 

 

I are teh stewpit.

[mixand]

i eat meat, we need animal testing for medicenes, but i dont beleive we should do cruel things to animals or hunt them i really hate that`W

 

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[pianofrieak2]

i eat meat, we need animal testing for medicenes, but i dont beleive we should do cruel things to animals or hunt them i really hate that`W

 

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You do realize that animal testing, for the most part, requires "cruelty." The whole nature of animal testing is to test their limits, see what the consequences are of medicines/cosmetics/whatever else. We do it, and the animals feel pain. Many die.

 

 

 

But then again, would you rather test on humans? :?

 

 

 

I think we've already settled this whole topic, but your post just bothered me. Don't you realize what animal testing is? Try reading the topics before you post something and look...well, look ignorant. I disregarded the end of your post which was total rubbish and didn't exactly help your point any.

[CoRnMaN]

Between, mad cow disease and avian flu, I think nature's about to put us in check again.

Those things have nothing to do with animal rights, and arn't controlled by animals. If it wern't for humans there wouldn't be disease. Becuase animals have enough common sence not to build a city and then sit in their own do-do (black plague, london).

 

 

 

You could try telling the native americans that the buffalo wern't necassry to their ancesters, but they will prolly laugh.

 

 

 

I don't understand vegaterians at all. They are based on contridictions. You don't eat animals becuase they are 'life', they have 'rights', they are 'equals'. But yet they go out and have protests againts human beings who are their true 'equals' and flame them. Vegatables are organisms too. What about conivors? Fish are aloud to eat meat but humans arn't? Thats silly talk.

 

 

 

I have nothing againts vegaterians, I think its great that there is a group of people that respect and honor gods animals.

[tonytang123]

us human beings dominate the world! we are at the top of everything imaginable thing!

 

 

 

i feel since we so powerful we are no responible for the likes of other beings..animal testing..i suport it because we need it to discourver new cures and such.

 

 

 

i do eat meat...i been a vegetarian for about 1month lol...didnt really affect me....vegetarian food is actually really good :)

[pianofrieak2]

us human beings dominate the world! we are at the top of everything imaginable thing!

 

 

 

i feel since we so powerful we are no responible for the likes of other beings..animal testing..i suport it because we need it to discourver new cures and such.

 

 

 

i do eat meat...i been a vegetarian for about 1month lol...didnt really affect me....vegetarian food is actually really good :)

 

 

 

Please don't bump old posts! :wink:

[logic-is-overrated]

us human beings dominate the world! we are at the top of everything imaginable thing!

 

 

 

i feel since we so powerful we are no responible for the likes of other beings..animal testing..i suport it because we need it to discourver new cures and such.

 

 

 

i do eat meat...i been a vegetarian for about 1month lol...didnt really affect me....vegetarian food is actually really good :)

 

 

 

Please don't bump old posts! :wink:

He didn't.

 

 

 

And it was still around the top of the second page-not exactly ancient.

[yomom1919]

animals have as many NATURAL rights as us. none.

[Guest GhostRanger]

animals have as many NATURAL rights as us. none.

 

 

 

Locke and Jefferson would disagree with you.

[Mad_Da_Man]

No. Think about it there still living things wheather there human or not. How would you like it if we chopped your head off put it on a bun and ate it? How would you like it if we put your dog in the blender. No. You wouldnt like it. No its just muder, cold hearted murder

[runesmithie]

No. Think about it there still living things wheather there human or not. How would you like it if we chopped your head off put it on a bun and ate it? How would you like it if we put your dog in the blender. No. You wouldnt like it. No its just muder, cold hearted murder

 

 

 

Well... technically.... you'd be chopping my midsection off

 

 

 

mmmmmm

[Astralinre]

No. Think about it there still living things wheather there human or not. How would you like it if we chopped your head off put it on a bun and ate it? How would you like it if we put your dog in the blender. No. You wouldnt like it. No its just muder, cold hearted

 

 

 

I wouldn't dislike it if you chopped off my head and put it in a blender; after all, I'd be and my brain would be blended, which would make it rather hard to have indignant thoughts.

[Anesthesia]

No. Think about it there still living things wheather there human or not. How would you like it if we chopped your head off put it on a bun and ate it? How would you like it if we put your dog in the blender. No. You wouldnt like it. No its just muder, cold hearted murder

 

 

 

There we go again with the misuse of terms that apply only to humans.

 

 

 

The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

 

...murder is the crime where one or more human beings causes the death of others

 

the unlawful premeditated killing of one person by another

 

 

 

Once more, murder is a term that applies only to humans. Is it GBH when a cat attacks a mouse or bird? No. So stop being ridiculous.

[Sp4de]

The survival of the fittest..

 

 

 

Everything has there own rights, but right vary depending on your species.

 

 

 

I see certain animals (Cows, chickens, etc) were placed here for others to live on (for there food and such).

 

 

 

Do plants have rights? Animals eat them :P

[speedy_petey]

We are a part of nature, accept it! If we do it, it's natural. We are the next evolutionary step, but that does not give us the right it destroy others. We are omnivores, and for those of you to stupid to know that means, we eat vegetables and meat! PETA does more harm then good. We are animals and what we do is a part of nature. Do you think we are from another planet? You idiots who buy cruddy produce just because they say all natural, guess what!? Everything is natural, even if we make it, because not only are we natural therefore anything we do is natural, the basis for it all is natural by your standards. Also animals kill and eat other animals much more painfully then we do. Would you rather be shot in the head and die instantly or be torn limb from limb and eaten alive? I'll take the bullet to the head.

[CoRnMaN]

we are a part of nature acept it! if we do it it's natural get it! we are the next eoltionary step but that does not give us the right it destroy others. we are omnivouires and for thoose of you to stupid to know that means we eat vegatables and meat! Peta does more harm then good. We are animals and what we do is a part of nature! do you think we are from anougher planet! i doubt it! you idoits who buy cruddy pruduces just cuase they say all nature guess what!? Everything is natural even if we make becuase not only aare we natural there for anything we do is natural the basis for it all is natural by your standereds

Wrong. Nature is a controversial subject, that means there is two sides. But most would agree that cloning isn't natural.

 

 

 

I'll take a leaf out of Anesthesia's book.

 

 

Not altered, treated, or disguised

[speedy_petey]

so that means that anything an animal naturaly makes is not natural? it's like saying monure isn't nature becuase it's been altered!

[MyPurpleCrayon]

What does an animal make that isn't natural?

[speedy_petey]

fertilizer

[Anesthesia]

It is natural for a species to make life easier for itself.

 

 

 

The only thing that is unnatural is a species putting itself out for the benefit of another in the name of altruism.

[speedy_petey]

It is natural for a species to make life easier for itself

 

 

 

but what we do with animals advances ourselves and helps ourselves. so does that make it natural?

[jaklumen]

Let me return to some thoughts that were discussed earlier.

 

 

 

I don't have a problem with vegetarianism and veganism as a dietary lifestyle. The Western diet, at least here in the US, generally contains too much protein-- from animal sources. I agree that vegetarian and vegan food can be quite tasty. I have no problems using recipes for such-- heaven knows, my diet likely doesn't have enough fruit and vegetables, and even alternative sources of protein like nuts, soy products, and such.

 

 

 

I do know that B12 is not found naturally in a vegetarian/vegan diet. Most all that I have talked or listened to advocate vitamin supplements for that (at one school I was at, there was a special soy sauce in the cafeteria that they used on their rice for B12 and to complete amino acids for a protein). But generally, supplements aren't as effective as natural food sources, and often, you wind up with expensive urine. It's also much less of an option for impoverished folk, although I have heard of projects like modifying rice to contain carotene, which is distributed to Third World countries to combat blindness. This, however, goes into the bioengineering/biogenetic discussion which I choose not to touch right now...

 

 

 

...anyway, what I generally have a problem with is when vegans (mostly vegans) get militant and zealous about their lifestyle choices, which is why I will never support PETA. If they touch any of my shoes (including my Doc Martens), my belts, my leather jacket, leather pants, leather gloves, etc., etc. then there's going to be a big problem, especially if it's with the intent to destroy it or deface it.

 

 

 

Oh noes! The products I buy destroy the rainforest or are used on animals! Anybody that really knows me knows I don't have the financial luxury to avoid each and every single one of the products they find abhorrent for whatever reason. Do I have the money to invest in a straight razor because Gilette shaves bunnies? Generally, no, I don't, and I could go on...

 

 

 

Nor do I find their criticism of me because I eat meat welcome. I mean, some anagonize over whether they should eat something containing yeast. Do you really think that everyone wants to eat grain, meal, and matzah all day? Hmmm, giving up bread. Yeah...

 

 

 

I am upset when they become religiously fanatical about it, and since most people don't like religion forced on them, then why don't they show me a similar courtesy? I have no problem with them living their life as they see fit, and they are welcome to invite me to try their choices as I wish, but they can just forget it if they get up in my face about it.

[mrscrounger]

Well im not a animal right's activist or anything I personally think animals are meant to be eaten. I think its wrong if you kill animals for pleasure but food is a nessecity and meat is food. :) Also To a persons post on the first page where they said that torture is allowed and the owner can do whatever he wants to the animal, I think this is wrong. When I see someone hurting a animal for no reason it cramps me up inside.

[Anesthesia]

but what we do with animals advances ourselves and helps ourselves. so does that make it natural?

 

 

 

If you read my post you will realise I say that doing things for another species purely in the name of altruism isn't natural. That does not include things for purposes of preventing extinction, making sure a species is not over-farmed, etc.

 

 

 

Typing in large letters doesn't make you right.