Mmm000_Cow Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 It depends on what you kill, not just how many you kill. If you kill all skeletons chances are you'll get a lot of bolt racks and few mind and chaos runes, whereas if you kill only rats most of the time you'll get a lot of death runes. :x What was the point of that post? You don't know that for sure, which is why Satenza and other Tip.iters create studies in order to prove said facts. Give me a test with 300+ runs involving specifically killing only one monster down in the tunnels for different parts of the test and I may believe you. Otherwise don't post something just because you have a feeling its true (you say it like its a fact). Note: I more or less agree with your statement, but its completely off-topic, and no tests that I know of have been done to prove it. Maybe a group of Tip.iters will run a few tests in the future, as it appears that this thread is heading in that direction. Barrows was figured out a few weeks after it came out, these guys are just repeating facts that was confirmed then ;) I'll send in a query if you want. Also to the people who said rats don't give deaths, I AFK for a 40-50 kill count with Guthans and get a few hundred deaths each time. Skeletons I'm almost positive are bolt racks, they could be bloods too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussy4321 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 It depends on what you kill, not just how many you kill. If you kill all skeletons chances are you'll get a lot of bolt racks and few mind and chaos runes, whereas if you kill only rats most of the time you'll get a lot of death runes. :x What was the point of that post? You don't know that for sure, which is why Satenza and other Tip.iters create studies in order to prove said facts. Give me a test with 300+ runs involving specifically killing only one monster down in the tunnels for different parts of the test and I may believe you. Otherwise don't post something just because you have a feeling its true (you say it like its a fact). Note: I more or less agree with your statement, but its completely off-topic, and no tests that I know of have been done to prove it. Maybe a group of Tip.iters will run a few tests in the future, as it appears that this thread is heading in that direction. Barrows was figured out a few weeks after it came out, these guys are just repeating facts that was confirmed then ;) I'll send in a query if you want. Also to the people who said rats don't give deaths, I AFK for a 40-50 kill count with Guthans and get a few hundred deaths each time. Skeletons I'm almost positive are bolt racks, they could be bloods too. If you say Barrows was figured out already. Then explain this to all of us Tip.iters who don't know crap > Kill count's effect > Order of Brothers > Which monsters to kill > list of loot per monster > most likely barrow item > Time you should take to do barrows > Spell you should use Ok, maybe i know that you didn't mean you knew all that. BUT don't say you know everything and barrows has been 100% reveiled JUST AFTER it came out. No real proof has been made to proove half of the stuff that i said and it's just random facts "hy M4n, W00t i g0t veracs flail after using wind wave" 2 minutes later.... "hy m4n, y0u say y0u got v fl4il w1th wind wave...m3 t0!!!" "s0 1t mu5t b3 7ru3!!!" Then known as a fact from mmm000_cow..... I rest my case Aussy Note: members is back and i'm ready to barrows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aktivisti Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 All positions filled. Heres how I am recording my data: Thanks to all who volunteered there time, hopefully we can get some accurate results here. Everyone who has been assigned a team, add there team leader in game. Tell them your progress and keep this thread bumped with how far you are to completing this task. I expect this to take around a month maybe for all results to get in, and be ready for posting. Sorry to all those who came a little late in wanting a place. Thank you all! What is ur record data program name `? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l2Ol3El2TO Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Well, here is an update of my items from barrows (With 6KC). 3x Guthan Helm 2x Guthan Skirt 2x Veracs Brassard 1x Karils Coif 1x Torag Hammer This is all from less than 1 week of barrows. http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/76/d ... tedmd2.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Well, here is an update of my items from barrows (With 6KC). 3x Guthan Helm 2x Guthan Skirt 2x Veracs Brassard 1x Karils Coif 1x Torag Hammer This is all from less than 1 week of barrows. Lucky S.O.B. :P (especially all that Guthans gear :shock:) Does every volunteer have their data compiled already? I'd like to see how this test turned out :D (even though the smallish sample size won't grant us 'perfect' results). [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorkvader Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Does every volunteer have their data compiled already? I'd like to see how this test turned out :D (even though the smallish sample size won't grant us 'perfect' results). yeah i see that some people think that we needed like at least 50 people on each one doing 1000 runs each or wahtever completely ignoring the fact that orchestrating such a test would be really stupid and nearly impossible. i hope the results are revealing (considering the "lack of sample size") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 [ But they are right, such a small sample size for this test can yeild a significant percentage of error, but I'm hoping that we can get a basic idea of how much Kill count helps one's odds, if at all (I'm still not fully convinced that it increases one's luck at the Barrows, but that what we have these tests for :P ). [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firegizmoguy Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 There are my 50 runs, tell me never to do 6kc again because i always had to buy new deaths and minds. edit: Cheers laikrob got rid of the info now, I would really like to see how this is gonna turn out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aktivisti Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 There are my 50 runs, tell me never to do 6kc again because i always had to buy new deaths and minds. What is this program name ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Thanks, firegizmoguy! :) I have recorded it now, so you can remove it again. Need the other 6 kc results, too. Please pm me. You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooneyrules0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 There are my 50 runs, tell me never to do 6kc again because i always had to buy new deaths and minds. What is this program name ? excel probs ÃÆââââ¬Ã¢Ã¢â∠Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noriad Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 > What is this program name ? Either Microsoft Excel or an OpenOffice spreadsheet. Open Office is a freeware version of the Microsoft Office package (of which Microsoft Excel is a part). http://www.openoffice.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 I use microsoft works version of excel. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussy4321 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Now i feel behind :oops: Valor! GET SOME SORT OF EXCEL ALREADY !! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted May 1, 2006 Author Share Posted May 1, 2006 Hee hee, Valor doesn't have excel. We can ask someone else to total up the numbers no problem. Edit: My computer may be getting wped because its broken, and I get a new one. So my result data will be gone! Thank god someone offered to help me with my runs. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Rdam Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 lol i got this: 180 killcount: Dharoks plate, i was thrilled i though 180x2=LOTS OF GOOD STUFF 360 killcount: 100 chaos 200 minds 212 deaths and 536 gp -__-' Credits to Skully Sc for the signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmsk Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 could you update the first post mabye? would be nice to see the information you have so far in some orderly form :D , keep up the good work =) 18/22 skills at or better than 60.1300+ skill total.Barrows:Torag's Helm x2, Guthan's Helm, Guthan's Warspear, Dharok's Greataxe, died to dharok, Guthan's Platebody, Ahrim's Hood. All in a total of 104 runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlznScrPlyr3169 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 let me know if u need anyone else to help cause i do barrows more then anything and i'd be willing to help out if another experiment is started pm on here or on rs :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weicui Posted May 2, 2006 Share Posted May 2, 2006 ahh i havent gotten anything from barrows for around 35 trips.... :( although the last chest was dmed and dharok axe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooldude5353 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Edit: My computer may be getting wped because its broken, and I get a new one. So my result data will be gone! Thank god someone offered to help me with my runs. if your getting a new comp why dont you just unplug the harddrive from your current computer hook it up with the new computer and their you have it two harddrives on the one comp..unless either of them is a laptop of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satenza Posted May 4, 2006 Author Share Posted May 4, 2006 Edit: My computer may be getting wped because its broken, and I get a new one. So my result data will be gone! Thank god someone offered to help me with my runs. if your getting a new comp why dont you just unplug the harddrive from your current computer hook it up with the new computer and their you have it two harddrives on the one comp..unless either of them is a laptop of course. Broken one is getting replaced with new one by insurane. They are both laptops :P With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussy4321 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Edit: My computer may be getting wped because its broken, and I get a new one. So my result data will be gone! Thank god someone offered to help me with my runs. if your getting a new comp why dont you just unplug the harddrive from your current computer hook it up with the new computer and their you have it two harddrives on the one comp..unless either of them is a laptop of course. Broken one is getting replaced with new one by insurane. They are both laptops :P pfft i got rid of my laptop...the best computer i ever saw.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilrodyle Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 ill have mine typed up by tonight or at least tomorow night...had a week strugglin for money after dharok koed me and like 400 p pots noted..(im never using gen store method again). -good news...i wasnt wearing guthans\any barrows..just mystic top bottom and other stuff thats easily replacable :P (3m loss is better than a 15m loss) Dagannoth Slayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeekyhbomb Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 BUMP! :P Theres all mine... Barrows truly hates me... :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted May 7, 2006 Share Posted May 7, 2006 BUMP! :P Theres all mine... Barrows truly hates me... :cry: Eh, that ain't too bad. 2 items in 50 trips, and a lot of half keys (it seems like the monsters in the tunnels like you, but the Bro's don't :P ). 1:25 is below average, but with a 50 trip sample I'm sure it will balance out to 1:15 or so soon. [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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