This is Scary

[indy500fan]

The story.

 

 

 

Basically, Iran is going to pass a law requireing all non-muslims to wear badges. I'm anti-war, but this is a very big problem, and I don't know if there is any other way out of it. Your thoughts?

[Loge_05]

This is just to anger the Israeli government. Ahmadinejad said already that he wants to "remove Israel from the world map". I believe war with Iran is inevitable.

[indy500fan]

yeah, war probably is inevitable. the only way out would be for all the non-muslims to leave the country (i would if i was there and this happened). i dont see that happening though.

[katha610]

let's learn from history....

 

there was a group that had to wear a badge, so they could be identified as being ___________. (fill in the blank)

 

what groups are supposed to wear the badges now?_________________

 

where do you think iran's actions (national & international) might lead? Give Examples and Explain Why.__________________________

 

 

 

no need to repeat history.

[Faux]

That's [bleep]ed up.

[yomom1919]

if you havent realized, the jews were made to wear badges when nazis were in power. this is obviously inciting full-scale war, not just the guriella war going on between them (isreal or howerver u spell it)

[Bmms]

thast really wrong soon we (america) will go to war with them too

 

 

 

~Bmms

[yomom1919]

thast really wrong soon we (america) will go to war with them too

 

 

 

~Bmms

 

 

 

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs).

[Phil]

let's learn from history....

 

there was a group that had to wear a badge, so they could be identified as being ___________. (fill in the blank)

 

what groups are supposed to wear the badges now?_________________

 

where do you think iran's actions (national & international) might lead? Give Examples and Explain Why.__________________________

 

 

 

no need to repeat history.

 

Yep reminds me of when the Jews had to wear the star of David to show they were Jewish.

 

Pretty sad it's come to this these days.

[darkmage099]

ughhhhhhhhh

[Giordano]

. I think the U.S.A. just wants oil or it's Bush's family problems (desert storm or what ever).

 

That's the only reason. Bush is making money of it somehow.

[hohto]

They aren't the only country that wants to separate "right" and "wrong" people. Israel's highest justice (literal translate from Finnish, probably not the real word) just few days ago voted to keep one law. According to this law palestinians aren't allowed to live in Israel if they are married to an israeli.

[darkmage099]

got my post back sorry for the confusion

[Tetsuya]

thast really wrong soon we (america) will go to war with them too

 

 

 

~Bmms

 

 

 

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs).

 

We're having enough trouble in Iraq. We can't handle to go to war with any country that passes laws we don't like.

 

 

 

Anyways, I don't like the law. But it's their country, not ours.

[darkmage099]

 

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs).

 

 

 

 

 

O my gosh...These people are not gonna slaughter non-muslims...they wont.

 

Secondly, the governments arent really "whack" just a little close-minded (like you...no offense). PLEASEEEE, peaceful Israel? Uh huh, well guess what? THE MUSLIMS WERE THERE FIRST! Yes, I hate to tell you but the muslims are fighting for their land. The land belongs to Palestine and the other countries are just helping their brother out. PEACEFUL ISRAEL? If they were peaceful they would have left and understood that the Muslim people were at that location first. How would you feel if someone kicked you out of your home and just moved right in? Attack the bully?!?!?! Well let me ask you...why is America at war with Iraq anyway to push Sadaam out of power? Yes, we accomplished that...Why are American troops still there? I understand the badges are wrong but come on...Thats just a little..well wrong but still. I think if America steps in they will be the bully. They have no business there. I think the U.S.A. just wants oil or it's Bush's family problems (desert storm or what ever).

 

 

 

 

 

I'll post later.

[1_man_army]

Well I think its safe to say things are messed up in Iran at the moment. This combined with Ahmadinejad's defiance over the nuclear issue & his comments regarding whiping Israel off the map is making international relations a little difficult.

 

 

 

At the end of the day though America/UK wont have to take military action against Iran because I reckon if things continue on this course, Israel will take action against Iran first.

 

I mean its widely thought that Israel is the only nuclear power in the middle east, so Iran really should be carefull.

[darkmage099]

thast really wrong soon we (america) will go to war with them too

 

 

 

~Bmms

 

 

 

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs).

 

We're having enough trouble in Iraq. We can't handle to go to war with any country that passes laws we don't like.

 

 

 

Anyways, I don't like the law. But it's their country, not ours.

 

 

 

 

 

i second that

[hohto]

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs).

 

 

 

If you really are here only to make "good goverments", why does your goverment cause millions of dead civilians and why are they getting so well along with goverments that are criminals too? Look at Israel (which you said is peaceful) for example. They are breaking human rights as much as Iran, yet you are giving them a lot of help. I already told you about the marriage law, but if that's not enough, we can look at other things too;

 

* Smallest country in the world to have a nuclear weapon. If you want to get an image how small, think this: there's over 7 million people in London and 6.4 million in Israel.

 

* Most of the water goes to a small jewish minority (85% to 30,000 dudes, 15% to 3 million dudes.) while a lot of muslims are gathered to camps. Do we need to remind you camps like Auschwitz Birkenau or Dachau?

 

* At last elections, it was even at our newspapers that people from west Jerusalem had the right to vote. Is this and those camps really democracy? Is that marriage law democracy?

 

* Their old leader Ariel Sharon was as much of a criminal as Saddam Hussein. You can google info on what happened at Qiby in 1958 and who was behind that. Also Sabra's and Shatila's (spelling might be a bit different in english) slaughters should be mentioned, after all 1000-3500 civilians died there. Btw those were refugee camps and there was a lot of women and children.

 

 

 

USA doesn't go to war to help human rights or spread democracy, they go to war to gain personal goods. I don't accept what Iran has done, but I don't accept either Israel's or USA's actions.

[darkmage099]

i think america needs to fight if they want. the govt over in those countries are whack, and they will probably never open their minds. so while peaceful isralies are being attacked by the muslim world, i dont see why we shouldnt attack the bully (if war occurs).

 

 

 

If you really are here only to make "good goverments", why does your goverment cause millions of dead civilians and why are they getting so well along with goverments that are criminals too? Look at Israel (which you said is peaceful) for example. They are breaking human rights as much as Iran, yet you are giving them a lot of help. I already told you about the marriage law, but if that's not enough, we can look at other things too;

 

* Smallest country in the world to have a nuclear weapon. If you want to get an image how small, think this: there's over 7 million people in London and 6.4 million in Israel.

 

* Most of the water goes to a small jewish minority (85% to 30,000 dudes, 15% to 3 million dudes.) while a lot of muslims are gathered to camps. Do we need to remind you camps like Auschwitz Birkenau or Dachau?

 

* At last elections, it was even at our newspapers that people from west Jerusalem had the right to vote. Is this and those camps really democracy? Is that marriage law democracy?

 

* Their old leader Ariel Sharon was as much of a criminal as Saddam Hussein. You can google info on what happened at Qiby in 1958 and who was behind that. Also Sabra's and Shatila's (spelling might be a bit different in english) slaughters should be mentioned, after all 1000-3500 civilians died there. Btw those were refugee camps and there was a lot of women and children.

 

 

 

USA doesn't go to war to help human rights or spread democracy, they go to war to gain personal goods. I don't accept what Iran has done, but I don't accept either Israel's or USA's actions.

 

 

 

 

 

i second that *much like my post*

 

 

 

 

 

...also i hope "yomom1919" reads this

[hohto]

At the end of the day though America/UK wont have to take military action against Iran because I reckon if things continue on this course, Israel will take action against Iran first.

 

I mean its widely thought that Israel is the only nuclear power in the middle east, so Iran really should be carefull.

 

 

 

Maybe that's why Iran should get a nuclear weapon too? Do you really think they would wipe our Israel from the map and then get nuked back to the stone age? I bet even Iran's president doesn't believe that they are going to make it out alive if they nuke Israel.

 

 

 

At the moment Israel can do almost anything as they are the only nuclear weapon country at that part of the world. United States seems to accept (at least quietly) everything they do and no1 can really do anything against it as they got THE thing.

 

 

 

The best situation would of course be totally nuke-free area, but I don't see it happen anytime soon.

[darkmage099]

I also believe that the affairs of the Middle East are non of America's business. Its all about the $ for the Bush Administration. One thing I would like to point out is the fact that a lot of the Iran "stuff" got started about the nuclear weapons. Israel has nuclear weapons and is half the size of Iran (if not smaller) yet the U.S. hasnt done anything agains them.

[Faux]

I also believe that the affairs of the Middle East are non of America's business. Its all about the $ for the Bush Administration. One thing I would like to point out is the fact that a lot of the Iran "stuff" got started about the nuclear weapons. Israel has nuclear weapons and is half the size of Iran (if not smaller) yet the U.S. hasnt done anything agains them.

Israel hasn't gone psycho and declared one nation to be wiped out, has it?

[hohto]

is half the size of Iran.

 

 

 

Israel: 20 991 square kilometers (including Golan heights, english Wikipedia doesn't count them to Israel so it gives even smaller number)

 

Iran: 1 648 195 square kilometers

 

 

 

There's "little" difference ;) Iran is roughly 78 times bigger than Israel, not just twice.

[hohto]

Israel hasn't gone psycho and declared one nation to be wiped out, has it?

 

 

 

They don't declare, they act. I know really well what Iran's president has said, but I also know very well what Israel has done. I gave reasons why Israel isn't that great place, now you can think in your own mind are they so good.

 

 

 

Btw for Iran's president, I'd ask everyone to read Wikipedia's defination for populism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism

 

He talks what the folk wants to hear, not because he is really going (or even capable) to do it.

[darkmage099]

I also believe that the affairs of the Middle East are non of America's business. Its all about the $ for the Bush Administration. One thing I would like to point out is the fact that a lot of the Iran "stuff" got started about the nuclear weapons. Israel has nuclear weapons and is half the size of Iran (if not smaller) yet the U.S. hasnt done anything agains them.

Israel hasn't gone psycho and declared one nation to be wiped out, has it?

 

 

 

okay 78 times bigger that just makes proves my point

 

 

 

I never said Iran is being rational. Israel and U.S. are being unrtaional just as much as Iran.