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How to train skills - Without the Mills (V.1.4) - Lil Update

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Yes, I've decided to write a guide on training skills without having a massive payroll. So if you are peeking out from underneath your third party hat, or sweating from the weight of your dragon chain, then this guide might not be a massive help for you, as I'll be exploring the less cash dependant skilling methods.

 

 

 

Now we all know that people seem desperate to earn a little cash, which is very fair and most of us feel the need to be wealthy. This is fair if you are looking for a cool outfit, needy of a party hat, or could not be seen dead without dragon armour. But it really should not pose a threat to your ability to train levels. Sure, having mills pouring out of every orafice helps, but I think you would be suprised how well you can do without it.

 

 

 

Lets begin with the Most important skill!

 

 

 

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Farming is not your friend. It's the lifelong partner your should be with forever. Its the ultimate stat for people who want good skill levels without the hassel of merchanting and don't play for 12 hours a day.

 

 

 

There are two seperate ways to farm (which you can do at the same time), so I will split this up into sub-sections:

 

 

 

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Always, always, and I really mean this, at ALL times be farming herbs. There are some good ways of obtaining herb seeds. Daggonoths at Waterbirth are a great source of Toadflax and Irit as well as higher ones you should sell. Once you have at least 40 in total (irit + toadflax) sell off the higher seeds and go and pick 45 pineapples from Brimhaven.

 

 

 

Make sure you are only using supercompost. Plant your herb seeds in the four allotments and....this is the good bit....go and do something else. Which is the glory of herb farming, whilst your herbs grow, get to training other skills. You are generating cash whilst doing nothing more than taking 2 minutes to plant!

 

 

 

Now as you get better at remembering your herbs, and you stock up more and more herbs, you will realise that nearly all of your cash can be generated here if you spend a only a few hours a day playing.

 

 

 

After the initial 40 herb seeds are used up, buying irit seeds from players is fast and very cheap considering the cash they can create. Use the irits for Super Attack Pots for Herblore Training for great use of this cash making idea.

 

 

 

Now as your levels in this skill increase, I would recommend moving up to growing Kwuarm. Now I personally avoid Rannar as for one, Daggonoths don't drop them, and two, they are low exp for farming. Kwuarm seeds are sometimes around five times as much to buy from players as irit, but the cash you get back from them is much greater. This is one of the Skill Trainers best training investments.

 

 

 

Growing your own Papaya or Pineapple trees is a good way to get Supercompost and also farming exp. I'll be going into good methods of getting tree seeds in the next part of this guide though.

 

 

 

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Now, the whole point of this guide is for training without a mountain of cash, so being able to get decent farm exp is harder than usual, but it IS doable. The first thing to remember is that you wont be able to power-train this skill with my methods, but you will get 70+ without to much bother.

 

 

 

Always having herbs on the go means there will always be exp coming in. It might not be amazing, but it will suprised you how much it can actually help. The best way to get farming exp is, of course, Tree Seeds. These are great megoliths of exp which are slow to grow but quick to level you, and as such, can be a little 'Pricey'.

 

 

 

There are a few 'good' methods of getting tree seeds, which are as follows:

 

 

 

Woodcutting - GREAT! Training a skill to help another skill - a skillers dream. Since Teak and Mahogony are to usefull to burn away, rare wood trees might not be the best any more. For great woodcut exp and a good amount of nests, I would recommend Willows at Draynor Bank. Make sure you use all the seeds you can! Willow or Banana trees might not be as much as a Magic tree but planting all the tree seeds you get will really quickly increase your exp.

 

 

 

Moleh Moleh Moleh - Best to do this with a partner or two. Spend a little time down there, some people love it (moi) and some people hate it. Its a really good source not only of tree seeds, but good allotment seeds and nests as well. Remember that nests can sell for 2-3k ea or more, so its also a nice little cash earner.

 

 

 

Kingdom of Misc - Effective herb faming will easily pay for the Coffers each day. Have full work on maples (other is optional - I choose coal). Check in every few days, keep % at 100 and reap in the seeds. This is one that can be used if you (like me) wish to train farming without doing much farming at all. No forgetting Maples = Firemaking exp.

 

 

 

Now that you have tree seeds on the go you could choose to let that alone train your farming. I personnaly do stop it at that, but there are other things you can do to be getting more exp of course, which is getting good amounts of Strawberry, Sweetcorn and Watermelon seeds.

 

 

 

Moss Giants are quite good for them if you are into training combat, they are good exp and very nice allotment seed droppers. I will say though that there are no easy ways to get a big amount of these seeds. Thieving Master Farmers is poor thieve exp and brings in far far to many low seeds for it to remain a good way to obtain them.

 

 

 

Going back to killing the Mole. A good amount of the nests from him/her will give good allotment seeds, so try get a team that can kill it well to get these seeds.

 

 

 

Extra Farming Information

 

 

 

Remember :

 

 

 

Always make and use SUPERCOMPOST - not only do you get exp for using it and growing it, it massivly increases crop yield and survival rates.

 

 

 

Farming without spending quite a lot is a secondary stat. It wont level the fastest, but it will steadily raise using this method, whilst bringing in good cash for other needy skills.

 

 

 

Choosing to have farming look after trees is up to you. If you say no, then make sure you use SUPERCOMPOST.

 

 

 

Getting magic secatures will increase crop yeild which means more exp and more cash.

 

 

 

Getting an amulet of nature bound to your last herb patch will tell you exactly when you can get your next harvest of herbs.

 

 

 

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Ok so you now have a steady income of cash coming in whilst training farming! This means you have cash coming in nice and steadily and you are looking for a skill to train. Lets try....

 

 

 

Herblore

 

 

 

*Queue Jaws Music....

 

 

 

Ok, Herblore CAN be done in a Low-Cost way. I must stress again that it will not be as fast as doing it with tons of money, but i promise you'll be making super sets sometime soon.

 

 

 

First off. Run off to your Kingdome of Misc and get the Herbs going. Keep maples the most (Firemaking exp + seeds + nests) but we are just looking for any extra herbs we can get right now.

 

 

 

REMEMBER! This guide will show you how you can train herblore in a way that is one, profitable, and two, non time consuming. So you can be left to other skills.

 

 

 

Herblore training is impossible to guide in one band. So I splitting the guide into a few sub-sections.

 

 

 

Herblore Under Level 45

 

 

 

Go to Chaos Druids. Slice and Dice for Harralanders and Tarromins next door are Red Spider Eggs, use then with Harralanders and make fires and use ash with Tarromins. This is a free way to get 45 Herblore.

 

 

 

I would make more of a help about this, but level 45 should not take people to long.

 

 

 

Herblore Level 45 - 55

 

 

 

For the use of this guide, you will have to be able to make Super Attack Potions (level 45). You can drink a Greensmans ale for a boosted level if need be but below level 45 the best training method is above.

 

 

 

Now if you remember the last installment, you are growing your herbs hourly like a good skiller does, and have been raking in the herbs/cash. Well nows the time to get back to Irits. With this, every hour or so you will make (if all 4 survive) a minimum of 24 Irits per hour. now this does not sound like much I know, but remember, you keep farming over and over. Give it a long day, or two days and you have stocked well over 150-200 Irits.

 

 

 

It's always a shock to see how fast your herb collection grows when you grow herbs....a nice shock though.

 

 

 

Now here is where personal preference comes in. If you want to get herblore up as fast as you can using this guide, then I suggest that you should kill Chaos Druids whilst waiting for your herbs to grow. (Chaos Druids are suprisingly good ranged exp). If you are happy just to farm for a few days then dont worry about the herbs, just let them build up nicely.

 

 

 

Now. 10 Farming trips should be plenty to get you your first 250-300 Irits. I know 10 trips = 10 hours, but remember, do a trip before you leave for the last time of the day, and its like a free trip. If you were killing Chaos Druids you'll have 250-300 in a few hours faster as well of course.

 

 

 

Time to go back to Kingdom of Misc now. Get all your new nests and any new herbs and return to bank. By now you may have over 30 nests or so, so try selling them on forums or better still, use some Toadflax (which you should have grown some of) and get a player to make you Saradomin Brews. (Many friendly tipiters are happy to do this). These fetch a good price on forums, which will enable us to help the herblore.

 

 

 

Now at some time between doing your farming runs, you will need to start buying eye of newts. They are very cheap so this should not cause a problem, especially if you managed to sell some Saradomin Brews. Once you have them you'll need to buy the vials from stores as well. This may take a while, but is a lot cheaper than buying from players. Using the store west of Faldor over the gate is a good place to get both these items.

 

 

 

So, so far we are managing to obtain Irits + Vials + Eye of Newts at a fairly steady pace. We need to make sure that we are keeping our cash flow at a constant (actually you are making a huge profit like this) so this is the time to make up some pots to sell on the forums. Try to make 300. Which gives (about) 600k cash. Re-stock the coffers in the Kingdom of Misc and Re-Buy and Irit seeds you have lost.

 

 

 

Now, if you manged 100 irits per day, we did this is 3 days. so 225k goes to coffers and maybe 40k for new seeds. Which means we have 235k left to play with. Now, for the interest of leveling, I would recommend buying more irit with this spare cash, farming some more again over the next few days and repeating.

 

 

 

This should get you level 55 quite easily.

 

 

 

More added Soon (level 55-65)

 

 

 

Crafting

 

 

 

Crafting, like Herblore and Farming will be looked upon as another secondary stat. As with farming and Herb, when you have the items you need, the exp is very fast. But getting these items can be a bank-busting target.

 

 

 

But have no fear, there are ways in which to build a nice supply of gems especially, for your crafting needs. Also, using my methods to craft will give you HUGE stacks of Rings of Dueling and Rings of Forging. Rings of Dueling are fantastic for fast RuneCraft exp (going into that later in guide), and Rings of Dueling will enable good iron smelting.

 

 

 

For Gem crafting you will have to choose one of two primary stats. These are Mining and Thieving.

 

 

 

The Mining method is good for both stats. The mining exp is more than mining coal on a good server and is also a very nice supply of both new and old gems. The problem we have now is that this area is very busy as people want the new gems to get Trading Sticks. Competition here can really slow you down. Always remember to wear an Amulet of Glory (4) when here as it will increase the gems you get.

 

 

 

Cutting the gems as you mine them will keep your Crafting at a steady increase, and when you have a goodly number, making them into rings is a great whack of exp. The best ways to get Gold Ore are to boat from Ardougno south port, and mining in either of the two Gold Ore sites in Brimhaven.

 

 

 

The next method is a lot better in my opinion. Thieving for gems is a new activity for me as I was only told about it quite recently. When I tried it I quickly leveled my lowest skill to 68 in a few days and gained tons of gems. There is not much I can say about it in this guide as it is quite easy. The place to be is the Rogues Den under the Bar above the Champions Guild. Breaking into safes is awesome for gems. Just go there with some low food like Tuna or Bass, and steal hundreds of gems. The Thieving exp is nice and the amount of gems you get will truely suprise you if you have not been there before.

 

 

 

Ok, so we know how to GET gems, now is the time to use them. I prefer to make all Emeralds into rings and the same with Rubies. I then save up all my Diamonds to make into Amulets of Power to sell on Free to Play. (Its a good idea to find a F2P merchant for this, as it can be a pain). Saphires make Games Necklaces for Glory charging or getting the Den Or you can sell them if you please.

 

 

 

Will be adding more on Crafting soon.

 

 

 

Mining

 

 

 

This is just a small piece on some nice mining techniques to make it more fun and still decent exp. The best part of mining now is that you are taken away every now and then by the herbs that you should be growing :). This means that you will always have something else to do every now and then which can really help with this skill.

 

 

 

ALWAYS be wearing an Amulet of Glory (4) when mining as then you will pick up the extra gem every now and then which will always be recieved well by anyone.

 

 

 

The best way to mine for decent cash but really good exp is Iron ore. The two mines I prefer are Yanille north Mining Area (Has 2 Mithril spots as well, so its a nice bonus each trip.) and the Mining Guild. The area in the mining guild I use is the one just out of the door to the level 60+ area. The reason is is that there are 2 Mithril rocks and 3 Adamatite rocks. Picking up 3 Addy rocks can be 3k cash, which means after mining a ton of iron, you can help buy the coal for steel bars if you want to.

 

 

 

I am also partial to mining coal in the member area of the mining guild, but of course this is a choice that you can make by yourself depending on your own likes. Remember in this room are 5 Mith rocks which are nice to come across.

 

 

 

Thieving

 

 

 

This is one of them skills that can be done in a lot of different ways. I'm not very high in this skill so i cant really give a difinative way to train it cheaply or helpfully.

 

 

 

BUT, I would recommend as much as I can manage to get this skill done in the rogues den safes. This is a very, very good place to get some of them gems that we all need from time to time. The exp IS good in my opinion, its more interesting that other training methods as you can see a nice big stash of gems appearing and filling up your bank.

 

 

 

And, as this guide aims to do, it can then help you reduce the cost in getting them crafting, smithing, mining, and magic levels by getting them all involved in the ring/ammy making process!

 

 

 

We all need gems for the following bits:

 

 

 

Saphires - Games Room - Helps RC recharging glories.

 

Emeralds - Dueling Rings - FASTEST way to get RC exp + usefull for day to day travels.

 

Rubies - Smithing Iron - Need I say more?

 

Diamonds - Great exp - Can either sell to FtP as ammies, or make Rings of lifes for killing.

 

 

 

Now, this is one method of training the skill, but some people dont like a skill the requires training it with eating all the time, banking a lot and other exp reducing methods. So there are a few other places are about that I can think are a good place to be.

 

 

 

So long as you have not opened up any unbrellas indorrs, or walked under any ladders then you could try your luck with HAM followers and try get yourself a few Level 1 clue scrolls. I dont use this method as I have the worst luck in the world but its a method that give very cool rewards.

 

 

 

If you want to stay thieving, non stop, unsociably and as fast as you can manage, then I recommend going to the Watchtower (north of Yanille). Here on the first floor (or second if you are from certain places) and pickpocket watchmen! They give you bread EVERY time so this means you NEVER have to leave as you have tons of food. Good for exp but no good for helping other stats or helping your social life!

 

 

 

MORE COMING SOON

 

 

 

Next Installment soon

 

 

 

This guide gets updated sporadically when I get a little bored, or someone reminds me. I'm fishing for the next few weeks so there is a good chance I'll get a few more bits done/updated.

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Very nice, too bad i'm non-member and semi-retired....i was just getting into farming...

Awesome work! I can't wait to see all the skills guide'd, I'm sure it won't only help me, but many others! :D

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Thanks for the comments. Seeing as it seems to be accepted well, I'm thinking of the next stages.

 

 

 

Herblore will be LONG.

 

I'll get a Construction one up soon.

 

Carfting might be tricky, but ill get there.

 

Ill do small bits on how to train skills to help others.

 

 

 

And so on :)

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Nice guide, I might actually use it being as I only have 47 farming.

 

 

 

BTW, I like your title :lol:

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Oh, note that at the Lumby chest you can buy both apples and tomatoes. A basket of tomatoes will guard your oak trees for you and a basket of apples will guard your willow trees for you :)

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Good guide. I'm always looking for ways to make a little bit of extra money off a skill. Farming looks like just that skill. Looks like I can sit back and fish while my toadflax grows now.

Excellent, I'd absolutely love a herblore and construction guide from you! :D

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Very nice idea and good work on the guide overall. Keep it up.

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Nice guide valor, although I wouldn't borther doing a construction guide just yet. Prices are likely to change and make differnt options more and less affordable, but hey thats just me. I am sure lots of people would like to see it.

maybe add in alching while farming? a crafting(flax),fletching, magic, farming bonanza!

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Added in first part of Herblore Guide. Its meant to tie in tightly with the farming side as thats a big part of how I got level 82.

 

 

 

You should notice that the guides ties in a lot with itself.

 

 

 

Any comments please feel free to add.

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nice guide but with farming for money id put in ranarrs in because those are huge profits there and lots of ppl do it overall great guide tho

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Must say, it's a very good guide. I've neglected farming, getting all my levels from tears of guthix and quests, but you have some good suggestions I might try out.

 

 

 

Good stuff.

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in the smithing section make sure you put something about soloing the blast furnace. Someone on here wrote a really good guide to that if you search it.

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nice guide but with farming for money id put in ranarrs in because those are huge profits there and lots of ppl do it overall great guide tho

 

 

 

The thing is, if i assume people are farming rannars, their farming exp is lower and their cash pool is greater.

 

 

 

Which goes down the road of gaining cash not trying to get good exp.

 

 

 

Thnx 4 input though.

 

 

 

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in the smithing section make sure you put something about soloing the blast furnace. Someone on here wrote a really good guide to that if you search it.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I'll give it a go first though, see how it all works.

 

 

 

Ty for heads up

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Hey nice start!

 

So what should I be doing to go from 73 herblore to mid 80s like you?

 

I normally just buy avantoes or farm what I run accross.

 

 

 

Also, you should tell'em about theiving gems from rogues den.

 

Works thieving and crafting like a gem. :lol:

 

And you can make some money too!

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Bookmarked for sure! I'm somewhat of a skiller, even though my combat is 103 (slayer does that :) ) and I love to read methods from other skillers. Keep up the great work :D

 

 

 

A little note about farming the herbs: the fourth patch (ardougne) is quite far from a teleport spot and it's a 2 laws tele too. If you really are on a budget or don't have that much laws to burn skip that one. I allways start out at port phasmatys, tele to fally and finish at catherby because there's so much you can do there. You can fish (public chat set to off :wink: ), cut yews/willows, high alch or fletch in the bank.

 

When growing the herbs it's also smart to grow something in the flower patch too and maybe even in the allotments if you have the seeds. It doesn't hurt to bring 6 baskets with you on a herb planting trip and although the xp isn't that good it adds up over more trips. Best thing to grow would be sterawberries since you can put them in baskets, next best thing is tomatoes for the same reason and the seeds are easier to get (4k tomatoes in bank, never bought any :shock: ).

 

It seems my little note turned into quite a story, but I guess it's good to share methods :D

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Good guide indded, many people don't know that farming can be a very good way to make money.

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Great guide, some very helpful tips and a detailed explanation as well. It would be great if you could do this for some other skills. :)

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For the farming for cash part, are you suggesting that we sell the super attack pots or the irits/toadflaxes themselves? Would selling the pot or the herb be more worthwhile for cash?

I no longer have to PM you askin' questions :)

 

 

 

What about ammy of nature herb farming is so easy with that!

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