Guest GhostRanger Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 are you willing to stand up for what you believe in and fight for it if someone else is disagreeing with you and wants to change it? Hitler did, that didn't turn out too good. What's the point you are trying to make with that post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_pet_worm Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Standing up for what you believe in isn't always a good idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Standing up for what you believe in isn't always a good idea... Is it standing up for what you believe in that's bad, or what your belief is that's bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageloser33 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Honestly, I am pro war, even if we stopped war innocent people would still die. There's always murder and things of that nature, violence cannot totally be stopped. Some feel that our society is becoming to adapt and accepting of violence, but I go on the idea of Darwinism. "Survival of the fittest, the ability for one to adapt to its current surroundings," if this is done, if we can adapt then there is the chance to make it better. But until we adapt to this nature we cannot change it for we truley do not understand it. Violence and wars will never be fully stopped but I am sure we can make some sort of change for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragen Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I think that wars will never stop until we get rid of greed. And with the way society is looking at the moment, I think greed is on the increase. Greed is something you feel. We can't just "get rid" of it - and there's really no proof that society is moving towards or away from more greed. It's something people feel and it's something people have always felt. Very good point. What I suppose I'll have to change it to is, Wars will end when we learn to control our greed. Thanks Venomai for this super sig and Kwimbob for the awesome avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katha610 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 are you willing to stand up for what you believe in and fight for it if someone else is disagreeing with you and wants to change it? Hitler did, that didn't turn out too good. ... not again please! thats getting on my nerves, almost everything thats bad or not right is associated or compared with hitler, nazis or the concentration camps even though there is no real connection. he wanted to free germany from its opression and give it the posibillity to become self contained again, and thats what the public waned so they followed him. then he abused his power, and honestly he knows how to talk and win people over..... didnt the allies stand up because they believed it is wrong what hitler did? and i belive that was a very good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 ... not again please! thats getting on my nerves, almost everything thats bad or not right is associated or compared with hitler, nazis or the concentration camps even though there is no real connection. heh :P its kind of good in a way for you, because as soon as someone compares something to hitler, he/she automatically loses the debate. EDIT 1 and 2: whats wrong with my bbcode? am i just missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my_pet_worm Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Very good point. What I suppose I'll have to change it to is, Wars will end when we learn to control our greed. Being able to control greed is like trying to teach a llama to write an autobiography, there is so small a chance it might as well be impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragen Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 An end of wars may be impossible but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. I try to be the nicest person I can, if everyone did the same then there would be no more wars. However with the cruelty and madness going on in the world today, war is sometimes the best thing to do :( Thanks Venomai for this super sig and Kwimbob for the awesome avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianofrieak2 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 An end of wars may be impossible but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try. I try to be the nicest person I can, if everyone did the same then there would be no more wars. However with the cruelty and madness going on in the world today, war is sometimes the best thing to do :( I have found that the best way to enact change is to not try to accomplish great, far-reaching goals like saving the environment or stopping war. Rather, it has been my experience that the greatest results come from small groups of people working towards small goals, such as rescuing a few slaves in the Underground Railroad. I'm currently transitioning from a Wizard to a Mage and a Priest to an Archpriest. Lol both are nonexistant in the top 25. Hopefully I can change that. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higothrekk Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Your family dont sound like they understand the political aspects, it was important for the native serbs to shows the muslim invaders that they wouldn't take any crap, personally , while sad your story is basically running away from a battle that needed to be fought, but opinions are opinions, so good luck to you staying away from conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapical Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 We are moving towards world peace. No democracy has ever declared war on a democracy. Think about it, if South america, Africa and south east Asia didn't excist we would pretty much have world peace. Europe is completly united, Russia is now quite tranquil (unless it gets attacked) and the US only attacks dictators (and they are becoming a endangered species) ;) In all honesty these wars in the middle east suck but in 50 years with a stable, free, and friendly: Iraq, Afganistan, and maybe Iran. Things will be so much nicer agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 No democracy has ever declared war on a democracy. I have no proof to back this up but... No country with a McDonalds restaurant has ever declared war on another country that also has a McDonalds restaurant. Well not until the conflict in Yugoslavia... That was the first time lol... :lol: [/u] The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubsa Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 In all honesty these wars in the middle east suck but in 50 years with a stable, free, and friendly: Iraq, Afganistan, and maybe Iran. Things will be so much nicer agreed? I fear it may take much longer than that :( This is how much you all raised for charity. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 The only way to stop war forever is to allow yourself to be defeated - if someone declares war on you, you simply do not retaliate and allow them to take over your conunty and set you to slave labour. Read my sig. A country is occupied by usualy well over 10 million people. Thats 10 million times worth my sig. I will no present some pro-war views that I do not agree with: You have been strengthed in understanding and mental ability by your experince in war, and the hardships u had to survive. War can untie a nation behind a single cause (well it used to now that's not realy happening) War is cathartic - the tension between nations is released in small wars, rather than storing it up for a long time then unleashing it in an apocalyptic neuclear manner. There's lots of other reasons I don't agree with, but what i do say is this: The only way to remove war is not through diplomacy - solitudinem fecerunt, pacem appelunt. And when a nation refuses to engage in diplomacy to what recourse are we left? It is through war. And this, as is apparent, is a paradox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuBai Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 No democracy has ever declared war on a democracy. Hitler was elected. Lets say that again - elected. The Nazi party had a great following in Germany. Hitler himself was offered the chancellorship because he was so popular. There is no such thing as a true democracy either. I cba to explain but perhaps someone else who does politics can explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorro Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I don't know.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapical Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 No democracy has ever declared war on a democracy. Hitler was elected. Lets say that again - elected. The Nazi party had a great following in Germany. Hitler himself was offered the chancellorship because he was so popular. There is no such thing as a true democracy either. I cba to explain but perhaps someone else who does politics can explain. He was "elected" after his brown shirts assasinated all his rivals :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak722 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 No democracy has ever declared war on a democracy. Hitler was elected. Lets say that again - elected. The Nazi party had a great following in Germany. Hitler himself was offered the chancellorship because he was so popular. There is no such thing as a true democracy either. I cba to explain but perhaps someone else who does politics can explain. He was "elected" after his brown shirts assasinated all his rivals :roll: Not to mention tried to stage a revolt and used certain groups as scape goats to elevate his goals... The Enrichment Center reminds you that the weighted companion cube will never threaten to stab you and, in fact, cannot speak. In the event that the weighted companion cube does speak, the Enrichment Center urges you to disregard its advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Google90 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 HEY KAKOSI? Ja sam isto iz bosne, derventa :o Doso sam u Ameriku 2000...zivio sam u holandi i njemacku 1992-2000 :D ........ im also from bosnia..derventa same situation wit u man .. :shock: lived in germany and holland from 1992-2000 moved to usa in 2000 im also born in 1990 :wink: My house also burned down, all my baby pictures gone... I was in the following refugee Camps :Holland: Eindhoven , Den Helder,some more......also in New munich and more german cities and a couple of others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianofrieak2 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 No democracy has ever declared war on a democracy. Hitler was elected. Lets say that again - elected. The Nazi party had a great following in Germany. Hitler himself was offered the chancellorship because he was so popular. There is no such thing as a true democracy either. I cba to explain but perhaps someone else who does politics can explain. He was "elected" after his brown shirts assasinated all his rivals :roll: Actually, I'm pretty sure that Hitler was elected by the people. He amassed a huge following. It was only after he got into power that he assassinated all of his rivals. That's only one example of why a true democracy fails. I'm currently transitioning from a Wizard to a Mage and a Priest to an Archpriest. Lol both are nonexistant in the top 25. Hopefully I can change that. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katha610 Posted June 10, 2006 Share Posted June 10, 2006 yes, he was elected and abused his power now... that is not the topic. so please dont discuss this here. it is really getting old that in almost every (more or less) serious topic someone starts talking about nazi germany. :shock: alright. two people lived through similar situations and are safe now and that is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BATO Posted June 10, 2006 Author Share Posted June 10, 2006 Google90 add me in rs my rs name is bato1110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorboy428 Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I dunno if anyone has said this yet but... Dude you look like an idiot. The title of this Topic is "Wars Need To Be Stoped!". Welcome to the United States Mr. Yugoslokivianhgsaklsm Man, here we spell it with two P's. S - T - O - P - P - E - D Just your Typical Friendly Foriegn Person Helper... AKA the T.F.F.P.H. gatorboy428 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted June 11, 2006 Share Posted June 11, 2006 I dunno if anyone has said this yet but... Dude you look like an idiot. The title of this Topic is "Wars Need To Be Stoped!". Welcome to the United States Mr. Yugoslokivianhgsaklsm Man, here we spell it with two P's. S - T - O - P - P - E - D Just your Typical Friendly Foriegn Person Helper... AKA the T.F.F.P.H. gatorboy428 No, I think it's you that looks like an idiot. He clearly said: HOPE I SPELLED EVERTHING CORRECT. As you know English is my second language. He knows he isn't spelling everything right and he's not trying to pretend. You attacking him for no reason looks much more foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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