Shadowfax matey, have you ever read the Qu'ran, or even studied Islam? Because if you had you'd realise Islam is in fact a very peaceful religion. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that suicide bombers should be celebrated, that's simply an extremist interpretation.

 

 

 

If you fall for the old trick of thinking "oo, those suicide bombers claimed to be Muslim, then all Muslims must be suicide bombers" then your logic is appalling and your attitude racist. Look beyond the stereotype mate.

 

 

 

I think it says somewhere in the Bible that all homosexuals should be executed. Luckily, we don't interpret it like that nowadays. But if you stereotype a whole religion on a portion of the Qu'ran taken out of context and out of it's era you're not looking at it right.

I think that the homosexuality discussiong should end here.

 

im pretty sure the homosexual talk originated from your posts about homosexuals in iran.

 

 

 

If you keep up your idiocity ill ask you to leave.

 

 

 

Pot kettle black..

 

 

 

I'm talking about homsexuals, not marriage.

 

 

 

And how exactly are homosexuals treated for the worse in the US? Let's see... Clay Aiken, Elton John, Brian Singer, ... ooh yeah..

wdh? do you know how to read? I just told you!

Shadowfax matey, have you ever read the Qu'ran, or even studied Islam? Because if you had you'd realise Islam is in fact a very peaceful religion. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that suicide bombers should be celebrated, that's simply an extremist interpretation.

 

 

 

If you fall for the old trick of thinking "oo, those suicide bombers claimed to be Muslim, then all Muslims must be suicide bombers" then your logic is appalling and your attitude racist. Look beyond the stereotype mate.

 

 

 

I think it says somewhere in the Bible that all homosexuals should be executed. Luckily, we don't interpret it like that nowadays. But if you stereotype a whole religion on a portion of the Qu'ran taken out of context and out of it's era you're not looking at it right.

 

 

 

I'm glad somebody's said that (In a very good way, btw), because I would not have been able to anywhere near as calmly.

Shadowfax matey, have you ever read the Qu'ran, or even studied Islam? Because if you had you'd realise Islam is in fact a very peaceful religion. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that suicide bombers should be celebrated, that's simply an extremist interpretation.

 

 

 

If you fall for the old trick of thinking "oo, those suicide bombers claimed to be Muslim, then all Muslims must be suicide bombers" then your logic is appalling and your attitude racist. Look beyond the stereotype mate.

 

 

 

Actually, whoever gave you that information is incorrect. Here are some Scriptures taken from the Koran.

 

 

 

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

 

 

 

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

 

 

 

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

 

 

 

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

 

 

 

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216

 

(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

 

 

 

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

 

 

 

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

 

 

 

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

 

 

 

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

 

 

 

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

 

 

 

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

 

 

 

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

 

 

 

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

 

 

 

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

 

 

 

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

 

 

 

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

 

 

 

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

 

 

 

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

 

 

 

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

 

 

 

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

 

 

 

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

 

 

 

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

 

 

 

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

 

 

 

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:

 

Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

 

 

 

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

 

 

 

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

 

 

 

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

 

 

 

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4

 

(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

 

 

 

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

 

 

 

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

 

 

 

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

 

 

 

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

 

 

 

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

 

 

 

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

 

 

 

 

I'm not trying to flame muslims by any means. But I am pointing out that those who say Islam is a peaceful religion are wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic to North Korea, the UN delayed the vote. Again.

heres a little flavour to the conversation :lol:

 

 

 

http://break.com/index/security_test.html

Shadowfax matey, have you ever read the Qu'ran, or even studied Islam? Because if you had you'd realise Islam is in fact a very peaceful religion. Nowhere in the Qu'ran does it say that suicide bombers should be celebrated, that's simply an extremist interpretation.

 

 

 

If you fall for the old trick of thinking "oo, those suicide bombers claimed to be Muslim, then all Muslims must be suicide bombers" then your logic is appalling and your attitude racist. Look beyond the stereotype mate.

 

 

 

Actually, whoever gave you that information is incorrect. Here are some Scriptures taken from the Koran.

 

 

 

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

 

 

 

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

 

 

 

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

 

 

 

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

 

 

 

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216

 

(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

 

 

 

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

 

 

 

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

 

 

 

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

 

 

 

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

 

 

 

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

 

 

 

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

 

 

 

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

 

 

 

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

 

 

 

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

 

 

 

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

 

 

 

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

 

 

 

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

 

 

 

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

 

 

 

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

 

 

 

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

 

 

 

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

 

 

 

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

 

 

 

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

 

 

 

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:

 

Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

 

 

 

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

 

 

 

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

 

 

 

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

 

 

 

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4

 

(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

 

 

 

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

 

 

 

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

 

 

 

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

 

 

 

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

 

 

 

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

 

 

 

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

 

 

 

 

I'm not trying to flame muslims by any means. But I am pointing out that those who say Islam is a peaceful religion are wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

Back on topic to North Korea, the UN delayed the vote. Again.

 

 

 

what's your source?

 

...do muslims have hell to!?

 

 

 

isnt that an extremist Koran?'

 

from what i've heard they (the extremists) follow a different Koran.

 

 

 

so.. i dont know, i might be wrong, just speculating here.

 

 

 

because well i've met loads of muslims and none of them have cracked my skull and made soup out of my brains.. so..

Muslims do have a hell yes, and what is says in the Koran will happen to non belivers there certainly isnt something a "peacefull" religion would wish apon someone.

Well Lets see *Drags the Convo back to north Korea!*

 

 

 

Its not that they Shouldnt have defence its that they should have offence.

 

With the way there leader acts Why wouldnt u want him to have nuclear missles? seriously are u insane? u have a death wish? not only that They are a poor country and if it really came to id they might accoutlly sell Nuclear missles to the highest bidder.

wdh? do you know how to read? I just told you!

 

 

 

And I just listed names that are KNOWN in the US, yet they are gay. Are they executed for it? No. That's the difference between an uncivilized country and a civilized one.

 

 

 

You lost. I'm sorry.

 

 

 

And don't give me BS either, the Qur'an tells women to cover themselves up when they go out.

 

 

 

Replacing my words with a cry baby face is not only childish, but proves that you cannot argue with creditable facts. You are a waste of my time, and I really do hope that one day you open your ignorant head.

 

 

 

And get your facts STRAIGHT women in extremist homes are forced to wear vails. With all the sex flooded in the media, and all the 13 year old girls dressing as if they are 20, I think its a good idea if a women - who has respect for herself, and her body - not to conform to sex the way most females do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. - Sura 2:98

 

 

 

On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. - Sura 2:161

 

 

 

Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

 

 

 

Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. - Sura 2:193 and 8:39

 

 

 

Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. - 2:216

 

(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.

 

 

 

..... martyrs.... Enter heaven - Surah 3:140-43

 

 

 

If you should die or be killed in the cause of Allah, His mercy and forgiveness would surely be better than all they riches they amass. If you should die or be killed, before Him you shall all be gathered. - 3:157-8

 

 

 

You must not think that those who were slain in the cause of Allah are dead. They are alive, and well-provided for by their Lord. - Surah 3:169-71

 

 

 

Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fights in the cause of God, whether he is slain or victorious, soon we shall give him a great reward. - Surah 4:74

 

 

 

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil. - 4:76

 

 

 

But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. - 4:89

 

 

 

Therefore, we stirred among them enmity and hatred, which shall endure till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will declare to them all that they have done. - 5:14

 

 

 

O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. - 5:54

 

 

 

Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme - 8:39

 

 

 

O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. - 8:65

 

 

 

It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. - 8:67

 

 

 

Allah will humble the unbelievers. Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. - 9:2-3

 

 

 

When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. - 9:5

 

 

 

Believers! Know that idolators are unclean. - 9:28

 

 

 

Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. - 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.

 

 

 

Whether unarmed or well-equipped, march on and fight for the cause of Allah, with your wealth and your persons. - 9:41

 

 

 

O Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites. Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end. - 9:73

 

 

 

Allah has purchased of their faithful lives and worldly goods, and in return has promised them the Garden. They will fight for His cause, kill and be killed. - 9:111

 

 

 

Fight unbelievers who are near to you. 9:123 (different translation:

 

Believers! Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Let them find harshness in you. (another source: ) Ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers....

 

 

 

As for those who are slain in the cause of Allah, He will not allow their works to perish. He will vouchsafe them guidance and ennoble their state; He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them. - 10:4-15

 

 

 

Allah has cursed the unbelievers and proposed for them a blazing hell. - 33:60

 

 

 

Unbelievers are enemies of Allah and they will roast in hell. - 41:14

 

 

 

When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds, then set them free, either by grace or ransom, until the war lays down its burdens. - 47:4

 

(different translation: ) When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield, strike off their heads, and when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly.

 

 

 

Those who are slain in the way of Allah - he will never let their deeds be lost. Soon will he guide them and improve their condition, and admit them to the Garden, which he has announced for them. - 47:5

 

 

 

Muslims are harsh against the unbelievers, merciful to one another. - 48:25

 

 

 

Muhammad is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Through them, Allah seeks to enrage the unbelievers. - 48:29

 

 

 

Prophet! Make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal sternly with them. Hell shall be their home, evil their fate. - 66:9

 

 

 

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. - 98:51

 

 

 

Fight them so that Allah may punish them at your hands, and put them to shame. (verse cited in Newsweek 2/11/02)

 

 

 

 

Most of these citations from the QurÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢an are misleadingÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ I pulled out my version of the English QurÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢an and I type the following, comparing most (not all) of your citations from the big book itself. And keep in mind that the Term Martyr, in Arabic - shaheed - literally means ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦Ã¢â¬ÅWitnessÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ÃâÃ

alright, this is supposed to be a discussion about north korea. if you want to discuss different religions just use the search button or open a new topic.

 

 

 

i didnt read all of the posts but how did the islam get in there again? Buddhist/Confucianist, thats what most of its population belives in

 

 

 

I'm sorry, but I believe you were the one who pulled the racist card. Since when were Muslims a race? That's like saying Atheists are racists because they don't believe in Christianity.

 

 

 

Oh, and it's not like women in those extremist homes have a choice whether they want to conform. You know what honor killing is, right? Mmkay.

I'm sorry, but I believe you were the one who pulled the racist card. Since when were Muslims a race? That's like saying Atheists are racists because they don't believe in Christianity.

 

 

 

Oh, and it's not like women in those extremist homes have a choice whether they want to conform. You know what honor killing is, right? Mmkay.

 

 

 

Your just a immature child, who probably hasnt hit puberty.

 

 

 

Yes I pulled that card for a reason. Its wrong to bash and slander a whole religion, no matter what it is. Your words are just as bad as one saying "The Holocaust did not exist" ( YEA I WENT THAT FAR .)

 

 

 

And again arnt there extremists in every religion?? I consider you an extremist! You slander Islam as if its a joke, when there are millions of people following that certain path. I dont care if there is 10 people who are muslim, you shouldnt slander their beliefs. Its Natural LAW, respecting everyones beliefs, values and morals. I would respect your beliefs on Islam, but its just pure BS. I havent heard one creditable arguement from you since you started posting. You just keep repeating the same cabbage over an over again. "Homosexuals, Women..."

 

 

 

Guess what buddy! Women in North America are alowed to walk outside their homes without being covered! There are Homosexual Muslims, who are open about it! You are fighting a cause that doesnt even exist! Its just that you keep refering back to the extremists and then sterotype all Muslims from your extremist image, when there a lot more decent Muslims then there are extremists. It really ticks me off when people like you think they got Islam all figured out. Dont get it twisted!

 

 

 

Pot kettle black...

 

 

 

You should consider yourself lucky that I don't want to dish out personal attacks.

 

 

 

How exactly am I posting pure BS?

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_kill ... slamic_law

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_As ... az_Marhoni

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab#Deba ... ontroversy

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_ ... n_Pakistan

 

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/EN ... of=ENG-PAK

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_M ... c_violence

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual ... e_Qur.27an

 

 

 

or how about the quotes pianofreak posted?

 

 

 

And you believe holocaust didn't happen? Typical.

 

 

 

And don't kid yourself. Its your arguments have always been blank.

wdh? do you know how to read? I just told you!

 

 

 

And I just listed names that are KNOWN in the US, yet they are *. Are they executed for it? No. That's the difference between an uncivilized country and a civilized one.

just because theyre executed dosent mean theres abselutely nothing wrong in the way we treat homosexuals. What makes you think execution is the only bad thing out there?

 

 

 

Pot kettle black...

 

 

 

You should consider yourself lucky that I don't want to dish out personal attacks.

 

 

 

How exactly am I posting pure BS?

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_kill ... slamic_law

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_As ... az_Marhoni

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab#Deba ... ontroversy

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_ ... n_Pakistan

 

http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/EN ... of=ENG-PAK

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_M ... c_violence

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual ... e_Qur.27an

 

 

 

or how about the quotes pianofreak posted?

 

 

 

And you believe holocaust didn't happen? Typical.

 

 

 

And don't kid yourself. Its your arguments have always been blank.

omg again with the same bs, you barely even understand your opponments argument, yet you still talk about the subject as if you know it by heart. Stop the stereotyping!

wdh? do you know how to read? I just told you!

 

 

 

And I just listed names that are KNOWN in the US, yet they are *. Are they executed for it? No. That's the difference between an uncivilized country and a civilized one.

 

 

 

US executes people to.. not for there sexual orientation but they do execute people so define civilized. :roll:

 

Teenagers are being executed to.. more teenagers executed a year within the US then in the middle east- again define civilized

just because theyre executed dosent mean theres abselutely nothing wrong in the way we treat homosexuals. What makes you think execution is the only bad thing out there?

 

 

 

Lol, how exactly does the US treat homosexuals? I just named famous people who are openly gay. They don't have any problem do they?

 

 

 

And I'm sorry to tell you this, but death is a very very bad thing.

omg again with the same bs, you barely even understand your opponments argument, yet you still talk about the subject as if you know it by heart. Stop the stereotyping!

 

 

 

Wth? Where's his argument?

 

 

 

Stop talking to me if you're just going to act like a baby.

once again, mind reading what other people post before you open your big mouth?

 

US executes people to.. not for there sexual orientation but they do execute people so define civilized. :roll:

 

Teenagers are being executed to.. more teenagers executed a year within the US then in the middle east- again define civilized

 

 

 

You really think I'd believe your made up statistics?

once again, mind reading what other people post before you open your big mouth?

 

 

 

Lol, take the sand out of your *. You nor he have no argument. Stop speaking for him either way, why don't you post proofs against what I say instead of telling me what to do?

you said Elton John.. he's british.. and went couldnt get married within the states and doesn't like that.. so he isnt exactly ok with how the US treats homosexuals.

 

Are homosexuals alowd within the army now? i heard at first they weren't :shock:

 

US executes people to.. not for there sexual orientation but they do execute people so define civilized. :roll:

 

Teenagers are being executed to.. more teenagers executed a year within the US then in the middle east- again define civilized

 

 

 

You really think I'd believe your made up statistics?

what rock did you crawl out of? every 10 year old knows the US executes people, including teens.