Why am I a lousy miner?

[Pieceocake1]

My mining's up to lvl 73 (which is pretty good). But anytime I'm fighting for ore, the other guy always beats me to it. I check their high score stats and it's someone with lvl 54 mining or something similar. I'm not exaggerating either. I kept count at the Silo Village gem mine just now. Me and a lvl 53 miner and he managed to get like 86% of the gems.

 

 

 

I'm not carry a weapon/sheild or anything that would slow me down or disadvantage me. I stopped wearing gloves for a while but it made no difference. I've a standard rune pick which is what everyone uses. So does anyone know what the variables are when it comes to streamlining your mining and bonus points and a budwieser if you can tell me why my guy sucks so badly at it?

[perro1991]

EXTREMELY bad luck.

 

Mining is based highly on chance timing, which is influenced by your level noticably (beyond the huge difficulty at the beginning) only if you have a good 10-20 levels on the requirement.

 

Otherwise its mostly luck.

 

Now, if you had a level of around 80 he would have no chance. But at 73, though it's close, somehow the chance changes just that much.

 

 

 

Just be patient, eventually you will get what you want. No need to get all upset. :evil:

[Blubber]

EXTREMELY bad luck.

 

Mining is based highly on chance timing, which is influenced by your level noticably (beyond thehuge difficulty at the beginning) only if you have a good 10-20 levels on the requirement.

 

Otherwise its mostly luck.

 

 

 

Yep.

[perro1991]

A temporary solution that doesn't involve a month of mining to 80 is to divide the 7 gem rocks between the two of you. 3 each, the middle is free for both of you.

[albert736]

I guess there is really no tip to mining except the timing and luck............

[piman1053]

just bad luck, try and hop worlds

[Risen_The]

If you're repeat-clicking, then stop that. If you're not... well, you'll start getting those ores someday. :-w

[zubeedoo]

If you're repeat-clicking, then stop that. If you're not... well, you'll start getting those ores someday. :-w

For lower lvls, this is true.

 

Yes 72 is low.

 

Mine is 85, and I STILL prefer mining coal to runeite, so I have a fair bit of experience here.

 

 

 

Now as far as lvls go when competing, THEY DO NOTHING. Again, I speak from experience. And I've actually tested this. I'll literally mine CIRCLES around a guy (meaning I'll mine 6 to 8 coals around him while he mines one, at my lvl more then half the time if I double click I get the coal in 2 swings), but if we start competing there seems to be a 50/50 chance I'll get the coal.

 

 

 

Don't compete, it's NEVER going to end well for you.

[Burningbman]

Also, make sure you gots a charged glory ammy, or mining gem rocks in Shilo is suicide :wall:

[dorkvader]

i remember having 31-35 mining south of lumbringe and ALWAYS beating the level 50-70s that frquent the place. i was so happy.

 

 

 

and if htey are level 54, go mine in the guild

[gamblingfool]

Don't compete, it's NEVER going to end well for you.

 

 

 

+1

 

 

 

I find competing for rocks is really rude, like if you were mining then I just came up to the same rock and tried too. I find it as common courtesy to just not fight, and move on. This way, there's basically no chance of losing the ore unless other people are jerks.

[devoted12]

I would say its a combination of bad luck and slow reflexes depending on what your mining. If you are mining iron and you both have a rune pic the first person to click the rock usually gets the ore regardless of his/her lvl. Better luck in the future!

[Dexek]

All I can say is make a quick click and hope for the best. Good luck mining. :)

 

 

 

I myself am only 75 mining, yet I can mine circles around people with 90+ mining very often (coal). :wink:

[imaleber]

i would say that it is either caused by bad luck or extreme lag

[Iantiger]

I know what you're experiencing. That used to happen to me a lot - so much so that it can't just be down to so-called bad luck.

 

 

 

I reckon it's got a lot to do with your ping. Even if you're not lagging, if the other guy has a lower ping than you, his request to mine the rock is going to reach the Runescape Server first, and I'm guessing the server works on a first come first served basis so it gives him the ore. Even if you click at exactly the same time, if his ping is better (lower), he will get the ore first.

 

 

 

However ping fluctuates (it isn't a static value), so occasionally the person with the higher ping will 'jump' slightly lower than the guy with low ping and voila the server gives the ore to you instead.

 

 

 

To decrease your ping you should try and ensure you are running, preferably, no other applications other than Runescape itself. Peer2Peer programs are especially ping-greedy (I wouldn't encourage their general use anyway), and if you shut these down if you have any, your ping should decrease a lot. Even something as trivial as windows media player can have small effects on your ping as it's something else your processor has to deal with.

 

 

 

I could be completely wrong but it seems like a pretty watertight theory to me.

 

 

 

~Ian

[Dragon_lord]

Umm......maybe you had a bad internet connection?

[mikeb912]

u just have to click faster than the other guys

[zubeedoo]

Ping, slow internet connection etc. only have an effect on mining if they slow you down so much that the other guy's already mining by the time you get there.

 

 

 

Again, I speak from experience, as more then 1 guy CAN get a rock.

 

I used to have a theory about how mining works, but since tryint to mine runeite with 84 mining and a stout (oddly I havn't been to the RR's much since I got to 85...). Here' goes:

 

 

 

You click on the rock, you make your first swing.

 

If you don't get the ore, you get a certain number of swings that DON'T DO ANYTHING, they're just there to waste time. I believe rune is the only pickaxe that attempts to get the ore FIRST, as others have a few 'practice" swings prior to actually deciding whether or not you get the ore. (This btw is the reason that double clicking a rock DOES work)

 

 

 

Lag has no effect on this (unless it's REALLY bad).

 

 

 

After a few swings (3 I believe with rune pickaxes) you'll notice the animation jump (anyone who mines should know what I'm talking about).

 

 

 

This signals the end of one attempt and the beginning of another. HOWEVER, you can ALSO get the ore at the end of one attempt.

 

 

 

Now, let's say the server generates a number, and you need a 5 or higher to mine the rock:

 

You and a guy are competing for the rock,your numbers are

 

2,3,4,1,7

 

and his are

 

4,3,1,2,5

 

He mines the ore FIRST because he has a better PING,most people, upon seeing a grey rock, quickly click on another. DON'T DO THIS! Because, as I mentionned before, you have a chance to get an ore at the END of an attempt as well as at the beginning. If you stay, you can get the coal from the seemingly empty rock (and yes I have tried this, MANY times, as well as having my brother purposely compete with me to see if it's possible). I'm guessing (well more then a guess, it's logic) that your guy only checks to see if there's ore in the rock at the BEGINNING of an attempt, so if you get the ore at the END, you'll get it even if there isn't an ore anymore (because this has not been checked, it's just assumed that there's still an ore)

 

Remember, with the new game engine jagex does, more or less, ALL of the calculating for you, all your computer is doing is drawing up the graphics and sending information about your mouse and keyboard, so the lag of your computer will have little effect on how quickly the numbers get generated.

[baron8000]

im gona have to side with the pingers, i play runescape regularly on 2 different computers one with 512 internet, the other with 4 mb, and i almost always notice i slight drop in efficiency with the slower internet connection, when im competing of course.

 

 

 

Although i only mine coal, and im only lvl 48 mining, so what do i know :D

[yttrium88]

Oh yeah, I would definately agree that ping affects your efficiency in mining. But I actually find the human side of things to be more interesting. So I was wondering what people do as far as a mouse (or finger steroids, or dangerously caffinated beverages...).

 

 

 

Oh, and btw, I think I noticed that "both people get the prize" thing when watching a friend shear sheep. Like both people got the wool. Not very high stakes, i realaze, but it possibly carries over into other things. :-k

[SweetKai]

Mining levels don't seem to matter. I am 89 mining and a coal seems to be as super slow as they were when I was level 60. Mining update please! :evil:

[Umega]

Was the guy wearing a charged glory ammy? If he was that's probably why he was mining gems so quickly. Rune Pick + Charged Glory = 1 hit gem rock.

[fshiu]

When I mine coal, sometimes I find that if I time a second click correctly (i.e. click the rock again when the pick is in mid-air) I can two-hit it. I think the correct time to click is around when the pick is at its highest point. Or maybe it's just my 85 mining...

[Michael_Allen]

either your internet connection is bad, or the other persons is amazing.and if both of them apply ur screwed.

[ShadowSam19]

 

 

 

Now as far as lvls go when competing, THEY DO NOTHING. Again, I speak from experience. And I've actually tested this. I'll literally mine CIRCLES around a guy (meaning I'll mine 6 to 8 coals around him while he mines one, at my lvl more then half the time if I double click I get the coal in 2 swings), but if we start competing there seems to be a 50/50 chance I'll get the coal.

 

 

I disagree with that statement. Though I haven't really been observant enough while mining coal to be able to argue with what you're saying pertaining to coal, I have mined ALOT of silver ore in the crafting guild, and in there, lvl DOES matter. I was mid 70s mining lvl when I started mining 12k silver ore for my 70 crafting, and can assure that I would get 6/7 ores if the miner was below me, half as much when they were even, and 1/7 if they were higher. As my lvl increased to the upper 70s, I rarely lost more than 1 silver ore spawn per rotation, simply because my mining lvl was higher then all the other silver miners. Once again, I have little experience with coal, so there may be a difference between coal and silver, I'm not sure. (btw, my mining is 85)