katsuro0 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 here's the amazingly simple solution to runescape's scamming situation. if an abuse report is sent into jagex, and if they review it and determine that a scam did take place, then the scammer would get muted for one month, have his entire bank delivered to the victum (the account would be locked until a jagex mod finds time to deliver it), and automatically recieve 2 black marks. it doesn't matter if it was a 1k or 100mil scam. if you think this is too harse, then it's because you are a scammer. why jagex hasn't started something like this already is beyond me. releasing this announcement would eliminate ALL scamming immediately. mods, pass this by in your uber mod forums :P and to stop stupid posts, no i was not scammed, yes this would work, and post only to discuss - not to reject the entire idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falco513 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 it would take too long for Jagex to carry out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsuro0 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 how so? they review the reports as usual, click a mute button, click a black mark button, and then lock the account until some1 finds time to clear the scammers bank - whether that takes 1 minute or 1 year. the time it would take is irrelevant and only another set back to the scammer b/c his account is locked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyrelex Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 To be honest I dont think Jagex really reviews the reports that thoroughly considering all the stories ive heard of unjustified bannings. The thing about delivering the entire bank to the victim would be too difficult to do, where would you put all the items if the victims bank is too full to fit everything, and if it is a mistake which Jagex is notorious for what would happen to the guy that just lost everything since they have a policy of not returning items. Btw, i am not a scammer, i just dont think this will work. Check out my Pocket Slot idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsuro0 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 they make mistakes with bannings and stuff, but not with scamming. you have to be extremely stupid not to recognize a scam with a 60 second report. if there are too many items or if p2p items are going to a f2p'er, then they would just get deleted. and of course, there would be appeals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 they review the reports as usual, Thats the problem. They dont review it. This aint going to happen. "The cry of the poor is not always just, but if you never hear it you'll never know what justice is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katsuro0 Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 they do review them. even if one scammer is caught, it would make a difference. besides, during the first week, they could put all their effort into enforcing it to spread a message and then concentrate on the game while trying to catch as many as possible like they do now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sligo Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 My thought on this is it would be too easy to scam Jagex. Already, we have people who commit "entrapment" where they lead other players into breaking the rules then report those players, when they themselves are truly at fault. If the actions you described were to take place, then the scammer would end up with the victim's stuff. I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but, I am not sure you realize tht what you heard is not what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyrelex Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 they make mistakes with bannings and stuff, but not with scamming. What do you think they do to scammers...they ban them. and of course, there would be appeals. Many appeals go unanswered or answered by an automated message. Check out my Pocket Slot idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfilc23 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 It takes two to scam: the scammer and the scammed Personally, I don't think Jagex should do any more than they already do. I've played this game for 4+ years and have never been scammed. Why not? Because I don't let myself be taken advantage of. I'm not saying it hasn't been attempted on me, I just don't fall for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaki_Sanake Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 This idea is stupid, you're an idiot, I'm not a scammer, and a zero tolerance policy wouldn't help because I've seen a lot of people wrongfully reported. I'm back?! No wayz!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviduhlich Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Remember that, if you get scammed, it's partly your fault for not checking the 2nd trade screen, or whatever you did that got you scammed. I would agree that the scammer should lose their items, since possibly most of them were obtained through scamming. But the victim doesn't deserve to receive the items in there, just because he fell for a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaidinWoT Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 If an abuse report is sent into jagex, and if they review it and determine that a scam did take place, then the scammer would get muted for one month No matter how little time it would take to do so, they would have to program in the ability to mute someone for a month. Currently a person can be muted for 48 hours. They would have to program in an extended time limit, which, as I said, no matter if it takes a minute or a week, still takes time. have his entire bank delivered to the victum (the account would be locked until a jagex mod finds time to deliver it) I'll address this later... and automatically recieve 2 black marks. Nothing special here, except that it's one more black mark than usual... it doesn't matter if it was a 1k or 100mil scam. A scam is always a scam, but I'll poke a hole in this further down... if you think this is too harse, then it's because you are a scammer. Blah blah blah... why jagex hasn't started something like this already is beyond me. releasing this announcement would eliminate ALL scamming immediately. Scammers will always exist. Always. People will happily but their accounts on the line on the off chance that someone will hand them a jackpot. As to why JAGeX hasn't started something like this, maybe because they have bigger things to do... mods, pass this by in your uber mod forums :P Uber mod forums? and to stop stupid posts, no i was not scammed, yes this would work, and post only to discuss - not to reject the entire idea. It would NOT work, and here's why: 1. Mute for a month - JAGeX's stance on muting is not one of punishment, believe it or not. A mute is used to protect others, not to punish the person being muted. That's all I have to say here... 2. Two Blackmarks - JAGeX's blackmark system is fine how it is, giving out sufficient blackmarks for the offence, instead of putting a generic amount per broken rule. 3. Giving the scammer's bank to the victim - Okay, here's where I have a HUGE problem with all of this. You stated that all punishments would apply no matter how large the scam? Yay! Off to world 2 we go! Let's hunt out someone to do a minor scam on us, maybe lose a bit to them as they take 999k off of their 1000k offer, or something of the such. Okay, now open the Report Abuse page, type in their name. It's good as gold! We've been scammed, and now the scammer's entire bank will be given to us in return. In a sense, people would be scamming scammers, in which case they would have to be punished, except that there would be no solid proof they planned it beforehand. A perfect con to trick the conmen, keep RuneScape free of scammers, and make a tidy profit off it, however unfairly. My vote: NO Add your blog to the BlogScape Index!SaidinWoT can now be tracked easily on weekends - Erm, maybe when I start playing again.Levels do not measure intelligence OR maturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_Gaara Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 People could pretend to borrow cash from a friend; report them for item scamming and take their bank. I think that the subject to an item scam will have to learn to pay attention more carefully, and not be rewarded for getting scammed. Legendary F2P Skiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacarnaya Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Although it is a nice idea, I think that alot of abuse and misunderstanding could occur. And as everyone else said, there will always be scammers. If you kill someone you usually get the death sentence, but as we all know many many people still do it. :( Live, love, eat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brave Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 A bad idea There will always be scammers so long as there are people idiotic enough to fall for the scams. This idea would only add one more way to scam people. In fact it would be the perfect scam. A scammer could give his victim something free and then report them for scamming on the pretence that the item was not paid for. The scammer would then get all the victims bank and the poor person scammed would no way of getting his items back after an appeal (even if that were possible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimodz Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 The scammed should not get any items back. But it'd be possible to just 'cancel' the scammer's bank a/c (destroy all items) [Admin Edit: Innapropriate Text in sig removed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 YEah I agree. Scammers = scum. Why would timing matter? If they are scammers, it doesn't matter if they have to wait AAAAGES to get their character back. Good on ya mate. The Evil Scientist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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