I know what you mean. There's a topic about how we don't use the metric system, there's a topic about how our government is run by a bunch of lunatics, and now there's this. When are you people going to stop? Our language? C'mon, it's starting to sound like some people are just desperate to bash America...

 

 

 

And two of those three threads were made by americans, and the third by a guy from australia - a country where AFAIK the imperial system is still in the process of phasing out?

 

 

 

I'm not going to claim there's not a lot of people on these forums who has knee-jerk "Must bash country!" reaction everytime someone says "America!". But I'd like to point out that most of the time, "America!" is a cy originating from an american, who wants to discuss a subject close to his her heart. Which is fine by me.

 

 

 

This is an international forum. Make less threads that start of talking about american things, see less bashing. I'd say it's that simple.

 

I know what you mean. There's a topic about how we don't use the metric system, there's a topic about how our government is run by a bunch of lunatics, and now there's this. When are you people going to stop? Our language? C'mon, it's starting to sound like some people are just desperate to bash America...

 

 

 

And two of those three threads were made by americans, and the third by a guy from australia - a country where AFAIK the imperial system is still in the process of phasing out?

 

 

 

I'm not going to claim there's not a lot of people on these forums who has knee-jerk "Must bash country!" reaction everytime someone says "America!". But I'd like to point out that most of the time, "America!" is a cy originating from an american, who wants to discuss a subject close to his her heart. Which is fine by me.

 

 

 

This is an international forum. Make less threads that start of talking about american things, see less bashing. I'd say it's that simple.

 

 

 

yh that would work

 

I know what you mean. There's a topic about how we don't use the metric system, there's a topic about how our government is run by a bunch of lunatics, and now there's this. When are you people going to stop? Our language? C'mon, it's starting to sound like some people are just desperate to bash America...

 

 

 

And two of those three threads were made by americans, and the third by a guy from australia - a country where AFAIK the imperial system is still in the process of phasing out?

 

 

 

I'm not going to claim there's not a lot of people on these forums who has knee-jerk "Must bash country!" reaction everytime someone says "America!". But I'd like to point out that most of the time, "America!" is a cy originating from an american, who wants to discuss a subject close to his her heart. Which is fine by me.

 

 

 

This is an international forum. Make less threads that start of talking about american things, see less bashing. I'd say it's that simple.

 

 

 

You see, the problem with that is: If you want to start a thread about something in America, you should be able to do so without having to worry that some guy from another country will insult you, or your country(if you happen to be an American). It's just not fair that we should have to sit and wonder if someone is going to bash us or not just because we want to make a thread and discuss something. We SHOULD be able to make as many threads as we want, concerning American things, without worrying about someone insulting us. End of story.

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We SHOULD be able to make as many threads as we want, concerning American things, without worrying about someone insulting us. End of story.

 

 

 

and we're back to where I said

 

 

 

Just do not drag stereotypic insults and hurtful assaults in it

 

 

 

Please behave guys (you know who you are) or I might have to take out my prune stick.

 

You see, the problem with that is: If you want to start a thread about something in America, you should be able to do so without having to worry that some guy from another country will insult you, or your country(if you happen to be an American). It's just not fair that we should have to sit and wonder if someone is going to bash us or not just because we want to make a thread and discuss something. We SHOULD be able to make as many threads as we want, concerning American things, without worrying about someone insulting us. End of story.

 

 

 

And where's the line between insult and differing opinions? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for having the prejudices crap sprouted by some of the kiddies removed - just as Sunli says - but I don't agree with No_OnE's definitions of what is just mindless bashing and what's opinions actually based on something. The thread about the US government was, after all, made by a guy living there.

Live and let live, people.

 

 

 

Oh the irony. Asking people to live and let live regarding america...

Oy, I said modern English, not middle English ;)

wow, amerfatica (as i call it) gets fatter and fatter every day i hear people eating it... like megamac...people making new bigger burgers every day man.

 

 

 

I laughed for a full 60 seconds upon reading this.

 

 

 

Anyway, vulgar Latin, proper Latin, French, English, whatever ...

 

 

 

They all have a common root. Babylonian of course.

 

 

 

That was not needed. Why do people enjoy bashing every American thing there is, up to its language?

 

I know what you mean. There's a topic about how we don't use the metric system, there's a topic about how our government is run by a bunch of lunatics, and now there's this. When are you people going to stop? Our language? C'mon, it's starting to sound like some people are just desperate to bash America...

 

 

 

Nah, but see I'm partially responsible for creating this thread (I was the one who messaged Sunli after he pulled these posts out of the other thread) and I'm from America. I enjoy bashing Americans just as much as everyone else. And our government -is- made up of lunatics, and the standard measurement system -is- less efficient than metric, and really we are fat pompous bastards ...

wow, amerfatica (as i call it) gets fatter and fatter every day i hear people eating it... like megamac...people making new bigger burgers every day man.

 

 

 

I laughed for a full 60 seconds upon reading this.

 

 

 

Anyway, vulgar Latin, proper Latin, French, English, whatever ...

 

 

 

They all have a common root. Babylonian of course.

 

 

 

That was not needed. Why do people enjoy bashing every American thing there is, up to its language?

 

I know what you mean. There's a topic about how we don't use the metric system, there's a topic about how our government is run by a bunch of lunatics, and now there's this. When are you people going to stop? Our language? C'mon, it's starting to sound like some people are just desperate to bash America...

 

 

 

Nah, but see I'm partially responsible for creating this thread (I was the one who messaged Sunli after he pulled these posts out of the other thread) and I'm from America. I enjoy bashing Americans just as much as everyone else. And our government -is- made up of lunatics, and the standard measurement system -is- less efficient than metric, and really we are fat pompous silly persons ...

 

The customory system is just fine. It's really not hard to memorize 12in = 1ft and 5,280ft = 1mi. So what if the intervals aren't right on a tenth? Our government is run by lunatics to some people and to others, our government is run by intelligent people. Not all of us our obese, many are but not all. There is no point in bashing Americans and if you find that it's fun, then your not very intelligent...

Let's just say the US is the land of extremes; NY is probably the city with the most healthy people in the world, but Houston is most likely the world's fattest city.

 

And as for the two fronts in politics; that's everywhere where there's a 2 (or 3 or 4) party system people, it's obvious half of the Americans think Bush is a complete ignoramus (I love that word) yet for many others he's a 'blessing'.

Topic has been cleaned.

 

 

 

Sunli and I discussed this split, so I know that she has attempted to continue a thoughtful debate when we could have just eliminated it as so much spam.

 

 

 

The lyrics to 'Let's Call The Whole Thing Off' were referenced in our discussion, and that is the basis for the 'you say tomato, I say tomatoe' in the title.

 

 

 

See http://www.infectiouslyrics.com/index.php?p=home&id=000000004618 for the lyrics.

 

 

 

First of all, English varies widely by dialect. Go from one coast to the other, North to South, in the U.S. and you will find that Americans will use different words for the same thing. For example, carbonated soft drinks are called 'coke' in the Deep South, 'pop' in the Midwest and much of the West and Pacific Northwest, and soda in some other parts, most notably New England and New York, although it might be a different version called 'seltzer'. Notice that outside of the U.S., it may be called a 'fizzy drink'.

 

 

 

If you ask a series of precise questions, you can determine the region of where someone lives in the U.S. I would wager that this can be extended to Oxford English in other English-speaking countries. Australia, for example, has a distant English dialect that is derived from an old Cockney dialect spoken by the original penal colonists, that is virtually extinct elsewhere. It also varies slightly from region to region.

 

 

 

I am an American. I believe that the metric system will become more and more dominant if the globalization of the world economy continues. We already use metric in many applications-- Americans already drive foreign cars with metric standard parts built in Tennessee and other factories in the Deep South (as production has been moved in many cases to the U.S.)

 

I speak Spanish fairly well, so I am not ignorant of those who speak secondary and teriary languages and so forth. However, I will note that Spanish has so many regional and dialectical differences that I can find many different words for the same thing if I research it. Oddly enough, I have met so many different Spanish speakers from various areas that somebody told me once that my dialect was curious because it shifted between so many different ones-- although I usually speak Spanish

 

with a Mexican accent faded by an American English one.

 

 

 

Oxford English makes more sense to me in certain instances. A word like 'petrol' means exactly that-- petroleum oil, and petroleum fuel. We must say 'natural gas' over here if we wish to refer to butane, propane, and other such gases used for fuel.

 

 

 

The stereotypes that Americans are obese and lazy are hurtful. Yes, I am obese, but there were some things that made it easier to get there. Prescription medications messed up my metabolism. Years of depression fueled emotional eating. I am poor, and it is a lot of work to avoid the onslaught of heavily processed foods that are cheap, accessible, and easy to make. Even with heavy subsidy of the agricultural industry, raw foods can be outside my budget.

 

 

 

Excuses? Yes! Am I to blame? Yes! But to polarize an argument to these extremes is to deny a full understanding of the problem. Can I lose weight? Yes, I have, but like so many it came back, particularly when my health declined again. I do not have to pull out my medical sheet to justify myself to you, and I can return to improved health when I am ready and able to do so.

 

 

 

The 'ugly American' stereotype is very tiresome, and my patience and willingness to socialize with someone from the UK, Australia or elsewhere who accuses me and my nation of bastardizing English or being an ignorant prat devoid of intellectual refinement and civility tends to drop very quickly. If you wish me to admire you and your culture, stop stooping to criticize mine with such blatant derision.

 

 

 

You do not know me nor my participation in various cultures.

 

 

 

"Let's call the whole thing off!"

The 'ugly American' stereotype is very tiresome, and my patience and willingness to socialize with someone from the UK, Australia or elsewhere who accuses me and my nation of bastardizing English or being an ignorant prat devoid of intellectual refinement and civility tends to drop very quickly. If you wish me to admire you and your culture, stop stooping to criticize mine with such blatant derision.

 

 

 

You do not know me nor my participation in various cultures.

 

Just remember this works both ways. :wink:

Wow, never seena topic where mods are so active in the discussion (not cleaning it, but giving opinons). What does it matter the dialect? If someone from Britain comes to America will you not be able to understand him? Let people talk the way they want to talk. I say tomato, I dont say "y'all", ect. doesnt mean I dont speak some form of English. I dont see how people can bash languages.

i find it funny how english people cant say "jessica". it comes out as jessicurr

i find it funny how english people cant say "jessica". it comes out as jessicurr

 

I haven't noticed that. I've heard that in southerners though.

i find it funny how english people cant say "jessica". it comes out as jessicurr

 

Heh, that might be true for the Southern Fairies but not us oop North.

This argument will always exist. It's a bit like when your parents say the 70's were fashionable...

i say tomate. now what?!

i say tomate. now what?!

 

 

 

You neeb!

 

 

 

I say tomat :o

The Americans have messed up the English language, they then mock the way we speak it. Typical American fashion?

i say tomate. now what?!

 

 

 

Hey this is America, speak Spanish!

The Americans have messed up the English language, they then mock the way we speak it. Typical American fashion?

 

 

 

No, the english language has evolved in the hands of the Americans. Just as it has over here.

 

 

 

Just because it's different doesn't make it messed up 8-)

Wow, never seena topic where mods are so active in the discussion (not cleaning it, but giving opinons).

 

 

 

Look again at my post-- and this is clean #2.

 

 

 

This shouldn't be too much a problem as long as the subject remains on dialect differences, or the irony in the 'you talk funny', because everyone knows, everyone *else* (from out of the area) talks funny, but...

 

 

 

Please refrain from insults.