My problem with Ahrim's and Karil's armor

[fires_scape]

Why does Ahrim's and Karil's armor have to have 70 defence requirenment, that's freaking crazy. :wall: Rangers and mages don't really gain defence levels as fast as the melees. I completely understand having 70 def req on the melee barrows but not on the mages and rangers. Jagex should atleast drop it down to 60. Oh and Karil's special is the worst special there is. How useful is having your opponents agility lowered? Maybe they will regain a bit less energy, but that it. They should atleast make it so that is slows down the opponent or takes away their energy.

[Raven6666]

karils and torags go hand in hand while in the wildy, but the effects are of no use as there is the 20 second(or 10 in some cases) hold from ice barrage

 

 

 

 

 

i would also believe that this topic would belong in rants

[Matok]

 

i would also believe that this topic would belong in rants

 

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[gspbeetle]

Why does Ahrim's and Karil's armor have to have 70 defence requirenment, that's freaking crazy. :wall: Rangers and mages don't really gain defence levels as fast as the melees. I completely understand having 70 def req on the melee barrows but not on the mages and rangers. Jagex should atleast drop it down to 60. Oh and Karil's special is the worst special there is. How useful is having your opponents agility lowered? Maybe they will regain a bit less energy, but that it. They should atleast make it so that is slows down the opponent or takes away their energy.

 

i dont see a problem here, barrows are mean to be 70defence amour, it is like asking why ahrim staff need 70 attack

[Raven6666]

i dont see a problem here, barrows are mean to be 70defence amour, it is like asking why ahrim staff need 70 attack

 

 

 

because staves double as a melee weapon? :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

and barrows are superior forms of armour, you wouldnt go with blue mage robes if you were to pk with 90+ mage unless you really wanted to lose the things you are carrying

[B_50_2]

Karils has awesome defence.

 

 

 

And why would a 1 def pure want to wear karils? It's a 70 defence requirment for a reason.

[Scotteh]

How many actual, true rangers/mages are there though? Hardly any... By true I mean only have Ranging/mage + defence on a main account.

[Sy_Accursed]

They all need a def leve as def is not specific to any set attack type

 

 

 

hence it is a general requirement for the armour

 

 

 

The weapins then have the set specific requirements

[Dragondan_Ro]

i only agree that karils is a bad special and have low defense 70 defense requirement is to high for its low defense also ahrim should have same defenses as rune armour (withouth shield) and karil have a bit more than black d hide

[cyclonetwist]

ahrims and karils has 70 defence becuase jagex are trying to cut down on pures, it unbalances the game they say so there has been alot of things now that are anti-pure.

[bladeswin]

agree with above poster

 

i h8 all pures except my friends, cuz he gives me stuff...

 

Off Topic: W00t! 100 posts!

[meb]

I'd love to see a lvl 70 pure with 82 magic and strength in full Ahrims -.- . Imo the defence reqs are needed, and to teh guy that wanst Ahrims to have teh same stats as rune armour: Why give mages armour that gives a +100 mage bonus the same stats as rune armour???? Rune armour has a huge mage penalty and you want rune armour with a huge mage bonus? =; No way.

 

 

 

Oh and the Krils spec is bad it should be changed.

[bflitny1]

If the defence requirement was lowered, that would mean they have to lower the defence stats...is that what you want?

[Huzzah]

I'm fine with the level 70 reqs. They really need to re-vamp Karils though. The defence stats are less then black dhide and the special is even worse.

[farcry2]

im testing my avatar

 

 

 

i think that is so that peoples combat arent lvl 50 in that armour

[Freshwacka]

Karils has awesome defence.

 

 

 

And why would a 1 def pure want to wear karils? It's a 70 defence requirment for a reason.

 

 

 

 

 

Pure should be happy enough that the karils crossbow doesn't require 70 attack

[Beest1942]

IMO:

 

They should keep the reqs. The reqs for the armour are basic for Barrows, all of them have to be 70... Thats because Barrows armour is the best there is (might be dragon, but thats way too expensive).

 

All of the armour has 70 def req, and thats for a reason.

 

 

 

They however should change the Karils set effect. To lower someone's agility is only usefull at the wildy agility course, so your target cant search for cover at the agility course. But the people who want to raise their agility there, dont really have anything with them (except for food/agi pots)... So it still is pretty useless..

[red_hydra]

How many actual, true rangers/mages are there though? Hardly any... By true I mean only have Ranging/mage + defence on a main account.

 

 

 

Well you have to have some attk and str lvls to quicken the def training :roll:

 

 

 

I dont agree with the 70 def requirment being crazy but i do agree that karils was a big dissappointment... since its the same range bonus as black dhide. Ahrims is better than infinity tho and torag, guthans, dharok, and verac are all better than dragon. I guess after rangers had their period of dominance jagex decided to bring them back down