jimbobjoe Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 A 15-year-old boy's life was saved when his brother and nearby bystanders took quick action after a shark bit off his right leg at a Western Australian beach. Zak Golebiowski, of Mt Gambier, was surfing with his 18-year-old brother 40 metres off Wharton Beach, 70km east of Esperance, at 7.40am (WST) when a five metre white pointer attacked him. Zak's right leg was bitten off by the huge shark, which also mauled and punctured his other leg, leaving it severely lacerated. But the quick-thinking actions of a New Zealand couple, his brother and a surfing mate saved his life, Esperance Police Constable Katrina Luke said. "If it wasn't for the efforts of his brother, friend and the New Zealand couple, he wouldn't be alive,'' Constable Luke said. "He is now in a serious but stable condition.'' They are now hunting down the shark and are going to kill it. Do you think it deserves to die? It's the boys fault for swimming in their territory, killing it is just stupid. I agreed, you can't really train something to not attack its food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam007 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I just don't even see why the topic of this thread even became "should the shark live or die?" That was the original topic afterall They are now hunting down the shark and are going to kill it. Do you think it deserves to die? I know that, but it just seemed like a weird segway from the original article. Isn't it obvious the shark in no way deserves to die from acting on instinct? While there are other questions that you can come up with from this, I just think the answer's obvious to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abyssalwhip Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Just like the cabbage after Steve Irwin's death. There's no reason to kill that shark. He didn't know it. -.- I feel sorry for the boy, but he took the risk so he could know it.'nuff said... least the shark got a snack sharks wouldent normally go after a human but they have very bad sight and think its a fish so thats why they do it... they dont really have any intention of killing people Your name is "bet you fail", and you're starting a business with your mom? I'm not even going to touch that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzztif Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Even if they do go after the shark the chances of finding the right shark is pretty slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hey, maybe the shark will taste good? Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apinagez Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hey, maybe the shark will taste good? Hmmm.. Steak. ^The most disturbing signature on Tip.it^Last.fm|HELLY KAYLA!|Oh the mehagurtz!|#Siencemakers"they care less about their spelling mistakes then I." - Lionheart"apinagez... let me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemathonical Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Why kill the shark? The shark had to eat something to survive. Its like killing some guy for killing a cow to eat. ^Sir Jem 05-The Bunny Drinking Blog?^ Click it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemama Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Many of you are familiar with the "Jaws" movie series (though it seriously went downhill after the first one, lol). What you may not know is that it was based on a true series of real events nearly a hundred years ago, that resulted in over 10 deaths (I think 16? Not sure.) Back around the turn of the 20th century, a great white shark kept attacking New Jersey beachgoers *very* close to shore. This was in the days before surfing, and in fact when many people didn't swim at all and only went to the shore to "paddle" and get relief from the summer heat. A shark's normal hunting grounds are much further out. At that time medical knowledge was of course in its infancy, so anyone with a limb nearly severed rapidly bled to death despite being "rescued". I believe only one or two victims survived. Documented in the newspaper accounts at the time, the shark ping-ponged along the Jersey shore for a few weeks, but each time the victim's body was recovered along with missing parts - so the shark was not feeding, and getting hungrier all the time. It finally turned in to the harbor between New Jersey and New York and swam up a deep fresh/brackish water stream (unheard-of for a shark) and killed 3 more at a swimming hole on the stream. One dead teen's severed foot and ankle was not found. Someone in New York put up a reward for killing the shark, and many set out to try their luck. The prize winners caught it in the harbor. It was not as huge as had been described by hysterical witnesses (it was no bigger than the one described above), so there were many doubts whether they'd found the right one. The identity of the shark was confirmed when they found inside its stomach ... the foot and ankle of a human adolescent. No further attacks occurred. Experts agree that the behavior of this shark was completely abnormal: hunting so close to shore, not feeding, but *especially* the part where it swam up a stream - sharks do not tolerate even brackish water (a mix of fresh and salt). They speculate that it had some type of physical illness (not unlike whales that beach themselves for no reason - except whales don't usually eat people, ahem.) The shark was a menace to itself and society (kind of like the vicious dog that attacks people over and over - the USA has a system that evaluates such dogs and is empowered to sentence them to death. An animal that's been domesticated for thousands of years isn't bred to have the urge to rip people to pieces. Of course a shark is not a dog.) The point is that this shark was ill, starving to death and killing people in the process. Finally, in Miami, Florida, every year they have a shark fishing competition to see who can catch a sizeable shark closest to shore. In all the years they'd done that (whenever it was that I read the story), they'd never caught one more than 6 feet long within a mile of land. On the US East Coast (which has an underwater continental shelf), it's just not NORMAL for a shark to be so close to shore, and it indicates there is something really WRONG with it. Is it kinder to leave it to die a slow and lingering death? it's a lot easier to get over yourself when you look at intelligence the same way you look at beauty, or height, or eye color: being smart is easy, but being good is hard ... being smart is handed to you, being good is handed to *nobody*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biabf Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I don't really care if the shark get's killed or not.Yep, it's ONE shark. Not a whole species... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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