Randox Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 mroe of a time is moving at a different speed for him than you. It's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Quick response - Vickie stuns TIF with another ignorant post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 no. to me, time is linnear. i base this one one fact: biology dosent travel through time. your born, you live, and you die. Viktorkrum77 wrote: Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Quick response - Vickie stuns TIF with another ignorant post! why is this ignorant?, its true. you can only ever exist in the present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Google90 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Or what if you could fly along with the sun, at the point where it sets, just keep going west, at the same speed :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 heres a question, what do you suppose your watch would do if you 'travel through time'? - it stays the same. heres a simple example. i live in the state of queensland in australia, we have 'daylight savings' which, incase you dont know, is where we set our clocks back an hour, for some stupid reason (dont worry, it dosent actually prevent the sun from setting for an hour :lol: ). recently, i went on a holiday over the border, into the state of new south wales, where they dont have daylight savings. did my watch change time? no, but hey, arent i going foreward in time?, arent i participating in time travel?, well not really. time is subjective, i decided to keep my watch set in queensland time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilperson Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Time zones are man thought of ideas. So no, it is impossible. Everybody lovin' it, but ain't no body touchin' it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 no. to me, time is linnear. i base this one one fact: biology dosent travel through time. your born, you live, and you die. Viktorkrum77 wrote: Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Quick response - Vickie stuns TIF with another ignorant post! why is this ignorant?, its true. you can only ever exist in the present. It's ignorant because he is playing a game of linguistics and avoiding the real issue. If you move .02 seconds into the future - it is inescapable that you have done so. Sure, you are still in the present because linguistically that's what you call it, but you have still traveled .02 seconds ahead of time. It is absolutely ridiculous to play a game of linguistics with the words "present" and "future" in this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nik Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Once you reach a certain speed you become different than more normal matter, this is the stuff that Einstien came up with, I belive there are different levels called Gamma levels, in which, the higher the gamma level, the weirder things get. I don't know about time travel related to that, but it seems that if you got closer to the speed of light, you may acually be traveling so fast, thus making the gamma level get higher, and somehow warping the space-time continum. Things get weird when you get closer and closer to the speed of light. I don't know for sure though, no one really does. I havn't heard about the people getting .2 seconds into the future, but I see how that is possible. Also take into consideration.. as the wikipedia article says... he was in orbit 748 days.. So that hardly is something that is realistic on an everyday basis. Also remember, its impossible to travel the speed of light (or so we know now) Einstien proved that :). something else I found interesting on that wikipedia Article Time dilation is permitted by Albert Einstein's special theory of relativity. These theories state that, relative to a stationary observer, time appears to pass more slowly for faster-moving bodies, or bodies that are within a deep gravity well. [18] For example, a moving clock will appear to run slow; as a clock approaches the speed of light it will appear to slow to a stop. This has given rise to the popular twin paradox. General relativity states that a similar effect would occur if the clock were to be close to a black hole. What I was saying, apparently is somewhat true. \ C'YEA H0'KAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 no. to me, time is linnear. i base this one one fact: biology dosent travel through time. your born, you live, and you die. Viktorkrum77 wrote: Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Quick response - Vickie stuns TIF with another ignorant post! why is this ignorant?, its true. you can only ever exist in the present. It's ignorant because he is playing a game of linguistics and avoiding the real issue. If you move .02 seconds into the future - it is inescapable that you have done so. Sure, you are still in the present because linguistically that's what you call it, but you have still traveled .02 seconds ahead of time. It is absolutely ridiculous to play a game of linguistics with the words "present" and "future" in this topic. If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. All you did was prove exactly what I'm saying - you're playing a game of linguistics. Yes - the word is present, but you have still moved through time faster than normal. Quit playing a word game when we're having a serious discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. All you did was prove exactly what I'm saying - you're playing a game of linguistics. Yes - the word is present, but you have still moved through time faster than normal. Quit playing a word game when we're having a serious discussion. I'm supporting my side. You may have moved faster than everyone else, but is that really possible? Because a single person can't be in the future without the whole of time being in the future, which is therefore the present. One person can't be in the future, and everyone else in the past. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. All you did was prove exactly what I'm saying - you're playing a game of linguistics. Yes - the word is present, but you have still moved through time faster than normal. Quit playing a word game when we're having a serious discussion. I'm supporting my side. You may have moved faster than everyone else, but is that really possible? Because a single person can't be in the future without the whole of time being in the future. Maybe you'd know the answer of that question if you actually watched the documentary that has been referenced and read about it - instead of just playing a word game about the linguistics of the words "present" and "future." That would be a novel idea! Actually research what you're talking about! You've never tried that before! You might learn something new - something crazy - like - that the President doesn't have veto power over the Supreme Court! What do you think about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnip Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. All you did was prove exactly what I'm saying - you're playing a game of linguistics. Yes - the word is present, but you have still moved through time faster than normal. Quit playing a word game when we're having a serious discussion. I'm supporting my side. You may have moved faster than everyone else, but is that really possible? Because a single person can't be in the future without the whole of time being in the future, which is therefore the present. One person can't be in the future, and everyone else in the past. Of course someone can, it's all relative. To one person, the guy .02 ahead is in the future while he/she is in the present, while to the other he's in the present with everyone in the past. Looking at it objectively, one is in the future while the other is in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. All you did was prove exactly what I'm saying - you're playing a game of linguistics. Yes - the word is present, but you have still moved through time faster than normal. Quit playing a word game when we're having a serious discussion. I'm supporting my side. You may have moved faster than everyone else, but is that really possible? Because a single person can't be in the future without the whole of time being in the future. Maybe you'd know the answer of that question if you actually watched the documentary that has been referenced and read about it - instead of just playing a word game about the linguistics of the words "present" and "future." That would be a novel idea! Actually research what you're talking about! You've never tried that before! You might learn something new - something crazy - like - that the President doesn't have veto power over the Supreme Court! What do you think about that? I research and read alot thank you very much. My knowledge compared to that of my peers is much higher. But unlike you, I am not over confident and think I am better than everyone else around me. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostRanger Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I research and read alot thank you very much. My knowledge compared to that of my peers is much higher. But unlike you, I am not over confident and think I am better than everyone else around me. I don't think I know more than everyone else around me - just you. You've proven time after time again you are completely ignorant about almost everything you try to debate about, and this issue seems not different. If you'll notice - I don't know much about this time travel thing, so I asked questions. You, on the other hand, have made up your own theory (which has nothing to do with actual time travel, just a little word game your playing) - and instead of actually researching the physics behind it, you ignore what everyone says and post your ill-informed opinion like it's fact. It's not my fault that this isn't a one time occurrence for you but an often-repeated situation that you get found in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 warri0r45 wrote: no. to me, time is linnear. i base this one one fact: biology dosent travel through time. your born, you live, and you die. Viktorkrum77 wrote: Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Quick response - Vickie stuns TIF with another ignorant post! why is this ignorant?, its true. you can only ever exist in the present. It's ignorant because he is playing a game of linguistics and avoiding the real issue. If you move .02 seconds into the future - it is inescapable that you have done so. Sure, you are still in the present because linguistically that's what you call it, but you have still traveled .02 seconds ahead of time. It is absolutely ridiculous to play a game of linguistics with the words "present" and "future" in this topic. understood, but this isnt a game of lnguistics, this is a dscussion as to weather or not time travel is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 no. to me, time is linnear. i base this one one fact: biology dosent travel through time. your born, you live, and you die. Viktorkrum77 wrote: Quick answer- time travel isn't possible. The future is the unknown, since it's yet to happen. And the past has already happened, it's gone. We live in a present world. Quick response - Vickie stuns TIF with another ignorant post! why is this ignorant?, its true. you can only ever exist in the present. It's ignorant because he is playing a game of linguistics and avoiding the real issue. If you move .02 seconds into the future - it is inescapable that you have done so. Sure, you are still in the present because linguistically that's what you call it, but you have still traveled .02 seconds ahead of time. It is absolutely ridiculous to play a game of linguistics with the words "present" and "future" in this topic. If you moved .02 seconds into the future, than you are no longer in the future, you are in the present. It's impossible to exist in the past nor the future. Because it's the present once, and if, you get there. At least the present to you, and the present to everyone around you. So it is not possible, because it becomes the present automatically. And I'd really like if you would stop insulting my opinions with lame attempts to insult me because you feel supreme over me. Just playing along with your word game here a bit: Lets say that, somehow, man finds out a way to send someone to the "future". He fully retains the knowledge of his time (lets say, for fun, it is the year 2100). When he is sent into the future it is the year 2500. He somehow finds out from someone the year, and then thinks back and knows he was in the year 2100. He would, than, be in the "future" from where he was at. What was going around him at the time would be the "present", yes, but he is still in the future relative to where he was before. The bigest thing is he has not aged at all. Normaly we are stuck in the present. For example, going through day by day through the year 2006-2007 wouldn't be going to the future. Your living out life in the present because you are aging along with it. If you go by an entire year you age a year. In the case of time travel, however, you don't age at all. If you go from the year 2100-2500 without ageing 400 years than that is time travel. At any rate, however, all you are doing is playing a word game. Your also stating the obvious. Yes, it will be the "present" because we do always live around the present. However, you need to think what it is in relation to everything else. For example, even if we look at say.. the year 2010 we would say that is in the future, right. If someone somehow went from the year 2006-2010 through time travel without aging, they have gone to the future. That was the future to them then, and now they are in it and it becomes their present. It doesn't, however, change the fact that it was the future he was going to. He wasn't going from "present time to present time" because if time worked like that than time would be still. There has to be a past, present and future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipyhop00 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 theres time dialation which means that if your going faster than someone else then time passes as diffrent rates but appears to go the same for the person travelling. equation is: T2 = T1 / {1 - [(v * v) / (C * C)]} T2 = apparant time passed during journey T1 = the time of journey origonally v = velocity C = speed of light So you cant go back in time from when you start but you do slow time which is like going back intime for the person not moving. This is albert einstins work and i have no idea how he ever came up with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightLite Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 There was a thread about this just a while ago, it was about a BBC document on time travel. I can't find it right now, but you can read about it here. Time travel is, and probably will be, possible in to the future. It already happens in small scale when astronauts reach stunning speeds, though they only go about 0.1 seconds in the future. It will be never possible to go back in time though, i.e. the time before the 'time machine' was built for example. How can they be 0.1 seconds in the future? Even if they were traveling 5 times the speed of light, the reality is, they are still in the same time frame we are. No, they're not. If you watched the document, you would see how that's not the case. It's not even complicated. I also kindly listed a source where you can read it. Actually, sorry the link was broken. Here's the correct link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel Scroll down to "small travel". A russian astronaut has already gone 0.02 seconds in to the future, though unintentionally. If he is traveling at such a speed.. He is still in the same time that we are, but our eyes don't see him until he has already passed. There is a difference - Only character in Runescape History maxed out in RSC and RS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterdez Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Time travel is possible. But on your pont about travelling through differnt time zones, TIME itself is a personal concept, not a universal concept. No 2 clocks can ever be alike. Timezones are merely a way to make midday and midnight at different points on the earth appear at 12 and 24 hours. Proper TIME travel, travelling forward, and backward(Which isnt really possible) is happening all the time. We are moving through time right now? But it is known, in areas of high gravity and speed, time travels slower. The international space station has to have a time check every month, because the gravity is lower up there, so time travels slower, so they have to recify their on board clock. Black holes are the key to time travel, a point of infinite density, or a wormhole which can make us travel a distance X in 0 time. So for an example, if we, from the earth saw a star 100 light years away, we would be seeing what happened 100 years ago from our point of view. (Remember time is a personal concept) If we travelled through a wormhole to get there, we would in fact be travelling forward in time (according to ourselves) 100 years forward in time. However, according to observers standing outside the wormhole, it would take you millions of years to reach the singularity of the wormhole. And from this, you might be able to see that time travel backwards aint really possible. Founder of Fast Free Double Natures Click here to see my Goals and Achievements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLancer Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 And from this, you might be able to see that time travel backwards aint really possible. I researched the claims of your post and it's true, but it will be never possible with the stereotypical "time machine" though. It would be impossible to go to a point before it's creation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterdez Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Theoretically, time travel forwards is possible, not taking into account the fact that you would be crushed on entering a black hole. TIme travel backwards leads to all kinds of problems, what if you split up your parents before they met and made you. But its all theorys, i dont think anyone will actually time travel, and come back to tell the tale. Oh and another thing about time being a personal concept, someone could be a day ahead of you, and because time isnt universal, he would appear just the same as he was if he was at the same time as you. Founder of Fast Free Double Natures Click here to see my Goals and Achievements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipyhop00 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 They tested it and got proof but sadly einstein was dead and if your descesced you dont get a nobel prize. they got 2 atomic clocks which are extreeeemely accuraute and left one on earth and flew the other armound the earth. they compared the clocks afterwards and found a diffrence but it was in around the 1000th decimal place. to make a noticable diffrence you have to be travelling at 0.8C which is 864,000,000 kilometers per hour. its theroetically possible but not possible in our age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterdez Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 They tested it and got proof but sadly einstein was dead and if your descesced you dont get a nobel prize. they got 2 atomic clocks which are extreeeemely accuraute and left one on earth and flew the other armound the earth. they compared the clocks afterwards and found a diffrence but it was in around the 1000th decimal place. to make a noticable diffrence you have to be travelling at 0.8C which is 864,000,000 kilometers per hour. its theroetically possible but not possible in our age However, if you travel at that speed, your mass increases massively, you become incredibly dense, and under all that pressure, you die. Founder of Fast Free Double Natures Click here to see my Goals and Achievements! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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