Nadril Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 One last question you should have included; How do you feel about the quality of criticisms being posted on the forum? Criticisms play a major role in getting any better. If people never criticised, i'd never be as good as I am now. If you search for old posts of me as the author at The Gallery, you'll see what I mean. I used to use filter piles all the time but as soon as I was criticised and told to use brushes, I gave them a go. Comments are nice, criticisms are much better. QFT! I don't think I would have been near as close to where I am now in art if it were not for a lot of critism, a lot of it which was very harsh. I didn't like it back then but it did motivate me to try and get better to "prove them wrong". As far as C/C goes there are a few posters lurking around that are giving some great C/C for pixels. However, sadly, I feel that the quality of C/C for some abstracts isn't "as" good. [minus Cad's critism perhaps]. Mostly because I haven't gotten any in a while. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeBoab Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I doubt a lot of people in here remember those guys... Well not much we can do about it guess... :( you mean terley etc? terleys still here (not much though) hes about the only pixeler i thought was amazing, the rest just didnt pick my fancy (and he brought me the to forum and introduced me to pixeling ;o) mXm (everyone likes his work apparently) is a mod godslayer fell off a cliff only 3 i can remember. i wouldnt do pixel work for free or for RS cash (simply cause i dont play RS) because im really not that good at it. untill i am and im pleased with my work i dont see why i should give it to people : i believe a lot of the pixelers left BECAUSE of the cash for sig ban My photobucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terley Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 1.) Is there anyone at all left in this forum that wants to do pixel work for free? Yes I would happily make free pixel signatures, I don't pixel for any sort of profit and Im sure there are many people who would make free signatures too, I just prefer making signtures based on something really original and not the generic runescape fighting scenes or requests based on a persons character doing something pretty boring.. I gotta say I do check this forum every single day come rain or shine, so don't think I've abandoned y'all ever im jst addicted to this place.. I just can't post much work because I've got a lot of college work to do constantly and I got a deadline nxt week too :( :( But I do try to post work when I get the time to do anythin, and I do hope I post useful advice, I tend not to simply spam one liners on posts, if im going to post I make sure i've got something relevant to say. 2.) If you answered Yes to the first question, then please answer this too. What motivates you to make a pixel work for free, even though there are other forums that you can go and sell your talent? I haven't played runescape for years so even If I wanted to make some quick cash I couldn't, plus it breaks the games rules.. My main interest with pixel art atm is just sheer curiosity with the art's capabilities, it fasinates me exactly what you can achieve in such a simple program. Im constantly considering actually making some sort of game or challenge myself into doing some sort of live project.. 3.) If you are able to make other types of signature, like abstract, or vector, etc... Why don't you make some for people for free every now and then? I know Photoshop, Paintshop Pro, Flash, Fireworks, Illustrator, InDesign, Imageready inside and out, there's nothing I can't do and im flying through my digital art classes without a sweat (it isn't even a challenge) so I do know would know how to make various types of signatures, the only problem is that I prefer making things for a persific purpose, as im taking graphic design I mostly use these programs for packaging design, leaflets, posters or something with a developed meaning behind it.. abstract signatures just don't interest me, but I highly respect those who take the time to produce such quality work with abstracts.. 4.) Is there anyone in here interested in bringing back the Tip.it community Pixel signature collabs? If you guys remember, it was Aldurion's (I think) and we kinda just lost interest and everyone stopped working on it. Collaborations are always great ideas, but people must understand some people are new to pixel art, some people have done it for quite a while, some people have a persific style and some also are very flexible with what they can pixel.. Imo signatures are too small to be worked on by so many people at once so with such differences in capabilities there will be some issues if we are thinking of doing some sort of gid'ed signature.. I'd be much happier doing something similar to our large pixel grid as everyone can join in, and unlike a signature it can develop into a piece of art in itself, in comparisant to a picture that comes up at the bottom of your posts, it can represent the work of Tip.it. 5) This is for everyone, and I hope I get some answers... How do you feel about the general atmosphere of the Gallery and the Art Bazaar? Hostile? Welcoming? Boring? So and so? please post anything you feel describes your perception of it. I haven't personally been interested in the Art Bazarr because I've not had to use it so far :anxious: .. But would expect the atmosphere to be good, I haven't know Tip.it to be a hostile forum.. Usually it's been welcoming and a pretty friendly place. The Gallery is great imo, I hope im doing enough to bring some help to those who need it, which is probably the basic point of the section, I know people have been giving useful advice, along with posting some pretty decent work, there are potentially some great artists here. 6.) Again this is for everyone. How do you feel about the quality of work being posted at the forum? Oh as I said the quality is as you would expect from a runescape forum, but there are some people who are willing to learn and develop, the important thing is that people are interested in art, and not simply just making easy money, so for that im glad selling signatures is now banned as the people who really want to get better are posting here for genuine advice. I wouldn't expect people here to be excellent because the generally age group is below 15, compared to dedicated art forums were people are usually much older. ok? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawn509 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I will answer 5 and 6.... for 5: I feel the atomopshere of the gallery, is....lacking at times, I myself confess to being overly harsh and not very understanding at times with art. Sometimes peoples C/C crosses the line and becomes flames and insults, which doesnt help artists at all. I find this gallery to be very intollerent of inexperienced work, agian I admit to being very harsh to new work, and not nesscecarily helpful. For 6: I find once the market closed down, many of the amazing talents either stopped making work, or just left ths site, which saddens me. These days, the gallery is mixed with a blend of amazing talent, beginngers, and people somewhere in the middle. It is very hard to actually give the gallery and brazaar an actual quality rating because it is so diverse, but I guess I would say quality has gone down recently, and many people seem to have lost interest in the Gallery. This also saddens me because this is my favortie topic on this forum. so..thats that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazgul740 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 One last question you should have included; How do you feel about the quality of criticisms being posted on the forum? Criticisms play a major role in getting any better. If people never criticised, i'd never be as good as I am now. If you search for old posts of me as the author at The Gallery, you'll see what I mean. I used to use filter piles all the time but as soon as I was criticised and told to use brushes, I gave them a go. Comments are nice, criticisms are much better. QFT! I don't think I would have been near as close to where I am now in art if it were not for a lot of critism, a lot of it which was very harsh. I didn't like it back then but it did motivate me to try and get better to "prove them wrong". As far as C/C goes there are a few posters lurking around that are giving some great C/C for pixels. However, sadly, I feel that the quality of C/C for some abstracts isn't "as" good. [minus Cad's critism perhaps]. Mostly because I haven't gotten any in a while. :( Meh ill say the same about harsh C\C... when i started Gs simply tore my work to shreds again and again... Comments like "you know pants aren't metal poles, they have folds!" Got thrown at me time and time again :ohnoes: Still, i wish there were people who would still do that... :( New sigzor^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD666 Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I think the forum's gone soft. The competitive edge has a gone and its really effected the way pixel artists on here are progressing and how the community is progressing as a whole, and not in a good way either. I dont think many people left simply because they couldnt make money from sigs anymore, but more because it felt like they were completely unapprieciated and being thrown out in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megadedhed Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 One last question you should have included; How do you feel about the quality of criticisms being posted on the forum? Criticisms play a major role in getting any better. If people never criticised, i'd never be as good as I am now. If you search for old posts of me as the author at The Gallery, you'll see what I mean. I used to use filter piles all the time but as soon as I was criticised and told to use brushes, I gave them a go. Comments are nice, criticisms are much better. QFT! I don't think I would have been near as close to where I am now in art if it were not for a lot of critism, a lot of it which was very harsh. I didn't like it back then but it did motivate me to try and get better to "prove them wrong". As far as C/C goes there are a few posters lurking around that are giving some great C/C for pixels. However, sadly, I feel that the quality of C/C for some abstracts isn't "as" good. [minus Cad's critism perhaps]. Mostly because I haven't gotten any in a while. :( Meh ill say the same about harsh C\C... when i started Gs simply tore my work to shreds again and again... Comments like "you know pants aren't metal poles, they have folds!" Got thrown at me time and time again :ohnoes: Still, i wish there were people who would still do that... :( hehe, read some of my posts? because godslayer has left this forum (i talked with im about it on pixeljoint), i tried to take over his place, but then since people started hating me.... i kinda stopped... and i'm still hated .. go figure Sigs made by Runemetsa, Nuzza, Dark_Shadow, Kuroi and Me.liquid blobs attacking eachother American Anime... YAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawn509 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 One last question you should have included; How do you feel about the quality of criticisms being posted on the forum? Criticisms play a major role in getting any better. If people never criticised, i'd never be as good as I am now. If you search for old posts of me as the author at The Gallery, you'll see what I mean. I used to use filter piles all the time but as soon as I was criticised and told to use brushes, I gave them a go. Comments are nice, criticisms are much better. QFT! I don't think I would have been near as close to where I am now in art if it were not for a lot of critism, a lot of it which was very harsh. I didn't like it back then but it did motivate me to try and get better to "prove them wrong". As far as C/C goes there are a few posters lurking around that are giving some great C/C for pixels. However, sadly, I feel that the quality of C/C for some abstracts isn't "as" good. [minus Cad's critism perhaps]. Mostly because I haven't gotten any in a while. :( Meh ill say the same about harsh C\C... when i started Gs simply tore my work to shreds again and again... Comments like "you know pants aren't metal poles, they have folds!" Got thrown at me time and time again :ohnoes: Still, i wish there were people who would still do that... :( hehe, read some of my posts? because godslayer has left this forum (i talked with im about it on pixeljoint), i tried to take over his place, but then since people started hating me.... i kinda stopped... and i'm still hated .. go figure Face it, people do not respond well to criticism on this forum, at all. but I still wub joo .....o.0 :oops: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megadedhed Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Face it, people do not respond well to criticism on this forum, at all. but I still wub joo .....o.0 :oops: :P YAY!!! (hugs) : Sigs made by Runemetsa, Nuzza, Dark_Shadow, Kuroi and Me.liquid blobs attacking eachother American Anime... YAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer777 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Hey, thanks for this thread. Reading responses were interesting. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 One last question you should have included; How do you feel about the quality of criticisms being posted on the forum? Criticisms play a major role in getting any better. If people never criticised, i'd never be as good as I am now. If you search for old posts of me as the author at The Gallery, you'll see what I mean. I used to use filter piles all the time but as soon as I was criticised and told to use brushes, I gave them a go. Comments are nice, criticisms are much better. QFT! I don't think I would have been near as close to where I am now in art if it were not for a lot of critism, a lot of it which was very harsh. I didn't like it back then but it did motivate me to try and get better to "prove them wrong". As far as C/C goes there are a few posters lurking around that are giving some great C/C for pixels. However, sadly, I feel that the quality of C/C for some abstracts isn't "as" good. [minus Cad's critism perhaps]. Mostly because I haven't gotten any in a while. :( Meh ill say the same about harsh C\C... when i started Gs simply tore my work to shreds again and again... Comments like "you know pants aren't metal poles, they have folds!" Got thrown at me time and time again :ohnoes: Still, i wish there were people who would still do that... :( Some people are afraid of getting banned I supose. Yeah, sadly I miss the old days when Witty, Keiphius and GSW tore apart my works =p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazgul740 Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Yeah... I haven't been able to really improve on my pixels lately because i haven't gotten more then 3 replys on any of my threads (on two forums) Anyone know a place where people still rip work to shreds to MAKE you improve?? Oo... yeah that was how it was... They were like the gods of the forum... They were good and did thier best job, and because they always did thier best job and put all thier talent and skill into a sig they expected the same from you... When you didn't put all your effort into it then BAM!... There goes the harsh C\C... Take a lazy bg and BAM!.... Ect ect... They wanted you to be as good as they were and if you didn't at least try then you weren't even worth thier time... :cry: I miss those days.... I'm not motivated to pixeling as much anymore... P.S.megadedhed- we still wub ya :wink: : New sigzor^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despaxes Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I would give decent C/C on pixels. The only problem is that no decent pixel has been posted on the gallery for ages. And i dont want to waste time saying "This sucks." Because, truthbe told from what ive seen most pixels here have little to no potential of getting better. I myself havent drawn since school started, because A) No art classes, thank you academy =).(sarcasm) B)If i did i would have nowhere to get good critique, the only people who gave good critique are gone from here, i cant get the hang of any graphics forum, and no matter what i do my DA page goes unnoticed haha. So why do it if i wont get better. So im stuck leaving a stray comment here or there out of my neccesity to post here which will undoubtebly be cut short, because i am one of the few still not afraid of being banned. thanks everyone for the sigs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_shadow Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Yeah... I haven't been able to really improve on my pixels lately because i haven't gotten more then 3 replys on any of my threads (on two forums) Anyone know a place where people still rip work to shreds to MAKE you improve?? id like to know as well. when i post here, ill get say 5 replies now, and maybe one will have some decent CC in it. 1.) Is there anyone at all left in this forum that wants to do pixel work for free? I started one a little while ago, however it was for a specified rs related signature. i LOATHE having to be told exactly what someone likes (within reason) and having to copy an exact style already made (ie, copying rs pictures and making them as pixel sigs) if i see ideas that i like, i will make free pixel sigs. and i think mine are classified as semi-quality? no offense, but better than most of the ones being posted in the gallery now? 2.) If you answered Yes to the first question, then please answer this too. What motivates you to make a pixel work for free, even though there are other forums that you can go and sell your talent? Well, believe it or not, i like to help people. if someone sounds honest, helpful and like a cool person (IMO) id like to help them. if theyre rude, demanding and selfish, i will refuse to help them, IMO they dont deserve it. for me, if someone says "thanks for the sig, and for helping me" or something like that, or just a simple 'thankyou' its enough reward for me. 3.) If you are able to make other types of signature, like abstract, or vector, etc... Why don't you make some for people for free every now and then?[/b] only just started with abstracts, so theyre not good enough to make and give away at the moment 4.) Is there anyone in here interested in bringing back the Tip.it community Pixel signature collabs? if someone starts it, ill pitch in as often as i can. How do you feel about the general atmosphere of the Gallery and the Art Bazaar? Hostile? Welcoming? Boring? So and so? please post anything you feel describes your perception of it. Not sure. lol :oops: How do you feel about the quality of work being posted at the forum? when sig selling was still allowed, the great pixellers were here, and when they posted for CC it was WORTH looking at. now, no offense, a lot of the work here isnt nearly as good, yet people are giving say 10/10 for a piece of work which would have recieved a 1/10 ages ago. the quality of pixels has declined signifigantly IMO. however the abstracts etc have improved, i prefer them much more now. Featuring in my sig: TURT, ma pet turdle! Thanks to- Runemetsa and Aijiru for two of the great sigs!Avatar made by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terley Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I personally think you've been great here megadedhed, very upbeat, willing to speak your mind and give advice were you can :D There's no one I 'hate' here theres plenty I don't know but mostly people are nice.. I try to keep this forum as active as possible, even after being perminately banned you still couldn't keep me away and im back for good. If this forum looses everything else it won't loose me : if that helps at all.. This forum has gone down since some people have left but it's the future that matters, don't dream of things being how they were. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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