RS2 Products? PC Products? Whats next...

[killmenub]

Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but thought it was more of a discussion then a rant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok people, seriously this is getting out of hand. Some people really need to think about what there typing as there starting to look really sad. First people thought they were cool for calling people RS2 Products (for those who dont know what this means, its a person whos only ever played runescape 2).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now all I see is people going 'pc product :roll: ' its getting very sad. Who cares if someone uses pest control to level up? Who cares if someones never played runescape classic? I played runescape classic 3 years ago, but my stats dont reflect that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be honest pest control might be making it more common, or easier to get higher levels but not much faster. As more people play runescape everyday, there was always going to be 'a lot' of high levels in the end. I personally would rather use pest control to waste half the time of my life i play runescape then to waste double the amount of time of my life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Summary: People who call people PC Products or RS2 Products are idiots, and whenever I see someone say that in a thread i'm going to be forced to flame you, for not having a life.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discuss: is PC or being a RS2 product really that bad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[la la la]

No. It all depends on your character. You can be a rs player since the beginning but be a complete jerk, but nobody will like you. You could have started 3 months ago and play pc all the time, but be a really nice person, and people won't harass you.

[Wachtwoord]

The reason is easy, pc makes it too easy to lvl up.

 

 

 

And everytime I see a 80+ with noob gear (and he can't afford better) I always ask if he got his lvls by pc. 80% says yes, so more noobs at high(er) lvls.

[Thus]

I really don't care. Levels are levels

[dude_of_war4]

well i have only seen a few people who call others idiots if they use pc products to level so i dont really see whats so bad about it

 

 

 

and also why do u type in miniscule text its seriously annoying

[tripsis]

I'm sure this thread will cause a lot of negative comments, so I'll keep my eye on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, I can't help but agree with you. "RS2 Products" can't help that they weren't introduced to Runescape until later on in the game - there's nothing they can do about it. Absolutely no good will come out of insulting them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for "PC Pruducts," sure they might be taking the "easy way out," but in some senses, it's the smart way out. The faster you max out combat, the faster you can work on other skills. I do think that PC made combat almost too easy, considering how many 126s you see these days, and I am against being able to level prayer at PC.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though I must say, calling these "name callers" idiots right back won't do much good either :wink:

[SaidinWoT]

The point of the "RS2/PC Product" arguement is that those players never had to endure the slowness involved in levelling before RS2/PC. I don't really see the point in blaming someone for not finding the game prior to the RS2 release, and as such never use the phrase "RS2 Product" and don't understand why others do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for PC Product, yes there are som really nice people who got incredibly good levels over a short time by playing PC, but I've met a few too many immature and rude level 115+s for my liking. I never say "PC Product" either, but I dislike PC for the simple point that it used to take a bit of maturity and concentration to get high levels, where now it has become a streamlined process where someone can (with a lot of time on their hands) hit 126 combat without having ever risked a single item, and earn a nice profit in doing so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: As Tripsis pointed out, it is a smart way to go about doing it, and I respect the decisions of the people who do it for that reason. I've just seen too many "I r hi lvl respect me nub" players :(

[killmenub]

A lot of fast replies, but i just find these people annoying who flame others for using pest control, and i agree pest control is faster then normal trainning, but isnt jagex doing us a favour if were wasting less time of our lives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know >.<

[Adam007]

A lot of fast replies, but i just find these people annoying who flame others for using pest control, and i agree pest control is faster then normal trainning, but isnt jagex doing us a favour if were wasting less time of our lives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know >.<

 

 

 

Yeah, but what kind of a message is that sending people who already maxxed their skills out? The 99 lever joke Paul's famous for mentioning would make everyone love jagex, but obviously it would be unfair both to the game itself and to people who earned levels the real way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't call people products of anything, but I could see why people would. It's just frustrating remembering back when you actually had to use food to train, most of the time made yourself, and you only got 10-30k xp an hour. Now you just click a boat, click a portal, and you've got 80k+ xp an hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean it is what it is, and we can't complain about that, but it's still frustrating knowing how easily everyone else is flying by. If I spent my time levelling in rs2 instead of rs1, I'd be a much higher level than I am now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things like early in slayer where you had to fight the monsters that you were assigned to, and randomly changing it so you could switch assignments is just annoying. When I did the majority of my levelling, if I had an annoying assignment, I had to deal with it. New players don't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They shoot through their levels easily, and get the same levels I do faster and easier than I did. At least there's one countering advantage. People do level easier who started later. But people who started earlier have their own advantage: rares. :twisted:

[killmenub]

True, but I struggle to get 60k an hour at pest control, and thats with an 85+ world winning most games in 2 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes i remember the times where it took ages to level, it took me 2-3 months to get to level 55 in runescape classic lol, yet everyone knew runescape was going to evolve so why complain?

[DarkDude]

Pest Control ruined the correlation between high level and maturity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Generally before PC 99% of people 110+ combat could speak correctly and have good manners. Due to pest control this has fallen to probably around 70% if not less, before I could pretty much assume I could get a decent conversation out of the "higher levels" but now it's just hit and hope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing about "RS2 Products" I can't stand is the ones who think they know everything. If you tell them that they're wrong they call you a liar. I've been playing for 5 years and I don't know everything about the game so because you've been playing 2 years there's no chance in hell you know everything about the game so stop pretending you do.

[DarkDude]

 

 

 

and you only got a few thousand k xp an hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'd love to get a few million xp an hour ;)

[killmenub]

Pest Control ruined the correlation between high level and maturity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Generally before PC 99% of people 110+ combat could speak correctly and have good manners. Due to pest control this has fallen to probably around 70% if not less, before I could pretty much assume I could get a decent conversation out of the "higher levels" but now it's just hit and hope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing about "RS2 Products" I can't stand is the ones who think they know everything. If you tell them that they're wrong they call you a liar. I've been playing for 5 years and I don't know everything about the game so because you've been playing 2 years there's no chance in hell you know everything about the game so stop pretending you do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I disagree with what your saying there, you seem like a person who believes only high levels could talk to high levels, and they ignored the lower levels? You forget that is doesnt matter what level you are, that level 3 could be a 30 year old who could talk for hours and hold a decent conversation, where that level 123 could be 9. Anyways i can understand what your saying #-o

[Adam007]

True, but I struggle to get 60k an hour at pest control, and thats with an 85+ world winning most games in 2 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes i remember the times where it took ages to level, it took me 2-3 months to get to level 55 in runescape classic lol, yet everyone knew runescape was going to evolve so why complain?

 

 

 

What do you mean you struggle? You don't know what struggling is. In early rs1 everywhere you were you could be killed while training. In late rs1 the best training spot was in the axe hut in the wild. People took risks where they could be killed at any time for the best xp in the game. Now is there a risk? You can't even die. It's ridiculous. How can you call that struggling?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yet everyone knew runescape was going to evolve so why complain?

 

 

 

Again, we're not complaining. We're just saying it's frustrating and not exactly fair. You can't really suggest that we should have waited until now to level skills, can you? Of course we knew some elements would get easier, but nothing like tripling the speed one levels at. Things like that are just a slap in the face to the people who maxxed out earliest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pest Control ruined the correlation between high level and maturity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Generally before PC 99% of people 110+ combat could speak correctly and have good manners. Due to pest control this has fallen to probably around 70% if not less, before I could pretty much assume I could get a decent conversation out of the "higher levels" but now it's just hit and hope.

 

 

 

A great point that I forgot to mention. All of these new high level 100+ were usually filtered out, because in rs1, it took real patience to get to such a high level. Now it's not that way so much anymore. You can max out in a few months of 'no-lifing.' Anyone can get to level 100+, and there isn't as much as a filter to get rid of annoying kids who let loose their inner criminal/badmouth that anonymousness allows. There just isn't any maturity anymore that you used to be able to expect from high levels.

[Michael]

I'm 96 combat, does that mean that I am incapable of civilised conversation?

[DarkDude]

What I meant was before it was basicly impossible to find a high level who could not type correctly. I know that a lot of lower levels can provide excellent conversations. It's just a shame that most of the people that use Pest Control to get a high level appear to be the ones that can't speak correctly.

[fat_hobbit22]

uhg do i detect jelousy that you dont use pestcontrol to get to lvl 126 or that your jelous because people have found a better way and done what you did in half the time?

 

 

 

OK you have a reason to be annoyed but hate the game not the players!

 

 

 

SO totaly right about high lvls usailly means higher maturity and thats dyeing now but you cant blame all your problems on pest!!

[DarkDude]

I'm 96 combat, does that mean that I am incapable of civilised conversation?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Read my post below yours, I was saying that you were unlikely to find high levels who could not speak correctly.

[Michael]

What I meant was before it was basicly impossible to find a high level who could not type correctly. I know that a lot of lower levels can provide excellent conversations. It's just a shame that most of the people that use Pest Control to get a high level appear to be the ones that can't speak correctly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know that you don't mean all low levels can't speak properly, I do however agree that the people who get high combat lvls fast are arrogant towards lower levels.

[Cbkviper]

This seems more like it should belong in the rant section... :-k

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, I couldn't agree with you more. I especially hate the RS2 product insult, but I can see why people say it and pc product, as explained by Adam007.

[Sly_Wizard]

Discuss: is PC or being a RS2 product really that bad -.-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Simple answer: Yes.

[tripsis]

 

A lot of fast replies, but i just find these people annoying who flame others for using pest control, and i agree pest control is faster then normal trainning, but isnt jagex doing us a favour if were wasting less time of our lives?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know >.<

 

 

 

Yeah, but what kind of a message is that sending people who already maxxed their skills out? The 99 lever joke Paul's famous for mentioning would make everyone love jagex, but obviously it would be unfair both to the game itself and to people who earned levels the real way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't call people products of anything, but I could see why people would. It's just frustrating remembering back when you actually had to use food to train, most of the time made yourself, and you only got 10-30k xp an hour. Now you just click a boat, click a portal, and you've got 80k+ xp an hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean it is what it is, and we can't complain about that, but it's still frustrating knowing how easily everyone else is flying by. If I spent my time levelling in rs2 instead of rs1, I'd be a much higher level than I am now.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Things like early in slayer where you had to fight the monsters that you were assigned to, and randomly changing it so you could switch assignments is just annoying. When I did the majority of my levelling, if I had an annoying assignment, I had to deal with it. New players don't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They shoot through their levels easily, and get the same levels I do faster and easier than I did. At least there's one countering advantage. People do level easier who started later. But people who started earlier have their own advantage: rares. :twisted:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although, you could use that same reasoning for a ton of other skills. For example, cooking/fletching before and after cook/fletch X. Or prayer before and after Ecto/Gilded Altars. Runecrafting before and after pouches and the Abyssal Space. And so on..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lets try to keep this post nice or I'll have to lock it :wink:

[Adam007]

uhg do i detect jelousy that you dont use pestcontrol to get to lvl 126 or that your jelous because people have found a better way and done what you did in half the time?

 

 

 

OK you have a reason to be annoyed but hate the game not the players!

 

 

 

SO totaly right about high lvls usailly means higher maturity and thats dyeing now but you cant blame all your problems on pest!!

 

 

 

Again, misconstruing what we're saying. It is the fault of the game, but we're only saying it's frustrating that our time was used less efficiently than your time. There's no jealousy. It is what it is, and I'm not complaining. People haven't "found a better way" - we didn't have pest control. We had hobgoblins on islands(that was my spot :P). If we had a better way, we found it. We were training at the maximum efficiency the game allowed. The game now offers a much higher maximum efficiency, and it's just annoying that we never had the opportunity when we were younger and had all the time you guys do now to train.

[killmenub]

Ah a lot of posts fast >.<

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wasnt directly saying you was complaining, i was saying that people who go around calling people PC Products complain, theres nothing wrong with using PC :\

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True, but I struggle to get 60k an hour at pest control, and thats with an 85+ world winning most games in 2 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yes i remember the times where it took ages to level, it took me 2-3 months to get to level 55 in runescape classic lol, yet everyone knew runescape was going to evolve so why complain?

 

 

 

What do you mean you struggle? You don't know what struggling is. In early rs1 everywhere you were you could be killed while training. In late rs1 the best training spot was in the axe hut in the wild. People took risks where they could be killed at any time for the best xp in the game. Now is there a risk? You can't even die. It's ridiculous. How can you call that struggling?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wasn't saying it in the way you read it, i played runescape classic, i know how hard it was compared to now, and your going off onto a wilderness rant, which i'd probly agree with as the wildy is a joke.

[Michael]

As the game goes on updates happen that make it easier to gain levels in the respective skills, but saying that it still requires huge amounts of time and incredible determination to achieve a 99 skill.