Do you believe in God?

 

No, I do not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To believe in God is nothing short of gullible.

 

 

 

Agreed totally ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ps. i hated my re teacher

wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself?

If you dont believe that is your choice and I will never insult you for it, but don't call me gullible for believing. Spiritual beliefs are very personal and very individual. I will always respect your choice not to belive and you should extend me the same courtesy. 8)

 

 

No, I do not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To believe in God is nothing short of gullible.

 

 

 

Agreed totally ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ps. i hated my re teacher

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself?

 

 

 

That is true, although I would not call myself gullable, because the main reason I do not believe in god is because of the lack of evidence for his existence. You can't question lack of evidence, so gullability doesn't apply. Perhaps ignorance... naivety... stubborness... but not gullability.

Besides, for me not believing in god wasn't a decision at first, it was more of a default state. So really I never made a decision which you could call gullable anyway. I think it's the same for a lot of atheists. I didn't decide not to believe in god, I just havn't decided to believe in him.

Now I am old enough to question whether I should have made the decision to believe in him, I still find I don't see that I should, or could. That's it really. I couldn't believe in god, even if I wanted to. I need evidence! Proper, hard evidence. Not the "look inside yourself" kind, because who knows what happens in the human mind? I couldn't trust that kind of evidence. I would need actual solid evidence for the presence of god, then I would believe in him. I would have to.

 

 

No, I do not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To believe in God is nothing short of gullible.

 

 

 

Agreed totally ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ps. i hated my re teacher

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you dont believe that is your choice and I will never insult you for it, but don't call me gullible for believing. Spiritual beliefs are very personal and very individual. I will always respect your choice not to belive and you should extend me the same courtesy. 8)

I would say it's unfair both ways.

It's not gullible at all, since we don't know the truth. You can't prove it.

ok lol..here's a proof. Today a made a renewed commitment to myself to eat not only vegetarian, but vegan. This evening right after dark I walked outside to check on my kids when a gnat got sucked right up my nose, through my sinuses and down my throat. That is one of a bazillion proofs to me that not only does God exist, but he has a sense of humor to boot. :lol:

vegetarian disclaimer: I am not a vegetarian for any moral, political or religious reasons. My body simply cant handle meat or dairy and i feel like hell when I eat it. So I do it for health reasons.

Why do we have to keep bringing thins up? It makes no since. Tip.It administrators, Take this stupid thing down and keep it from being brought up again. It's a huge waste of harddrive space.

Why do we have to keep bringing thins up? It makes no since. Tip.It administrators, Take this stupid thing down and keep it from being brought up again. It's a huge waste of harddrive space.

Ok I just saw the topic you created...

If it's intelligent debating, what's wrong with it?

If you don't like it, don't post on it, no one is forcing you to.

In the topic you created you stated that it creates too many angry posts. It looks like the most angry post on this page is the one I'm quoting right here. Ironically it's the one with the most irrelevant contribution to the topic.

I would have to say that I do not believe in god, it is just something that man has created from the beginning of his existence to explained what he doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t/can not comprehend or understand. For example early on people used to say that there must be a god for the sun to explain it. One reason that really hammers home that there is no god is how the church is always having to re explain things, they used to say that god was up in the clouds, been up above the clouds sorry no god, those are just a few examples of this I canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be bothered writing the rest down. Also I will not believe in something unless it can be proved scientifically, if you can prove it to me this way then i will acept it.

I would have to say that I do not believe in god, it is just something that man has created from the beginning of his existence to explained what he doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t/can not comprehend or understand. For example early on people used to say that there must be a god for the sun to explain it. One reason that really hammers home that there is no god is how the church is always having to re explain things, they used to say that god was up in the clouds, been up above the clouds sorry no god, those are just a few examples of this I canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be bothered writing the rest down. Also I will not believe in something unless it can be proved scientifically, if you can prove it to me this way then i will acept it.

If something has not been disproved, then it is still possible, no? God is outside of this universe, he is supernatural. He cannot be directly studied, observed, or proven. Therefore, since he cannot be proven or disproven, his existence is still a possiblity, not to be completely discarded as myth.

I believe in God, I mean I agree there is no way to prove that he is real but on the other hand there is no evidence to prove he is not real.

This topic just became a huge flame war with christians arguing against athiests. No matter what evidence we poist to disprove god they ppl who belive it just wont listen. its a dead topic. lets just leave it behind on the old scape.

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wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself?

 

 

 

As an atheist i find that believing or not believing wasn't a decision, it was just that way for as long as i can remember - no one influenced me to believe or not believe, i just plain didn't.

 

I would have to say that I do not believe in god, it is just something that man has created from the beginning of his existence to explained what he doesnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t/can not comprehend or understand. For example early on people used to say that there must be a god for the sun to explain it. One reason that really hammers home that there is no god is how the church is always having to re explain things, they used to say that god was up in the clouds, been up above the clouds sorry no god, those are just a few examples of this I canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t be bothered writing the rest down. Also I will not believe in something unless it can be proved scientifically, if you can prove it to me this way then i will acept it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If something has not been disproved, then it is still possible, no? God is outside of this universe, he is supernatural. He cannot be directly studied, observed, or proven. Therefore, since he cannot be proven or disproven, his existence is still a possiblity, not to be completely discarded as myth.

prove P Pronunciation Key (prv)

v. proved, proved, or provÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷en (prvn) provÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâ÷ing, proves

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To establish the truth or validity of by presentation of argument or evidence

When something cannot be proven then it is false. When a false idea is thought to be true then it is a THEORY.

When one believes that a theory is true because people have claimed it, and NOT for scientic reasoning and LOGIC... I call them gullible.

Theorys I dont believe in:

God (Illogical, everything has a beginning, an infinetly complex being cannot exsists for an infinite time)

The Big Bang (Also illogical, something cannot be created out of nothing.)

Theories I believe in:

Evolution

Evolution and the Big bang are scientific theories, which means they are theories to explain the scientific observations and evidence.

Now that was the most uncontributive topic on the thread. Also. It's not intelligent debating. It's just arguing.

Now that was the most uncontributive topic on the thread. Also. It's not intelligent debating. It's just arguing.

Now that was the most uncontributive topic on the thread. Also. It's not intelligent debating. It's just arguing.

Debating = Arguing

Uncontributive and unintelligent = The_Coolness

 

wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As an atheist i find that believing or not believing wasn't a decision, it was just that way for as long as i can remember - no one influenced me to believe or not believe, i just plain didn't.

I think that a lot of atheists are atheists for this reason. They never made a conscious choice not to believe in God, but it just never fit into the way they thought about the world.

At least, that's true for me.

This was an amazing topic back on Scapeboard... let it be reborn.

Actually the biggest topic was "discussion on religion"

It was like 46 pages long or longer.

Edit: yeah, I am a christian. I believe in god.

Evolution and the Big bang are scientific theories, which means they are theories to explain the scientific observations and evidence.

Theories dont explain observations and evidence. It's the other way around. And evolution and the big bang are unproven theories which scientists have yet to be able to find enough evidence to explain coherently, imho 8)

 

Evolution and the Big bang are scientific theories, which means they are theories to explain the scientific observations and evidence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Theories dont explain observations and evidence. It's the other way around. And evolution and the big bang are unproven theories which scientists have yet to be able to find enough evidence to explain coherently, imho 8)

Evolution hasnt been proven? Dangnabit, must have been my imagination when someone posted the link to some proof.

 

This was an amazing topic back on Scapeboard... let it be reborn.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually the biggest topic was "discussion on religion"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It was like 46 pages long or longer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: yeah, I am a christian. I believe in god.

No, there was a discussion called "Do you believe in god?" it reached around... 120 pages before the mods stole it as it messed their moderation abilities up.

 

 

wouldn't it be fair to say the same about NOT believing in God, since it is higly likely that you came to this decision under the influence of someone or something other than yourself?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As an atheist i find that believing or not believing wasn't a decision, it was just that way for as long as i can remember - no one influenced me to believe or not believe, i just plain didn't.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think that a lot of atheists are atheists for this reason. They never made a conscious choice not to believe in God, but it just never fit into the way they thought about the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At least, that's true for me.

For me, its [cabbage], and no one told me it was [cabbage], I attended church as a kid (forced to) yet still knew it was [cabbage]. Seems to me like the biggest scam in the world, some guy trying to declare himself king so he can rip people off. :roll:

 

 

Evolution and the Big bang are scientific theories, which means they are theories to explain the scientific observations and evidence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Theories dont explain observations and evidence. It's the other way around. And evolution and the big bang are unproven theories which scientists have yet to be able to find enough evidence to explain coherently, imho 8)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Evolution hasnt been proven? Dangnabit, must have been my imagination when someone posted the link to some proof.

If you have proof, perhaps you could humor me by sharing it here so I dont have to wade back through 10 pages of posts? I have seen none.

I seen no proof for evolution there. All I see is that scientists are still desperately trying to prove something they cant.