Goat's Budget training 1: Possibly the most underated spell

I am sure many of you will remember my first post on the subject, and after around a month of workings out and gathering info from other players i have decided to re-post the new and improved guide.

Requirements:

Runecrafting

44 rune crafting (not for nats, for 5 airs per ess and 4 minds per ess)

Combat

Either

50+ mage with 25+ defence to wear mysic armour (for mage bonus)

OR

70+ mage with 70+ defence for full ahrims (for better mage bonus)

Items

Fire/Lava Staff and Mage armour

Games Necklace

A stack of Essence / Air and mind runes. (if starting with the runes you can ignore the first few sentances of the next section)

Method

Start off at an essence mine and mine around 1.2k ess. Then craft that into around 4k airs and 2k minds (give or take a few runes). Then get yourself whatever mage armour you use. A common mistake here is to use dragon hide armour because it has a good mage defence but the mage attack bonus which you need is actually pretty pants. Also get yourself a games necklace. This is to tele you out of the dragons. (this is not a must, you can replace this with a mage, power or glory ammy and use tele runes, a tele tablet or just run out of the dungeon area, but any kind of tele is much quicker)

Then head down to taverly dungeon blue drags. You will have 3 spaces taken up in invent (minds, airs and key to dragon area). This gives you room for 25 items, kill 13 drags, take the hides and bones of all and only the bones of the last drag (they are worth more.Sometimes, i get a good drop that is worth more than drag bones like a nature rune drop, droppen 15 at a time this can be sold for around 4.5k) Tele out to games room and head to bank under the pub opposite the games room.

Final notes

Drags will take 30-40 shots of fire strike each to kill, and the 4-5k from selling bones and hides will cover costs almost 3 times over. This gives you money to buy the ess you have used and quite a bit left over to:

a) buy more ess and kill drags for longer next time

OR

B) buy yourself a little treat for being so clever

Some of my testers have been 85+ mage wearing Ahrims and Seers rings with huge mage bonus'. Also boasting 60+ runecrafting. They were hitting constant 7's and 8's and managed to make around 950% profit from buying 2.5k normal ess and crafting themselves. Also because of the safe sports this is incredibly good for training pures and making money on pures, I have only had one pure try the method for me because not many pures i could find train rune crafting so if any pures read this it would be appreciated if you try it out and give me some feedback.

This will be updated in a few days, leave comments and ideas to make the guide better (apart from the obvious lack of pics)

50+ views and no comments!!! im shocked

Plus i made an update on it

lol, good idea, though its fairly stupid

Stupid? I don't think so. I think it makes a lot of sense actually. I mean sometimes it can be hard to hit fairly well with mage on dragons but this seems like an awesome idea. *Runs off to train runecrafting on pure*

really cool idea. Is it possible to break even, even if you buy runes? Because this sounds like a much funner and maybe faster (not sure) way to train compared to alching thousands of yew longbows.

I'd say heroes guild was better, on a crowded world with fast respawn you'd probably get around 3 times as many runs in as using Taverly Dungeon. Can't go in on a pure though, which is a shame.

very slow, very time consuming, you would make more just rcing nats with that 44 rc...and then u could just buy the mage exp

OK guide, but this method is mostly useful only if you are on a tight budget. If you are trying to level mage, I'd suggest using better spells, as using fire strike is highly inefficient (exp wise).

Also, the amount of time wasted crafting all the runes is substantial (unless you have heaps of runners, then it can be costly). Mage levl would also have a major impact on the amount of damage done, and possibly the accuracy. However, it is a very cost effective method, and can be quite good in the long run. Really, it's up to you whether you want max profit or efficiency.

So, nice idea, but whether you use it or not is really up to you.

nice , but many people all ready no this

heya ppl, thanks for the feedback. As one person said, you can do this much quicker if you use the dragons in heros guild. But this was aimed at pures and people that want to train mage and not make a loss.

Someone else mentioned buying your own runes. I think you could quite easily break even IF you get a good price on your runes. This is easily seen if you use fire strike at Pest Control. You can easily break even if you have a combat of over 70+ while buying you runes.

If you dont mind could you try it for me please and see what happens.

Nd to the person who said the idea was stupid... go home!

Nice idea, but I can't do 1 first strike anymore, I lvled all the way from lvl 14 till 60+ with fire strike only! I've a trauma now :XD:

But still, very nice idea

Nice idea, but I can't do 1 first strike anymore, I lvled all the way from lvl 14 till 60+ with fire strike only! I've a trauma now :XD:

Sorry to hear it m8, but sometimes we need to overcome our fears.... lol

I have used between my file and my pure around 15k shots of fire strike and it does seem a tad repetitive but... what the hey!

I was going to say "P2P would do better with chaos runes for bolts" - BUT:

1. At the specified RC level, it would be 1x chaos instead of 4x mind, and a bolt is only 50% more power than a strike.

2. The chaos altar is in wildy, inside a maze, the alternative being the abyss.

Strikes may be a bit cheapskate, and a bit slow, but pack a hell of a punch for the resources used to buy or make the runes. Ideal for safespotting. My favourite stronghold spell, even against the Ankou - my pure mage is stocking up on deaths for serious combat, but is usually armed with a stack of minds, airs and fire staff.

my pure mage is stocking up on deaths for serious combat, but is usually armed with a stack of minds, airs and fire staff.

My friend, you are a legend. ur mage pure is like mine lol

i like this strat i used it a lot when i was training, but i found that a cheaper alternative is earth strike takes about 40 casts and costs 20 less per cast. so it add up quick = \

wow! you are a genius! i tried it the other day... not only does the runes take a third of the time less to make, the spell hits pretty well at my level too... although it takes more casts to kill blue drags, the casts cost less. I am still trial testing this method to soo how much potential it has but i can see a hell of a lot of potential

Earth strike versus Fire strike, a debate that's been running for ages.

Earth strike uses Earth Staff, 1 air and 1 mind, hits 6 max.

Fire strike uses Fire Staff, 2 air and 1 mind, hits 8 max

Heavy duty strike training demands the use of the appropriate staff, so earth or fire rune usage is not worth considering.

Two schools of thought:

Earth - Uses half the air runes, and only gives away 25% of the max hit. So it takes a bit longer to do the same damage, you don't use strikes in a tough combat. Also, with just water and body, targets can be cursed before attacking.

Fire - Does 33% more max damage for the use of a mind rune - and I really hate the walk to the mind altar. Uses more airs, but then the air altar is a shorter and safer route. Ok, so it's an extra space for curse runes, but take some nats and you can high-alch with just nats and staff.

If you craft your own, the fire strikers wil be visiting the air altar more than the mind, while earth strikers will be visiting the mind altar more than the air.

At 44 RC....

Fire:

5X Mind altar trips = 560 minds from 140 ess

8X Air trips = 1120 Airs from 224 ess

Total ess used = 364

560 casts x 8 max = 4480

4480 / 364 = 12.3 max damage per ess

Earth:

5X Mind altar trips = 560 minds from 140 ess

4X Air trips = 560 Airs from 112 ess

Total ess used = 252

560 casts x 6 max = 3360

3360 / 252 = 13.3 max damage per ess

Interesting, the damage potential per essence used (at 44 RC) is actually slightly higher for earth strikes, amazing how close it is.

If you are using the games necklace there ar 2 possible places to bank - the Rogues guild and Warriors guild. You should add the necessary level requirements to be able to use the bank in either of these.

If you are using the games necklace there ar 2 possible places to bank - the Rogues guild and Warriors guild. You should add the necessary level requirements to be able to use the bank in either of these.

I think you can use the Rogues Den bank at any level, its only the shop and mini-game that require 50 agility and theiving.

i train my pure using earth strike only ,and i have 20 defence, i love it and it is fast and cheap/.

on my pure now my main i guess \ i used wind strike or the on with minds and airs and so it was preety boring but i just sat abd spinned my screen and watched tv or somthing(trained at blue drags with my friend he died fomr a baby blue :wall:

I trained my pure from 9-53 mage using fire strike! It is a very cost efficient spell, but, after 53 it gets a bit tedious, so I switched to fire bolt (because I now had the cash :P)

But yes, I did train at Blue Dragons... (Buying mind/air runes) and I made a hefty profit... I also ranged from 60-66 range there =D

Yes, thank you for spilling a well kept secret :P

This isn't much of a guide...You're simply advocating the use of the spell. It's a very good spell, i agree, i used it until 55 on blue drags. Much better though to: do 5 runs of nat running for someone. (make 50k), buy 10k mind runes from store.

It's much quicker then 50 strikes per drag too. More like 20 for me.

I used this method for some time. It's quite easy to break even, or profit while buying the runes aswell. Good guide :)

Now where would be a good place to earn a profit by using this guide on f2p