Post Requirement for Making Topics. (Lets brainstorm now)

OH, Hi there guys!

I've been thinking with some of the spam I'm seeing or random topics from the same person over and over that we need to implement a post count requirement to make a topic.

I'd say that these requirements would have to be low so it does not encourage tons of spamming when it comes to replying to a topic, maybe 20-50 or around there.

Also, if possible at all a post would need more than 6-15 words in order to count towards post count.

What do you think Tip.it?

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As people have been making some really good points that I havnt thought of, So I want to see if anyone here has some ideas on topic spam control.[/b]

Useless. With a requirement, these people will just spam other people's topics to get their post count up.

So instead of them creating spammy topics, they turn other threads into spammy topics.

Well that's why they should make it on the low side so lots of spamming doesnt occur, and the tool that counts a post only if it has over a certain number of characters.

Also the spamming of a topic doesnt affect the board as a whole, just that topic.

I wouldn't like that, as has been said countless times before (it's my turn, now), post count is quantity, not quality. A lot of users join because they have an idea for a thread. I joined because I wanted to make a thread, and if I found out that I had to post 50 times before I could make one, I would have been like "Screw this...", and may have never continued here.

Who the heck is ewan?

The person will be spamming more than 1 topic to get the post count to what you suggested and if many are doing it, it can spam a board. It really isn't that bad at the moment, mods are locking these threads and there isn't an extreme need for a post count requirement.

This also affects new people. If they want to post for advice on lets say Help and Advice, they now couldn't do this because they might not meet the requirement.

Errdoth check out general discussion for Ewan.

And I got your point about quantity over quality, you are very right and i didnt really take that into consideration.

Also it doesnt have to be 50 maybe like 15-20?

There are plenty of boards in which your posts are counted and there are a vast amount of topics in which you can reply to.

Maybe there can be other ways of moderating topic making, 2 a day per board or anything else, I want to see some other Ideas too.

I still think that even at 15-20 posts required, that may be 15-20 spammy posts we don't need, imagine if lets say 5 new members have to each use 15 posts before they can create a topic, that may end in a bit of spam. It also isn't fair on people who may post good topics, but they are held back.

Lastly, it isn't all new people, I've seen people with hundreds of posts make spammy topics. So even if they reach their requirement to post, that doesn't mean they will magically stop making spammy topics.

Ok I see what you are saying. So I think we should look for new was of spam control.

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Off-Topic might be able to use 50 :-w

There should be no post requirement for making topics. Let me explain...

When I joined the Tip.it forums, I wanted to post a question. That was essentially all I signed up for at the time. I was able to go and make my topic right off, because there was no requirement.

On another forum, I also joined just to post a question. They have a limit: you need just 2 posts before you can make a topic. They did this to keep the spam bots away. Smart idea... mostly. You would see people making posts like "cool' or "nice" within a matter of minutes of each other... then they would post their topic. So... I haven't seen a spam bot at Tip.it in ages... therefore I see no need for this restriction.

There should be no post requirement for making topics. Let me explain...

 

When I joined the Tip.it forums, I wanted to post a question. That was essentially all I signed up for at the time. I was able to go and make my topic right off, because there was no requirement.

 

 

 

On another forum, I also joined just to post a question. They have a limit: you need just 2 posts before you can make a topic. They did this to keep the spam bots away. Smart idea... mostly. You would see people making posts like "cool' or "nice" within a matter of minutes of each other... then they would post their topic. So... I haven't seen a spam bot at Tip.it in ages... therefore I see no need for this restriction.

I totally agree, Tip.It is a very free hand forum, where anyone can post anywhere, and be anything they want. Let's not take that away.

I also have not seen an overly large amount of topics being created purely for spam, same with posts. It can all currently be dealt with case-by-case.

Nothing is too drastic at this current time to put such a strict requirement on X amount of forums, if there is, please show me. And one user shouldn't take away the priveleges of the thousands of others.

The case you are talking about is only an isolated case, and unless the TIF gets incredibly bigger soon, the Mods/Admins are more than enough to keep things under control. Before this case, had you ever seen anything similar that would have required such strict attention?

Of course you can always find the typical spammer, but just a couple of cases shouldn't cause the innocents to pay for the guilty.

You are always going to find spammers, flamers and rule breakers, no matter what their post count is at. I value the fact that we don't have any requirements to post in the various forums, it makes the place seem more "friendly" I think.

The problem there is, i could easily get 30-40 posts in about 4 hours by posting on Help and Advise.

The only option i guess is to make some forums have a requirement, e.g. Rants, Updates and those with postcounts.

I very, very rarely see anyone with under 400 posts, post here.

And one user shouldn't take away the priveleges of the thousands of others.

Thats bs... Theres probably about 100 people on this forum max, which do not have 50 posts. And the reason? They either post on forums like Rate This, which is not Post Count related, or Graveyard for the same reason... Of course the other reason if because they cant find something simple to post on to raise their post count.

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Oh, i've also found an example of a purely spammed thread...

My first good stake

The Kid has the 'required post' count, but the whole thing is a series of 2-5 word spam or emotes...

The problem there is, i could easily get 30-40 posts in about 4 hours by posting on Help and Advise.

Just think how much you would have helped the community?

I very, very rarely see anyone with under 400 posts, post here.

If you mean FU&S, I started posting here at 300ish posts.

And one user shouldn't take away the priveleges of the thousands of others.

 

 

 

Thats bs... Theres probably about 100 people on this forum max, which do not have 50 posts. And the reason? They either post on forums like Rate This, which is not Post Count related, or Graveyard for the same reason... Of course the other reason if because they cant find something simple to post on to raise their post count.

How do you think all those users got above that 50 post count? They posted in boards that you want to have a post count in. Tip.It is a large scary place when you first start posting, post count requirements would have turned me away like RSC did.

Oh, i've also found an example of a purely spammed thread...

 

 

 

My first good stake

 

 

 

The Kid has the 'required post' count, but the whole thing is a series of 2-5 word spam or emotes...

That thread is entirely directed at spam, and that's the only reason it was posted. Enjoy a good laugh.

I actually meant a thread, or something that didn't intend spam

The only reason I'd strongly support this would be to prevent newly created accounts from spamming the forums with topics with bad links or advertisements (10+ posts required? just a suggestion)

The only reason I'd strongly support this would be to prevent newly created accounts from spamming the forums with topics with bad links or advertisements (10+ posts required? just a suggestion)

But maybe only have that in affect on certain boards, like general and off-topic; so that users would be able to post a question in help/advice, that sort of thing.

The only reason I'd strongly support this would be to prevent newly created accounts from spamming the forums with topics with bad links or advertisements (10+ posts required? just a suggestion)

 

 

 

But maybe only have that in affect on certain boards, like general and off-topic; so that users would be able to post a question in help/advice, that sort of thing.

That wouldn't stop the spammers at all. If they couldn't post on General or Off Topic, they'd post somewhere where they can. It doesn't make a difference to spammers where they post as long as their point gets across. :wink:

Basically, there's no great way to go about this, so I don't feel we need this. I love the freedom we already have in this forum. If there are spammers, report the threads. That is what us mods are here for. :)

Instead of post counts, i think an account 2 months or older or something like that is better.

Instead of post counts, i think an account 2 months or older or something like that is better.

Now there's an idea...

Instead of post counts, i think an account 2 months or older or something like that is better.

What do you mean? Not allowing people to post because of how old their account is very cruel. :shame:

Instead of post counts, i think an account 2 months or older or something like that is better.

 

What do you mean? Not allowing people to post because of how old their account is very cruel. :shame:

And, once again, there is no reason for this. Just let users post their threads as they please. When/if they spam, report it. Then, leave it to the mods/admins to take care of it. We will give proper action depending on the ammount of spam they produce.

There is definetely no reason to put ANY restriction on posting. Whether it be join date, post count, or any other thing you can think up. This forum is pretty free how it is. Just because one user has spam posts doesn't mean another new user won't. If I had something I wished to share and had to wait 3 months or 50 posts in order to post it, I wouldn't feel it is worth it.

Plus, either way, spam will always be existant. If you make a post count requirement, then some will just spam stupid comments which cause mods more work to delete. What's worse, a couple of spam threads or 50 posts that are all, cool, what's your favorite color? OMG! Etc. 50 outweighs a couple by a lot! Definetely not worth it.

Join Date is out of the question. Any period of time in order to post is barbaric. All in all, I feel that we don't really need this. One way or another, there will be spam. The easiest thing to do is report the post/thread and let the mods take care of it.

Devoted has explained it thoroughly twice, and I highly doubt there is anyone who can make a valid point against him past what he's said, so its really not worth it, since this has been suggested already 3 times(to my knowledge), and its still being extremely frowned upon by Tip.It. :-#

Putting a join date requirement would just discourage people from joining Tip.it at all :? And I cannot stress enough how I do not think this would stop spammers (such as the gold-selling spammers). If they can't post it in one area, they'll post it in another. And someone with 100 posts is just as likely to post spam/flames as someone with less than 10 posts. I've seen people with very few posts make comments of exceptionally high quality. And I've seen people with 3k+ post count make rude, pointless comments. So the door swings both ways.

I think a clear opinion is needed on this matter.

Post count isn't a sign of your maturity, but does mean (in most cases) how long you have been around on forums. I don't mean when you have 1K+ post count, but if you have 1 post or 50 post mostly the person with 50 posts have been more around on forums.

GD, Graveyard, CD, Rate this etc. are boards that shouldn't be limited by post counts. Those boards are so general, that everybody should be able to post there.

However; Forum U&S, off-topic and all the more serious boards should be *maybe* blocked from the people with less then 50 forum posts. However in Forums U&S I don't see a problem, because there isn't much spam here. Off-topic does lack with a lot of stupid topics, but yeah, it's hard to make a decision if a post count limitation would be beneficial.

I don't think that a limitation would be smart, but you never know...