compfreak847

Interesting, total. I'll have to try it at that spot. One question: why do people always use warriors instead of wealths? Is there something that says wealth doesn't work at that spot or what?

Mod Edit:Please stop quoting posts which you have reported, as you know we will have to edit the post quoting it. All you need to do is report it, and await a moderator to take action. :thumbup: ~Rainy_Day My Edit: Sorry, I was hoping to keep him from constantly posting about his posts being removed, but I'll let the mods handle it from now on :P ~Compfreak847 It was an answer I posted many, many times throughout the thread. I don't like when people barge in making arguments I disproved long ago.

Range is powerful all the way up to 99, no changes need to be made. What defence do they have against mages? And how many do they have at level 1? I'm coming up with 2, only one of which is the best and is still complete crap statwise.

Please don't. I don't want this thread to buried in an avalanche of spam. As it is, people are forced to read the thread to obtain my rates, something they should be doing anyway. We'll get far to many posters coming in with "LULZ UR MELEEING DEMONS IDIOT LULZ", as we've already seen. Bottom line: Read and understand ALL of my thread, or don't waste my and everyone elses time with an uninformed post. Then perhaps you should look more carefully. I've already explained why I'm not simply throwing out an XP rate, it'll simply give people like you free reign to come in, read the last few posts and flame without a single fact to back them up.

Could you point out the part where I said that no one but Jagex knew about their finances? I'm afraid I couldn't find it, and I certainly don't recall any statements made by Jagex saying FTP was earning them large piles of cash.

Not seeing it. Perhaps you could elaborate. I'll re word things so that you understand them a bit better: #1: Jagex loses money when people sign up for FTP #2: Jagex knows more about their game then you do I'm not seeing the problem.

Wow, never knew that. Thanks for clearing it up, darkdude :P

:wall: Wondered why he hadn't responded in the day and a half I was gone :lol: Fair enough, I thought you were talking about his second post, referring to Specters instead of Bloodvields. But they were examples of factors that must be considered in numbers, something we already did earlier. Where is the value of experience based on range vs. melee XP? And I am discussing 400k as a non-luck method. We aren't suddenly changing the rate after 73 pages. Fair enough, I'll consider it settled :) Those were before I introduced my own rates in comparison. I'm simply saying that we didn't use inaccurate rates for 40 pages and suddenly noticed it now. OK, sorry I didn't "get" it :) I could make the same argument against you. Why are you so tenaciously trying to tell me what I meant? You never said you always used prayers for brews, and I was operating under the assumption that you weren't using a cannon at specters. Then why is your information so inconsistent? First we agree that a canon is inefficient and not to be included, then include it in your equipment. I'm not sure which "version" to believe. They aren't relevant to this debate, but they are relevant to my first post. Nope, just an attention grabber. Reasonably accurate title, but "8 page analysis detailing how slayer derives less raw efficiency from training then Armored Zombies" just doesn't have the same ring to it :lol: Least overall time when all factors but time are equalized using rates from other 'best' methods separated for XP, profit, and other variables. When casual slaying, not testing. There's a difference.

No, I overlooked your post. In response: We've tested and debated all of the major, well known methods for most tasks. The problem is that speed is not the only factor, as some believe it to be. Speed, cost, XP gained, and overall time spent all must be factored in, and sometimes there's overlooked variables that change what's most efficient to something completely unexpected.

Your not. You said you thought I was slow and inefficient, I responded with a post detailing why I wasn't. What part of that is hard for you to understand?

Yaks are stackable, dirt cheap, and buyable for min price on the GE.

So, what does this do to prevent high level RWTs? Player X, level 133 with most quests done wishes to purchase 100m from Goldfarmer X, a level 137 sweatshopper with all quests done and virtually all achievements unlocked. Sorry, but RWT was removed for a reason. Many reasons, actually: http://www.runescape.com/a=135/p=-EeKm0 ... cle_id=567 That being said, why do you need more then 60k every 15 minutes?

Most would, the area between 250,000 and 60,000,000 is large enough for most people to see fairly easily. Both apply. When we're talking about a cost of 300$ an hour, it's not going to take many days of playing to either run out of patience or run out of money. But would carry a large penalty of being banned, cost real world money, and is not required for these players - they have spent years playing for the levels, and obviously have the patience to earn their own money.

See my above response to that on the previous page, detailed at viewtopic.php?f=66&t=765267&start=1400#p6601905 Then again, how would you know?

It's a personal opinion, we can't agree or disagree with him. Just saving him the trouble of posting this :lol:

Still waiting for your numbers to differ with my cannon rates. Until then, your simply slinging opinions. Yes, I use sarcasm. It's part of my debating style, either deal with it, ignore it, or add me to your ignore list. Ok, issues settled :P

Yep. It's a truly massive amount of calculations and numbers, each with details of how they were obtained and the arguments required to end up with them.

Agree completely. That's why I just posted once saying I didn't like the direction Jagex was taking with it. Glad you see that now :P

Sorry, get you and Miner mixed up. One of the reasons I separate posts. Twice in 2 days, I need to work on that :? But I'm not talking about that. I was specifically referring to reaction time, so it should have been clear: I'm talking about when we're both standing in one spot, one spawns, and we both click to attack.

Doesn't Fist of Guthix have something like that? Some sort of visual aid anyway. Adding one of those for BA would be a good idea. Yeah, Jagex has been learning. Unskipable cutscenes are a good thing, but something like Gnomecopters detailing tactics would be even better.

But you've got to stick to the level requirements. An iron scimitar is ineffective at level 94 also. I'm just saying that FTP is fine except for the high end spells, which is namely a problem because they don't have any. Add another set of elementals and boost the requirements for the lower level ones :P

Because it's ALL tied together. Behind each number for a rate is a dozen pages of calculations show that that is indeed the best method. Any time I post something without the necessary tome of footmarks it ends up in a 3 page flame war over a subject settled months ago. Read the entire thread or don't respond.

True, but when they don't know what to do for more than 4 rounds, it's time for a little rereading of the instructions. Everyone needs hands-on experience, but some times a good read is better. Rarely. Learning where everything is on the equipment screen and the best tactics to use takes time. A video instruction of an actual game would be far better.

So are they in a good way or bad way. So you don't even know if you enjoy updates or not? Get back to me when you decide, otherwise your simply making yourself look foolish by flip flopping every other post. Since you seem to feel the need to finish every post with a personal insult, I'll be ignoring them from now on.

Gee, a level 35 spell is underpowered if you are 94 combat? Next they'll be saying that a bronze scimmy and level 15 strength is underpowered at level 124. Yay for TIF. That's my point. The other guy's saying that fire blast is overpowered, which is absurd. Which it is. Mage is hitting accurate 16s, melee is hitting frequently-missing 10s.