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Typical marketing BS. If it was a game by itself, it would be closed for loss of money. Games that lose companies large amounts of money are generally not updated to lose more money.

Adbock Plus. 'Nuff Said.

"Should be" from a players perspective and "should be" from a business perspective are very, very different. Sadly, Jagex is a business, not a charity.

43% of the average active players are FTP. 32293972 - 9729180 - 14497311 = 8,067,081 pounds for all server\bandwidth\hosting\etc. costs not mentioned above, with 43% directed to FTP for a total of 3,468,844 pounds plus wages for FTP maintenance and updates. So FTP loses around 1.3m pounds per year plus salary costs, and that doesn't include the number of members who click on the front page instead of in game ads.

FTP loses money. As an independant game it fails, and owuld be instantly shut down. FTP is supported by paying PTP membesr, and therefore exists only to reel in members, as Jagex is a business with the goal of making money. They can say whatever they want to to try and make people feel good, but at the end of the day it's the bottom line that matters. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=business I don't see "like to see people having fun" on that list. If they want to do that, why wouldn't they donate the money to a charity to help needy people instead of re balancing game mechanics? :roll: I'm slightly pissed off that your stopping the debate, just when I had you struggling in the crushing grasp of reason -.- Ah well, I'll recover. Hopefully I'll get into another debate with a stubborner person soon =P~

Define "probably true". I'm going with "probably not true" based on the fact that out of dozens of "rants" posted about this, not a SINGLE one has been proven to be true. That too. Not to mention the fact that the OP simply assumed which remark got him the mute - it's quite likely there was another, more serious infraction that he didn't recognize in the report, or additional factors that made it much worse then the terse description he posted.

As have I, I attempt to correct when there is a misunderstanding, but pointless flaming has no place in a mature debate No, because the total value is only an approximation of the best possible method for determining an individuals rate; without that, there could never be any rate comparison. My statements are in complete agreement, I've stated that several time. I have yet to see a SINGLE series of calculations by you indicating anything to the contrary. Until then, my calculations stand. Oh, I'm sorry... I thought you said COMBAT training, not range training. Perhaps you should rephrase that to indicate you didn't plan on training combat. Go back and re read my replies, I'm really not sure why your trying to peruse this angle. It would really be a good idea to read my replies before posting. Could you point out the banking times rates, or the real numbers for +10% prayer and non-cannon on tasks where it was previous proven inefficient? I haven't seen any updates since then, either I overlooked them or your simply lying. Most obvious interpretation wins, and trying to flame based on a misinterpretation isn't going to do you any favors. Gee, that's odd. Perhaps you should re-read my post, I provided proof there. Oh, so now your incapable of lying? What changed this since the first 40 pages? I do that too, the quickreply script I wrote means if I hit backspace I lose everything. Happened to me way too many times, I'm working on coding a workaround :wall: :wall:

In the real world sense: He's a computer avatar In the RS sense: It's what he's been doing its whole life. Did you think the term "bandit" meant he was an angel? In the TIF sense: Yeah, you'll get nothing but a very rare philosophical\discussion post and bunch of "lolz hez pixels u cant tell the difference between them and rl nerd lolz".

Wow, they did an awesome job with this DD. It outlined pros and cons and provided details of the development process, it should help cut down on some of the "jagex is teh idiotz" threads we see. Nice job, Jagex.

Bingo, see the new DD. They didn't want to add benches because only one player could sit at a time (waiting lines) and it would cause all sorts of graphic glitches. Jagex +1, TIF 0. Even I hadn't thought of that, guess I have to learn to think outside the box :|

Wrong. China, Germany, and Japan are 3 major countries that have higher average IQ then the US (Source: http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/many ... versions/1)

That was actually the wisest post I've seen on this thread. I agree completely. Be careful when you speak in public chat\untrusted clan chats. If you aren't sure if a comment could be taken as racist, DON'T say it. Yes, I discuss various methods for RWT and how to avoid getting banned for it (not that I'd ever do it, just a discussion) in a clan chat, but ONLY with close friends. Careful what you say, you never know what could offend.

Very true, variety is one of my favorite things about slayer :P

You have completely ignored my posts. Your trying to argue that because a mage loses to a meleer twice his combat level, magic is underpowered. Sorry, but only the levels that affect your combat count. No, you can't, because being honest not only violates their financial statements (which would land them in a lot more trouble then an upbeat press release), violates business practices, and would qualify them for tax breaks as a not-for-profit business (Jagex.com clearly states they have the goal of earning money). And I will calmly point out how that update results in more members. It's quite obvious from that past 8 years or so that Jagex's goal isn't to redistribute the wealth of its PTP members to FTP members. Exactly my point, which verifies my previous point of the risk of prayer running out. Thanks for noticing.

This is from one trip: Avansies isn't bad money at all, let alone about 1.2m range XP.

You have to be VERY careful at the slayer tower, PKers are thick there. Why would you fight someone? Standing in the wild or skilling is your best option.

Inasmuch that you never responded to the 'old post', clarification was not necessary. No, I'm saying posting pictures of your clue drops is meaningless. Soo, are you going to argue clues or not? Oh noes! That being said, I"ll try to hide new pictures - you do have a point, but being a jerk about it isn't going to fix it any faster.

[/hide] read above post....thats what. and if you don't read this REVISE YOUR SENTENCES TO MAKE SENSE. and hide that huge pic(s) Also please stay on topic.The thread is about improving drops of the dark beast, the title is a throw off to get people to read the big idea.This thread is not about how to make a clue drop twice but how to make dark beast better. Then see the second part of my response at viewtopic.php?f=37&t=791950#p6608752; you seem to have overlooked it.

Do you recall where I said FTP was losing them money? Good, 'cause neither was I. I think you missed my entire point, as I will address shortly: Yeah, I don't recall saying that either. Could you explain how it relates my point, namely Jagex, as a business, not releasing an update because it doesn't generate money for them? Oh, I dunno... Perhaps something called "financial records" might help you understand? They've already done quite a bit, all carefully designed to lure in members. The forum update is questionable, as I mentioned in one of my posts, but it certainly doesn't indicate they will start releasing updates willy-nilly that they know will lose them money. Lamenting the inferirority of melee isn't really something you need to post. Or he could just leave protect item on the whole time like everyone else who PKs and realizes that the chances of him missing the prayer due to a lucky KO are far too large. No, he'll use magic because he will have 25 attack and the mithril scimitar is woefully underpowered compared to fire blast.

That's some wonderful drops. Say, did I ever show you the whip I got off abyssal demons? Since I can kill 150 of them an hour, it means I make around 200m\h and I wouldn't want to waste my time with scrolls. Also, while I was typing this (roughly 20 seconds ago), I got my 4th in under an hour:

No, because better training programs (like I suggested earlier) would help fix the problem.

Yep, so I'm just going off the fact that the 50 or so "rants" I've seen about "unfair" banning\muteing have ALL been proven to be fair. See the thread a few days ago about this to see another example.

So because you haven't heard it, it has never happened? Sorry if I seem patronizing, I'm just trying to figure out what your trying to say :P Not everything someone says is to spark discussion, there's no real reason why I said that. It's just a remark I'd like to make, there's nothing more to it. I'm simply saying that I'm surprised Jagex would even take this seriously since I've never heard anything about racisms againt americans. I can see what your trying to get at, it's a thought. Then again, we don't know that that's what he was banned for - it could easily have been another more offensive comment in the evidence that he missed.

It's not my thread. I posted to respond to your post. Locked either way though, it seems. Invalid doesn't mean it's locked, it just means it'll either be locked due to a flame war or sink into oblivion like every other locked thread...

So because you haven't heard it, it has never happened? Sorry if I seem patronizing, I'm just trying to figure out what your trying to say :P