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So read, say, one page a day. I don't. Just those who want to argue my numbers and methods, because the entire thread is ABOUT my numbers and methods (and the various ways to prove them efficient). And I expect the same out of those who wish to debate with me regarding numbers.

*whew* FINALLY busted the dry streak: [hide=#24][/hide] And of course.. [hide=MOTS][/hide]

I did it. Why should I bother responding to them if they can't bother reading my responses? You did what? Went through your entire post? You were able to as you were here when it was made and were able to keep track of it. The ones that want the stats have not been here the entire time. If you mean that you went and read through 75 pages on someone else thread, and arrived at the 60th page whereabouts, I have to say, you have much to much time on your hands. I was indeed referring to this thread. Why would it be any more difficult to do it now rather then a month ago, assuming the length was the same?

Which no one will notice, because that's how they always are. And since they provide no revenue, Jagex could care less how many quit :lol:

Members won't switch because Jagex says that sometime off in the future they intend to update FTP; they'll switch if Jagex DOES update FTP - which they, quite obviously, won't.

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I'm not sure it's sarcasm, but I'm sure as heck hoping it is. You agreed to read the rules, don't be a moron and ignore them. Yeah, I'm REALLY hoping that was sarcasm. It was, right?

No, we did not. What we DID say (or at least I did) that experience value may vary, but the most accurate way to standardize it is by controlling all variables but time. #1: GWD is luck based, and all of the easy monsters have dropped in profit; we are sticking to non-dangerous monsters that can be easily accessed with fairly reliable drops #2: I've only seen a couple of other maxed players that can make more then 450k at Avansies; everyone uses the standard tank with broad bolts outfit. Chinchompas train a portion of combat, not all of it Glad you finally see that. I don't remember which section of which page the rates ofr each monster are; I'm simply going through the thread backwards page by page to determine where the final value of each task is. I don't have a lot of time and I'm trying to ensure accuracy, so it's taking quite a bit of time. But yes, I do expect that reading through this whole thread for the first time should take a considerable amount of time. Why should anyone take your rates as factual? It's a "you vs. me" argument now; once we figure out exactly where the differences are, we'll settle it in RS in a few days\however long it takes of side by side slaying. Rough as in there's no guarantee that XP is split exactly 50\50; it's the best possible result with the given information Again, with nothing resembling details and no way of contacting him, I can't take his rates at face value - given that I'm not seeing them and his numbers are wildly incomplete (All he provides is a very rough slayer\melee XP estimate, using inefficient methods). And no, just because people agree with him doesn't make him right or his information detailed. It most certainly has not been, and information like charms for summoning XP have not been consistent or forthcoming. You don't think so? Gee, apparently you missed it. Then again, you weren't around, so it's no big surprise. The flaming resulted from my methods used (blah blah piety is better blah blah use a super set idiot blah blah use a black mask). Odd how you didn't quite manage to see where I was wrong the first time. The rates for tasks are spread out over long series of posts, and, quite literally, through 7 to 36. There's simply that much information; how easy Morning's rates are has nothing to do with that. It's all relevant.

Like I said, all I need is a link to the thread. Simple enough. I'm not giving you any shortcuts. The threads aren't as long as this one, so it should be about the same difficulty level. Let me know when you've found it. Until then, you can consider the case closed. Slayer is far better in every aspect based on my testing. This isn't based on difficulty level, it's based on links to relevant material - there isn't a single part of the area I linked too that DOESN'T apply, whereas I'm fairly confident that the are you referred me to contains sections other then your rates.

By portraying Jagex in a good light. Good PR is an essential part of every company.

Quite obviously, I was referring to other, non-java servers :P I haven't seen anyone post that on here yet :? It's still going to take a high end server, as mentioned earlier.

Use kyatt in a pvp world; no one goes there, it's a nice 100-200k potential on top of the ores mined. And yes, that's the best spot for anything but granite XP AND profitwise.

i do see your point. what if it was a spell, that only lasted a set amount of time? So long as it's unbalanced enough to make AFK training impossible. It'd have to cost at least 500k per hour, or 40-50k per spell.

True but I'm sure they get discounts since they always have 4 or more in one locations. Probably, but this isn't a website server - this is a game server, undoubtedly requiring top end power to manage 2,000 clients simultaneously. All drop\hit generation as well as running\movement AI for NPCs and players is handled by the server; it's far more then "run this ASP page".

Then detail how it doesn't and respond to the points, or I'll be forced to assume that you have no logical response to back up your opinion and have simply given up.how about i annoy you and say no i have read alot of your posts atleast 200+ and i know alot about you just from the way you talk youll most likely shove some facts in my face and say im wrong and guess what I USUALLY AM look take your two sense and just leave me alone i do not need to argue with someone about this i wanted to know what people thought about pvp not you and guess what i DO NOT argue with people LIKE YOU and guess what i bolded those SO you AND YOU only would know this not any other reason so really talk about pvp NOT old past wild and saying all that (if you say i didnt put in facts look what i just said again AND READ IT)Soo, your not arguing with me because "you think your wrong"? Then why not edit out the first post and ask for a lock? #-o look don't you get it this was supposed to be used for those angered by pvp not people like you who put so much in and argue with the link creatorshttp://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=783809"You need to present a valid argument for your rant and back it up".So your saying you'd rather have no RS at all then RS without pking exactly how you want it? Just making sure I know your viewpoint before I begin the debate.HAHAHAHAHA you know what im gonna ignore anything you say from now on go ahead say something you always do say look i get what you mean but i dont want too simple as that oh yeah your next quote will be ignored :D a futher add on this is where you blow off steam and rant not argue Sorry, but the big bad moderators disagree with you.

Jagex won't have there own servers they will just rent or lease them from a data center. http://www.webfusion.co.uk/dedicatedservers/ http://www.fasthosts.co.uk/dedicatedservers/ Note that unlimited traffic on all dedicated servers. Normally with a dedicated server your only restricted by the server itself, the traffic doesn't come into play too much. You cache the images/models, animation sequences and so on when the game is loading. Most of the time all the data that is sent is merely a few bytes. The server then returns all the new variables and Java displays them. Your not actively pulling textures, models or other large files all the time. The loading time between sections is mostly client based. At most your receiving the tile map of that location. Each server acts on its own, but is synced up with the master server at a given time. This is why during the crash code instance servers where going down on there own and not altogether. As for how powerful the server would have to be moderately, but nothing amazing. Remember that most of the time its just reading/writing/querying the database(s) behind the game and then returning the values. About 80% of the work (if not more) is done on the client; all the rendering, calculations, etc. The 10 million players downloading 50mb at a time is bs. One or a few master servers send the update to the other servers, these then send them out to the client. Your talking 2000 downloading 50mb at the one time at most. The high end servers you linked to were £3000 a year, and that's for major countries - your likely going to spend more in other areas.

Then detail how it doesn't and respond to the points, or I'll be forced to assume that you have no logical response to back up your opinion and have simply given up. how about i annoy you and say no i have read alot of your posts atleast 200+ and i know alot about you just from the way you talk youll most likely shove some facts in my face and say im wrong and guess what I USUALLY AM look take your two sense and just leave me alone i do not need to argue with someone about this i wanted to know what people thought about pvp not you and guess what i DO NOT argue with people LIKE YOU and guess what i bolded those SO you AND YOU only would know this not any other reason so really talk about pvp NOT old past wild and saying all that (if you say i didnt put in facts look what i just said again AND READ IT) Soo, your not arguing with me because "you think your wrong"? Then why not edit out the first post and ask for a lock? #-o look don't you get it this was supposed to be used for those angered by pvp not people like you who put so much in and argue with the link creators http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=783809 "You need to present a valid argument for your rant and back it up". So your saying you'd rather have no RS at all then RS without pking exactly how you want it? Just making sure I know your viewpoint before I begin the debate.

Then detail how it doesn't and respond to the points, or I'll be forced to assume that you have no logical response to back up your opinion and have simply given up. how about i annoy you and say no i have read alot of your posts atleast 200+ and i know alot about you just from the way you talk youll most likely shove some facts in my face and say im wrong and guess what I USUALLY AM look take your two sense and just leave me alone i do not need to argue with someone about this i wanted to know what people thought about pvp not you and guess what i DO NOT argue with people LIKE YOU and guess what i bolded those SO you AND YOU only would know this not any other reason so really talk about pvp NOT old past wild and saying all that (if you say i didnt put in facts look what i just said again AND READ IT) Soo, your not arguing with me because "you think your wrong"? Then why not edit out the first post and ask for a lock?

So, how much testing have you done? Remember, it only affects RARE drops. At least 100 drops would be required to establish an accurate conclusion. Come back when you've got 200 d plate legs. Until then, you have no proof whatsoever. Oh, and since most of Specters profit comes from non-rare drops that neither ring affects, they have nothing whatsoever to do with it. Read up on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability

Then detail how it doesn't and respond to the points, or I'll be forced to assume that you have no logical response to back up your opinion and have simply given up.

Yup. http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/rose-tinted+glasses Welcome to the wonderful world of Anti-RWT, the only option other then shutting down RS. Which they still do. Oh, so in the old wildy if you teleported into a clan they would serenade you and give you flowers? Hope it satisfies you.

They are putting back the old wild. It's called bounty hunter. bounty hunter will never be like old wild NOT EVEN CLOSE you fought and didnt care about losing in bh its just a huge clan of people killing you old wild you had 1-2 fights earn you like 10 mill i mean really have you ever been in wildy in the past? I'm afraid your viewing it through rose-tinted glasses. There are clans in BH, but they are easy to avoid (just like real wildy), and PKers still use the same gear. Very, very rare to get anything better then a whip in old wild, and you rarely got those off of skilled PKers.

I love dead lift. I max over 2x my weight with trap bars, and I have a BMI of 22. Work out at the gym a lot after I get home from work. Lifting index of 4.9, not bad for how tall and lanky I am :lol:

I was under the impression false advertising would increase profits for a company, not decrease. Falsely saying f2p should be a game in itself would make some people not buy member, not make f2p players buy member. Exactly, that's why they did it. But some people seem to think that the CEO is incapable of stretching the truth to generate profit like every other company.

Your forgetting that this isn't simply a server cost, it's bandwidth and replacement cots for very, very high end machines. To simultaneously run up to 2,000 clients is going to require very high end servers, located and maintained in every country, replaced every 2-3 years with redundant backups available. That's not even scratching the surface of bandwidth - when 10,000,000 players download a 50mb+ update\game file as well as streaming 3d models and content, it's a MASSIVE amount of bandwidth required while lag is being avoided at all costs for those actively playing. $3,400 a year doesn't sound that unreasonable.