compfreak847

In an opinion-based argument over what task are worth using it in. Your point?

Nope, 59 combat would put him closer to 80-90 mage, where he'd be barraging in members :P

5/10

3/10

Has anyone even read this? Yup, I read (and knew it already). The OP already gave up, though, so I didn't feel the need to bring it up again.

Fine for me, whine about your hardware\software, not java...

Too late. FTP melee has already been killed, see the thread on it. Melee max at 89 combat = a lot less then range max. Why are you comparing a maxed meleer with 1.5x the combat to a maxed ranger?

68 vs. a level 35 mage? Lol, your twice his combat level. Pit a 63 against a 126 and see what the results are :roll:

By "details" on your numbers, I mean: What are you using for timing on banking\getting a new task? Is this standardized, or are you varying it for every task? What are you doing about rare drops? Are they being ignored in the profit calculations, then added back in using the much more reliable drop rates of other slayers? Those are my two main points at the moment, I'll raise more minor ones once those are answered. I have giving my opinion on combat familiars. In a small, cramped space like Gargoyles and Black demons, they tend to dance too much to do any significant good. The cannon part isn't an opinion - if I can do a dagganoth task in 20 minutes, the XP from a familiar is a lot smaller then, say, a 45 minute task. So you can't just lump together familiar XP from various tasks. Prayer itself implies it is a pain, pots make inventory management more difficult and occasionally require two banking trips. It also means fighting in the more crowded east side of the tunnels, sometimes requiring several world hops to get an empty world. Nechs hit a considerable amount, like other of the monsters I mentioned - it would be much more difficult to do them without a healing familiar. Basically, I believe that the huge benefit of healers\BOBs simply outweighs the extra XP in many situations.

I am still waiting for details on your numbers; last time you posted a cryptic chart with incomplete information, and promptly vanished. Charms were being compared to Waterfiends, me and kent's calculations are on a different thread. I find the familiars almost worthless at various task for the aforementioned reasons. A macaw has a huge impact on the herb drops, and I found the geyser titan's effects minimal compared to the cannon. A cannon makes for a very fast task and quick kills, preventing the summon from 'locking' onto a task. Black demons are a huge pain with prayer, as your are forced to use it or go to the extremely cramped area on the west side of the tunnels. Ditto applies to bloodvields. Dust devils are about the only task I use a combat familiar on. I have a hard time with gargoyles; what's your outfit? My proslete never seems to stop their attacks very well. I couldn't see myself doing nechs without a unicorn. Abyssal demons are a bunyip monster. Suqahs are very fast, and the respawn rate is the main limiting factor.

0/10 :?

Gratz, my goal later on :P

7/10, not sure what it is but it looks cool :P

No junk whatsoever that can be made faster then cash. Do avansies, sell the bars, use the GP as junk. You'll come out far ahead.

4/10

Lies. It's a road. Think peaceful painting, quiet and natural :P 6/10

Nice to see you back on tip.it. No, your not, I think some people caught wind of it when it was in the earlier replies :P

[bleep] yes

The difference is that I have well over a thousand hours of XP to back me up, as well as logic and numbers. You have.. well, you have level 50 magic, and your ftp. This isn't a battle of opinions here.

But it aint true...

Precisely. Thank you for proving my point.

Impossible at many monsters like Demons and Gargoyles. Your arguing a 'rough estimate' (AKA wild guess) verses collected data. Supplementing food is a bad idea when space is at a premium, and I burn through far more then 'a little supplemented food' the tasks mentioned.

Excalibur won't cover for virtually all of the tasks. Many tasks like black demons are in a very cramped space, and calling a familiar will NOT smoothly engage in combat. Additionally, the fast kills on the tasks you mentioned mean your combat summon isn't going to be able to do much for your tasks. Oh, and I'm curious where this "10%" number you pulled out of your behind came from. Neither of you have anywhere close to the summon level for the monsters your talking about :|

Referring to Morningrise, who seems to be quite into the whole "experience" thing. Dust devils are a good spot for a familiar with slower killing speeds, but your lower stats and lack of piety give your summon a leg up. Monsters like Gargoyloes with higher defence and Dagganoths with a cannon see far less XP.

I have, I've spent dozens of hours with wolpertinger\geyser titan. They are unquestionably inferior to unicorn stallion. I'm still curious, how much have you tried out any of the above 3 monsters that you mentioned? "Experience" seems to be your main argument now that you've given up on a logical approach, and you seem all too happy to skip around the question of YOUR experience.