but honestly, who can do that realistically? those specs are rare and need to be performed within minutes of drinking potions with prayer and the best str gear, seeing how a berserker ring is like 2m? or was.. thats a bit pricey to run around in, now im sure it happens but not EVERY person does that. honestly the DDS in pking is a great weapon, but ive seen others do better, again its all about luck, i saw some guy pull off a 47 ko on another 120ish player. rare, but extremely effective. the dragon dagger specs like that are very rare, but we all have done that or nearly that. Imo a dds has the best mellee spec and i said up to for a reason. I mean i would rather have four chances to hit more than twice as much as usual than shove someone backwards. Most of the time a dds is more accurate than a d mace too. I take it that is what the 47 k.o was?[/u][/b]