Ren

Very interesting..Congrats at getting Jagex to take up your HP idea. Some stuff is good, other stuff is not so much, but really isn't a bad suggestion at all. Wish Jagex took more of this into consideration though..

Also, would it be possible to obtain, say, 3 easter eggs on ge, and add money for a party hat (purple/green/yellow)? If so, how much cash would I have to add to obtain one?

Wow, thanks for the detailed posts! And the info on party hat prices is definitely helpful. Might I say that so far, starting from ehh..68k and a few level 30 skills on a crappy character (started it 'cuz of bankspace issues on this acc), I have so far accumulated an item and gp value of 2.2M, and spent a fair amount of time and money on leveling skills. Currently 323 to 610 total level in 6 days, on my average playing time. With a character this low, I am amazed that I made that much money already. I'm nearly positive I won't have trouble getting a partyhat eventually (on g.e. is what I'm mainly hoping for), so long as I don't get bored. This is moreso a personal goal for myself, to see if I can do it before I cave and get P2P/quit runescape. I'm trying not to atm, and doing a fine job at that :). Again, thanks for all the details and help. Didn't know RCing was going to be that much money/hour.

It was a punch in the face, indeed. However it's kind of bug abuse. Like how prayer flashing is/was. Anyways, I have a small feeling/hope that jagex will increase the speed that spells are cast overall, to match that of shortbows on rapid. If this is so, then I don't think mage will need as much of a damage update as before.

I was wondering how I could encorporate Cabbage-port into water crafting..Did not think that was as fast as Lumbridge at all. Seems to be faster. Can you please test out banking @ Lumbridge using Lumbridge teleport, and/or a combination of Cabbage-port'ing and Lumbridge teleport? Amazing guide, besides my request :).

I really don't understand your last bit. I don't think the GE would work if it was like that, for one. And for two, wouldn't it be the same thing, one trade being 500 to 500 and 475 to 525? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, maybe this is info I need to add to my thread.

You want F2P mage to be fixed? Here's a few ways it could be without adding a bunch of lame spells. Casting time changeability: Be able to switch between chargeup spell (does 20-30% more damage) or quick-cast (20-30% faster casting) Just making spells overall cast faster. Lower some spell's maxes and then make a new rune, OR increase all spell's maxes so that 1 spell higher doesnt add just +1 damage Release mystic OR splitbark gear to F2P Release wave spells to F2P Most can be done, should be done, but probably won't be done. Because Jafex is Jafex.

OK, this guy doesn't know that much about PKing. HP is amazing to have depending on what the average player you're fighting can hit. However, most SW products are better off (in f2p at least) because their max is a lot higher than yours and they dont really need more than 65ish HP. I will also respect you a lot less for being a SW product. Your pure is fine for F2P as far as I'm concerned. The only thing you want/need to improve on is stats obviously, but you can pk fine with that. I have a 10 def pure (because I did not like 2 defense at all, thanks to jagex's mage update once, then they change it to being much less possible to accidentally train def with mage..jerkoffs..). It wrecks F2P most of the time, I don't have much trouble with Sw products and they're my biggest enemy besides rangers that hit rapid 13-15s. You shouldn't really have gotten prayer, since it's not useful to have until you can access the monastery for easy prayer restore. And the 15% prayers do not affect range or strength on F2P at all until level 84 range/strength. Before that, getting that level prayer hurts you. I've done the math and whatnot. My black pure's stats: 40 attack, 80 strength, 10 defense 72 hitpoints, 69 range, 31 prayer 63 magic, level 63 combat (just got because of 79 to 80 strength) I can pk with range quite well since my strength is ok, and i hit 11s fairly rapidly (70 range is 12's). Just remember not to get up prayer unless its 31 and you have 73ish str. Otherwise you won't really benefit from it, and even then you wont need it.. Also, being pure means being the most capable of dealing good damage for your level, try to keep hp low if you want to get mage. I personally need higher mage on that 10 def pure because I don't hit well enough on armored bounty hunter targets. I don't use PvP worlds often because most of the time, people will either be too high a level, or run/teleport all the time. Also: Aim for the new max hits for what you'd be pking with the most, maybe even by 2 levels. So go for 63/74/83 strength, 71/78/85 range. Try to keep your mage up with one or the other, or both, whatever. It helps if you want to kill armored targets, and is good for when people want to mage you (hardly ever). If you want defense, get 10, i destroy 5 and 20 defense pures quite quickly. 30 defense pures at 65-70 combat are craaaaazy, you have no idea how bad they kick [wagon]. I think that an addy pure will be my next one. I can't say much about 40 defense, since my rune pure is not trained enough to really pk well. I will try to pk with him once I get 55-60 magic and 63 strength, here are his current stats. 40 attack, 56 strength, 40 defense, all with dragon slayer done 1 range, 31 prayer, 43 magic, 46 hp The reason behind 1 ranged is that I do not want the HP exp from range until it will not give a significant amount for me to lvl hp. And even then, I am only training it to 40, so I can wear more mage defensive gear for target killing. The only reason this character has prayer is because I had made it as a second main when my actual main had a full bank, then they made 68 f2p slots for bank. So I converted it into a mediocre 40 def pure. When I converted it, I had forgotten about prayer, but figured this was ok for target killing.. I think it will do amazing, but I'm not sure how many people will want to fight me, lol.

Max hits are (at least) 1-2 damage higher. I've been able to hit 230 w\rune scim and 280 w/rune 2h at 80 str potted and str praying on F2P with str ammy. Whereas before it was just 21 scim(210 now) and 25 2h(250 now) I am thinking that maybe P2P's max bonus dmg is a bit higher because of how much more % bonuses and +str they can get.

Job, Working out, Smoke plant, Become a regular at a place where you think people might like you (card shops, arcades, game stores with pay to play consoles/pcs), (hard one) get back together with old friends and/or classmates, it can benefit you but is extremely hard to do..at least for me. Yeah, that's what I do/plan to do, and I'm almost in the same situation, so.. Best of luck.

I hadn't thought of that, but you're right. Brilliant. =D> The money used to buy skills was never part of a trust fund from anybody's rich parents or some random luck (Olly aside <!-- s<3: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_love.gif" alt="<3:" title="Love" /><!-- s<3: --> ) like winning the lottery. Buying ore with money from selling logs is entirely logical. Thank you for showing me this. :pray: Olly just steals other people's chances at luck.

Well, I suppose it doesn't take long for reputation to get flushed down the toilet.. I'll take it as a heads up, thanks.

Wonderful suggestions! I'll keep all of these in mind and explore other things, then. Also feels nice to know someone has a large amount of moolah on F2P, congrats on that =D> .

So far I like the thought of using PKing, mining gold (if its actually that good) to 85, then doing runite mining all together.. But I still would like more suggestions. :thumbsup:

:thumbdown: This is what I don't want posted anymore. Kthx, people.

OK, I'm in pursuit of a Purple, Yellow, or Green partyhat at most, and at least a Disk of Returning. I was wondering what the best way to go about achieving money for this would be. Or at least some creative ideas as to how to gain money on F2P, that way I can somewhat create a method my own way or something.. I have 15M cash, and my stats are at the bottom. I really don't intend on flipping for it, even if it is the best guarenteed way to go about it. I'd rather use my account to get the money, not the G.E... Please don't say "well ur screwed noob, no chance of getting phat that way", not that it really matters what you think. I just don't want spam on my thread.

Its probably little hard to explain but, in "the good old days" in falador east bank there would be buyers and sellers (generally of ores) all trying to get the best price, a buyer might start with buying all x for y price, then a second would usually respond with also buying all x for y + 5, the sellers then take their pick. This forum moves quite quickly thankfully its not RSoF (BUT THAT'S AN OTHER RANT) but does any one honestly trawl page 5? Me neither.... Also trying to clarify not bumping. =) Ah, thanks for explaining that. I get you now. Yeah, that would be kind of neat to have again. Also, since I'm not entirely up for using brain power atm :sad: , does anyone know if this is at all related to this problem: I put up a sale of 10,000 iron ores for 200 each on the G.E. (mid price). It does not instantly sell. I get mad, so I put it in for minimum price on the G.E. It instantly sells for the mid price. I am not sure why this even exists, and seems to mess up something. But like I said, I can't think right now, so I don't know if that's the reason I don't understand it. Lol. Either way, responses to this and anything about thread are greatly appreciated. Thanks guys. :^_^:

Ok, I'm F2P so I probably won't be able to have that cool of max hits but I'll post some. Also, so far, I've been able to hit 1 or 2 damage higher than I could before (my max was 21 rune scim at lv 79 strength with maxed str bonuses, now hits 220-230 so far). So I'm thinking that members will have much more fun knowing that they might hit ~5-7 higher than before? I'm not 100% sure that it will be that high, but I figured that since you can get more str bonus on P2P, you should get more than that 1-2 bonus damage that I've gotten. Good luck and I hope to see some D Claws pictures soon! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I've never tried to play GOP myself, so I can't say much. I've heard it needs some revamping already, though, and I know for sure that NOTHING on RuneScape should have a 50/50 sort of situation, so that needs to be fixed. Some of your post (what I could understand) sounds ok and would probably definitely make the game better. Now to get JaFeX to read it...Lol.

because OP can clearly see it is a minefield. But more productively, # Introduce optional auctions, restore the open call bidding ah la Falador east bank # A function that allowed a player to see exactly how many of a certain item had been traded in 30/60/90 days # A function that tells you how many other items, of that type are also waiting to be sold at that price. Thanks for supporting me <3: . As for the rest, I'm not sure what you mean by the open call thing, because it doesn't exist unless I'm reading something wrong. And I'm not trying to be an [wagon] about bumping, but I don't really think it's all too fair to let a good post die out just because people don't want to post. I feel like if I let it go too far it will be forgotten, and seeing as this is a huge deal (the way I see it..), I don't want that to happen. Either way I was asking a question, not bumping my post.

Now all they need for Super Mod is that 'ren' kid that's been surfing the forums.. We should just get him V& irl and beat his [wagon]..He's far too cool for life. But really. Grats to both. Racheya has a very very hot sig and avatar though..Buckets will be needed... :grin:

Well, TBH, when I first read the title, I thought 'oh kewl a discussion about pvp', but then you said bh on every world..ehh.. Idk about that. BH worlds work fine atm. HOWEVER I do think it would be a superb idea to give any player with viable stats to kill/defend from another player the ability to hit a button that says "Enable World PvP" with a warning saying "You are about to turn on World PvP!! This means that players within your combat level will be able to attack you anywhere! Are you sure you want to do this?". THEN I can see a 'PvP on every world' happening. Fairly simple, would make RS interesting in a different way, entertainment wherever you go!! Ha-ha! Thanks for making me think of a very win suggestion..

GP for Rs Members credit..hm.. Maybe if it were a limited amount of times and only a few days or something, then it would make sense. But besides that, very dumb idea..

So you really think the whole reason F2P wanted skill capes was because they could not wear them in the first place? Heh..gotta love the stupid ones.

Well since I have a headache atm, I won't read all of it. But what I have read sounds pretty good. They could totally make something of ashes. However I don't see melee equipment (unless it can break eventually, think of barrows) as being made from log ash.. Maybe if there was a way to use this ash in more skills outside combat, it would be an ok suggestion. But like I said I haven't read much.