Ren

Location: Just outside the Southwest corner of West Ardougne, near the wolves. Pic: Edit: Adding in new/unlisted Lumbridge Swamp scan clue: Description: West of the Giant Frogs jumping stones to Tears of Guthix. How to get there: Lumbridge cellar, head south towards Tears of Guthix and go west at the rocks. Scan. Picture of area: Picture of map location:

Pm me if you want to know, I'll be respectful and not leak it publicly.

Oh I can see it now Grim @_@ ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DROP OFTEN!!!!!

Sometimes I really wondered what goes through a player's head as they post.. Now I don't care.

I don't think that it's 100% bots, I think it's a majority of bots. Granted, you can say that it's a clearance of the hiscores and doesn't really show that x amount of bots were banned at once right then. However, you can still say that the bans occurred at some point, and are apparently active at that point. If you maybe made averages of increases based on this and knew exactly how many actual players start new accounts you could get a real figure? I really don't know. If you're implying it's possible to identify bot population at all without being Jagex, I'd say you're kind of reaching the impossible. I keep seeing the 'bot-free' sort of discussion come up a lot, but obviously it's not really possible. They just aim to kick down the rwt aspect of it a ton, or at least make it so the bots don't "rule rs" if you get what I mean. (in my opinion anyway) Also, lmfao @ the first line theory. Loving it. Thanks for posting and sorry for no response. Gladly taking any views on it guys, it's all speculation and curiosity after all. Edit: The trend part was supposed to be shown in my first pic comparison to the 2nd? :S I thought it was pretty apparent that the growth in players is higher, and the amount banned (or just removed, whichever works) is a little higher as well. I'm really not sure what exactly is going on but only Jagex or mass botting networks of rwters would really know I think. Even then they might not know what exactly is going on I guess. ------- I realised I haven't addressed the recent ban of high-profile rwters and rwt networks yet. I find that Jagex definitely stepped up and did something good with this, and have shown that there is -something- being actively done. The F2P hiscores return makes me happy as well, and I honestly think that Optimus (at this point anyway) would just help reduce the effort behind all the anti-bot anti-rwt things Jagex tries to do. It's probably not as easy as one would think to just mass wipe suspected botters and not piss people off. I, however, think they should be a little more merciless when it comes to that area. Good for Jagex, glad they killed off Smokin Mils (specifically this rwt network, huge if you know about 'em.).

Is there anyone lucky out there that can post on this thread to give moral support for glacor campers? This is making me sick, thinking about how bad glacors must be.

And there was much rejoicing. -Myself, seeing as I destroyed my 100% f2p account to make a turm zerker. Wee... Edit: just realised that I have about 16 or 17 other accounts untouched and really want to work on them, this might give me a chance.. *hopes for eoc delays/putoffs/destruction*

Sounds good Rainy. Since Akrisae isn't random prayers and just whatever you dealt x damage with last, you could use range/melee as a good combo vs. him. As for void comments, have you even tried getting it? It's a pain in the ass, takes about 6-7 hours with full wins. That's timewasted and that gear (idk if this is true in beta) has a huge offensive bonus. I can totally understand complaints regarding that, because there's not much replacing it (nothing actually) if void has an offensive bonus. (lol @ Jagex..) Regarding pures discussion.. If you've played a game solely for one area, and everyone else was also pleased in their own department (shut up, pures never bothered you) of the game, why can't they be mad about it? Please don't be dumb about discussing this, it's getting really frustrating hearing responses that are just "Get used to not being able to play that way." or similar.

^^That would be pretty useful in the sense of research being conducted. People could lie about whatever they please as well so it's kind of blegh. Then gathering any data of any sort doesn't matter, honestly. Let's stop gathering data please, this is dumb enough already just because it relates to the SoF. And to all who say that people are trying to justify buying spins, I'll agree without doubt. You don't need to research this for reasons stated above, along with the fact that on a day-to-day basis of 2/3 spins, it really does not [bleep]ing matter that much what you're gonna get. You also help support the squeal of fortune by doing this, congrats to you. PLEASE JUST MAKE LIKE/DISLIKE BUTTONS FOR TOPICS, KIM. PUSH IT FORWARD PLEEEEEEEASE..

Tip.it has created something that is likely the most useful thing I've ever seen (for this era of Runescape, anyway) in terms of discussing Jagex and their intentions, acitvity, and their financial goals. My opinion may vary from yours, of course, so take that first line with some Morton's :D. Anyway, I had come across and contributed to a few topics regarding Jagex's finances, bots in general, membership and microtransactions. A small part of it was the bots, but I think at this point I could start a separate post for it. Here's a pic of Tip.it's http://open.tip.it/high-score-stats Check the dates on it for references on when my pic was taken And one of the last 24 hours' updated graph: What I said when I posted the first picture originally: The most recent "bot bust" would be the 730k-ish accounts removed from the hiscores as shown on the 2nd picture. Aside from that, drop-off points currently show about 150k players removed from the hiscores. The peak number of players on hiscores in the first picture is about 1500k~. Again, on the 2nd picture, the peak is a flatline 2M+ accounts available to be shown on the hiscores (the limit is 2M period). As I thought, and still assume, Jagex is banning only what is absolutely necessary, and over the past 3 months they have allowed at least 200k accounts by based on the lowest drops on each pic. Of course, not every account there is a bot, but I don't think I'd believe 200,000 new NON-BOT players have subscribed to Runescape in the last 3 months.. Beyond all this jibber-jabber and opinionated bullcrap I've posted is some actual info. What is Tip.it's forum users' take on it, and how do you feel about the situation(s) involving bots? Edit: sorry for the messed up pics/urls. Haven't used Tif in a long while, and this new crap is bugging out on me.

Sexyyyyyyyyy, where'd you find it?

No, Jagex is retarded. Everyone knows that once the Gowers of power left, RS got [bleep]ed hard in every sense. Edit: Idk if I could find it, but it's likely classified as encouraging others to break rules. I may be confused..

I'm looking for something Lord Paul posted a while ago. Despite searching tip.it with numerous different text titles, I cannot find it for the life of me. Here's a pic I took of it a month or two ago: If someone could find the botometer for me, or if a forum mod has the link/location, POST IT PLEASE! Very interested, ty. Edit: even if a forum mod can't find it, can you change the topic name to "Tip.it's Runescape..." etc, I forgot to add in that it's a RUNESCAPE high score population table.

i know how they feel. M8 the 0 gives you more character.

Someone beat me to making the first non-confusing post. Edit: Why is that even debated, whether or not it adds to max or your min dmg? It's definitely max, I'll agree with Hedge. Why would your MAX damage go up in Kuradal's dungeon, which is proven true, when the ring (according to you) adds to min damage only. It doesn't just add +40 to base then increase your max. That's a lot stronger than just +40 max.

Retard Jagex.

I'm almost positive this isn't rare at all. It looks like a hunter or strength pendant, and isn't prized.

Was doing Black Knight's fortress quest, and a few interesting things came out along the way. Specifically for Witchery <3: .. And 2 *really* interesting armor sets. I wish we could actually have these..

That real-life pic of Huzma just screams "Gangsterrrr!!"... T-T

Comp capers SO MAD. 13 kills in when I was searching for goblin mail drops, attempting the +6 qp from Goblin Dip quest.. G F. Edit: Grats Lioness on your goal :o. Didn't think you'd actually pull it off.

Put in the code for a 30 day card 2 days ago for a new member acc. That would've gotten me 4 months at that rate. This is cool.

In the words of the almighty Bladekill133, "This discussion is now dumb." Why was this even posted, and how is it not locked?

That is a huge headstart, man. Thanks so much. Gonna start a list I suppose.

How about now..?

Been trying to find a good turm zerker/proselyte pure guide. I need to know all quests, and/or the thresholds for def xp. The rest I can take care of myself. Post what you can, all is appreciated. Thx!