BTTF sounds like me. thats almost the exact same situation I have with a girl I like (exept we've known each other for 2 years instead of 7).the guys she talks to are jerks. Its like they say: nice guys finish last. :( also .Trapical, this is probably the best thread iv'e read in OT, (actually left room for real discussion, and had some really interesting points) Im really looking forward to the rest of them . :D