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Yes. And a rapist.

So essentially OP's argument boils down to "this is my opinion and anyone who disagrees is a moral nihilist." Gotcha. I'm still waiting for you to explain why I can't up the ante on your analogies; you have no right to set the "moral parameters" of this argument, so to speak. If you can claim that botting is akin to cheating on a test, I can claim that botting is akin to rape. What's the difference? :rolleyes:

i.e., botting in a game makes you a moral nihilist and a rapist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man :wall: All_Is_Great-- you can't make comparisons like that. It just isn't logical. Just proves how rediculous that question is, doesn't it? Same goes for Obt's question. I can agree with his "Prove cheating in a game leads to a less responsible adult, etc", but his last question just didn't make any sense at all. Wait, a question of assigning morality to rules is somehow related to your strawman argument? How so?

I bet they botted their straight A's. Intelligence has no link to morals so that is a pointless thing to bring up. As somebody said a page back, it is desensitising people to cheating. It doesn't suddenly make somebody a law breaker, but if you spend enough time somewhere cheating, lying and scamming, it is logical that will have some effect on your morals elsewhere. Also, prove that botting is inherently wrong and not just wrong because Jagex says it's wrong. Umm what? Prove that murdering is inherently wrong and not just because some dude came up with the idea of the right to life. :rolleyes: Are you comparing murder to cheating in a game? My god, what is wrong with you people? EDIT: LOL, now comparing theft in the real world to botting in a game? For my sanity, PLEASE try to at least attempt a coherent, logical argument.

Oh, so what you're saying is that your analogies are totally okay because they fall into the parameters that you set for this discussion. So as long as I compare botters to people cheating on exams rather than rapists, you'll take me seriously. :rolleyes: Sorry, but you don't get to set the bar; if you claim that botting is a reflection of deeper inherent immorality, you're going to have to accept that your argument includes comparing rape to botting. But this is all trivial considering you have yet to prove that there's a correlation between botting and morality. Really? I enjoy killing stuff in Runescape. I must be a sociopathic killer in the real world! I mean, you've gone as far as to call botters rapists, so I guess it's okay to accuse slayers and monster hunters of killing people/animals IRL, right? But in all seriousness, I'll reiterate that you really need to step back and re-evaluate your reasons for playing this game. You're clearly not just playing it for fun if you place so much value on it that you'd accuse people of being morally bankrupt for . . . having a computer program . . . run laps for you . . . on a pixel agility course . . . ($*#QY%*Y$HUOQTH%JTJHYHRTyy45^^????????????????????????????????????). What? No, I expect people to have some [bleep]ing fun when playing a game. Is that such a difficult concept? Fun? Game?

So what you're saying is that rules are inherently morally righteous because they're the rules. Nice logic fail. :rolleyes:

I bet they botted their straight A's. Intelligence has no link to morals so that is a pointless thing to bring up. As somebody said a page back, it is desensitising people to cheating. It doesn't suddenly make somebody a law breaker, but if you spend enough time somewhere cheating, lying and scamming, it is logical that will have some effect on your morals elsewhere. Prove that botting desensitizes people, morally. Why is it okay that you can throw around such accusations without proof? If I didn't know better, I'd think you're just trolling. Also, prove that botting is inherently wrong and not just wrong because Jagex says it's wrong.

I enjoyed that story, Biolce. Interesting scenario.

Two things: 1) Proof? 2) How can you compare hurting people in the real world to having a computer program run laps around a pixel agility course in a game? And why do your examples of poor morality end there? Surely those twisted, degenerate souls who bot must also be rapists and child molesters! I once saw a green dragon bot, and I have no doubt that he also sells speed to 14-year-old kids and cheats on his wife! Like it or not, there are most definitely aspects of this game that are so mind-numbingly boring that I would honestly say that bots are completely justified in some cases. I would probably bot agility and mining if I was guaranteed to get away with it without any repercussions. And before you say something like "BUT OBATRION, OFFIC WERK IS ALSO B0RING SO WHY NOT U B LAZY THERE 2 AND CUT CORNERS BECUZ IT IS BORING AMIRITE?!2?@@," keep in mind that, once again, you are comparing the real world to a GAME. I play Runescape to have fun, and though I wouldn't compromise my account for any reason, I do not blame people for doing it. Of course, I don't have any respect for botted skills, but that's another matter altogether. Now that I've admitted to being a sympathizer to botters, feel free to call me a moral nihilist. :rolleyes:

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Probably one of my best floors.

MEDAL PL0X

Does anyone know the fastest 5:5 large floor time? Some legendary Keyers of Olde did 15-20 minute floors consistently, or so I hear. They all got 200m exp and stopped dging, though.

This. I rarely stop to pick up food. Also, you can avoid Shadowforger's ranged attack by moving. It's a non-targeting AoE attack, so if you're meleeing, just pray melee and run along Forger to avoid the green splats. When hexing you do the same thing but standing back and praying magic.

Wow. :shock:

>Defending in BA. >Relaxing. No.

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This intrigues me. Are the demons' weakness to stab negligible, then? They're not weak to stab.

Very cool. :thumbup: 120/10. What are your four binds?

Primal rapier or celestial staff over primal gaunts I think. ;)

I'm inclined to say that you'll make more money at TDs if you stick to it. You should really get a whip, though. You'll also get effigies and blue charms.

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