Carl

I don't like the idea, but it would increase usage. I'm of the opinion that if there's no pain, there's no gain. I'm not a skiller, at all. I detest every form of it, but I'm part of a community. As a member of that community, it's my duty to put aside what I want to do to assist with gathering resources for an hour or so each week. I wouldn't care if we didn't get any XP, it's a community effort. As much as I hate going out of my way to mine in the citadel, it's what's necessary for the whole clan to progress.

It's a shame, the lengths people will go through... I'm glad to see he has quite a few stats rolled back. Although a ban will surely be more beneficial. Any idea of his training spots/world? PM me.

You're basing that off of RuneTracker? Seriously? Tezz doesn't bot, and wasn't rolled back? I'm just after having a chat with him now, lets not try and mislead the people 0siris. He's saying that they GAINED ranked despite having no experience thus people higher than them got banned/rolled back. He wasn't accusing anyone of botting. He was misleading no one just making an observation. Oh wow, my bad! In that case I do humbly apologise, didn't re-read before replying while using my phone! Sorry 0siris.

You're basing that off of RuneTracker? Seriously? Tezz doesn't bot, and wasn't rolled back? I'm just after having a chat with him now, lets not try and mislead the people 0siris.

This im aware of. They've posted before here. But tell me, what's going to be said to someone who's posting Alexa graphs? "Oh hey, in light of your lengthy research we've spoken to our investors about out business structure and plan to overhaul how we as a company (you know, the company that tries to profit) work. Have a wondeful day, oh wise one ". Replying to plans to combat bitters? Sure. I don't doubt that. You've made a suggestion. Look around. Those ranting and raving at evert little update aren't actually doing anything productive by posting nonsense threads and cluttering a fajsitr for a game they don't even play?...

Why are you slagging off TruthScape? That was an awesome site (and indeed it still exists under the name RuneScoop). It told the truth about the game, although many people didn't like that. And Qeltar didn't sell his soul for Gold or Platinum status from Jagex - unlike certain sites. I'm not at all slagging off of RuneScoop/TruthScape, I did indeed enjoy some of his articles. I'm moreso referring to the userbase that frequented the site from what I remember. They weren't particularly fans of the game/Jagex, and that was a common opinion. You referring to being a fan-site as "Selling your soul" for a status...Is exactly what I'm talking about. EDIT: Oh, and your signature. Exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about above.

Nor do they read yours. Or mine. Or anything else with any regularity. What's your point? Forum's riddled with people who no longer play the game, but feel the need to add their mouthful into every RuneScape thread. This brings down the atmosphere within the forums, when they're going on the false beliefs that Jagex is taking their words into consideration. That's my point. The forum is also filled with people who play and have extremely stupid ideas and points (not you) who like to shove them down others throats with gusto. Youre in a community with a wide audience. That's why most communities have some sort of ignore feature. You're not going to like everyone you encounter. The fansite's also filled with people who play. That's the main point. If you show no interest in playing, why must you remain trying to bring down everyone else? Spamming useless threads and posting false information? I think it would be rather ignorant to think this forum should be filled with people who don't have ideas who play the game. You don't purchase seasonal tickets for a football team only to go, sit where all of their supporters sit, and wave big flags saying how appalling that team is. It's not the best analogy, but it's something similar to what's going on here. The problem's gradually getting worse, soon it will be TruthScape all over again.

Nor do they read yours. Or mine. Or anything else with any regularity. What's your point? Forum's riddled with people who no longer play the game, but feel the need to add their mouthful into every RuneScape thread. This brings down the atmosphere within the forums, when they're going on the false beliefs that Jagex is taking their words into consideration. That's my point.

Well you've never really had anything positive to say about anything RS or Jagex related so it's not a huge shock. And I doubt they would want a dime, that's like 0.63 of a penny :P Well, you're not one of the 10+ ppl I got into RS - 6 or 7 them of went on to buy membership. That was before. This is now. The new Jagex deserve all the crap I throw at them. The real Jagex doesn't read the [cabbage] you post.

You have to read my post in context to the post I'm replying to. I'm not even talking about reports. The person above me said that Jagex isn't omniscient and had to be made aware of the situation at hand. And that's part of what Jiblix's videos show. No amount of reporting can give them clear stats, because innocent people get mistakenly reported at times, so that's not even close to what this is about. All Jagex needs to do to gain awareness of the problem is login once in a while in populated areas. If you don't think they do login, and if you don't think they're aware of the situation...You're only beginning to understand. They're not operating a game completely clueless as to what's going on on it. They're in the game just as much as other people. The video doesn't show them anything they didn't already know.

But that's exactly what Jiblix did and he got punished for it, so Jagex obviously knows the state of the game, and him getting punished just goes to show how much they care about it. That's what he did, and then some. Or has your attention been elsewhere throughout this whole thread? Not demodded for not reporting, that's twisting everything around and making it seem like he's innocent. Good job.

Being against it for the sake of security concerns is being overly paranoid, if you ask me. It's not going to put a strain on your hardware, or at least I wouldn't expect it to?

Went to see Killer Elite last night. Enjoyable film. Robert De Niro didn't play a huge part in it, though. Well, he played a big part but wasn't in it enough. I felt the storyline was lacking, almost to the point of being boring. Although there were some good scenes. The cinema itself was empty, surprisingly enough. It was only released two days ago.. I'd say there was maybe 10-15 people in the room.

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Maybe 100 players who legitimately play, wont use it. Of course lots of people will say they won't download it to scare Jagex because they want to keep botting. I don't know how this program would work, but I think it will work better than their current bot detect system that detects all those bots at the moment. You seem to be missing the point - a lot of the appeal to playing RuneScape is the accessibility of it. Forcing consumers to download an official client will not only alienate players - it'll also be alarming for parents that their child is using a browser which scans through the computer's memory. It's also a privacy concern, which is very serious given the amount of information on many home computers these days (even the minute chance is still worrying, as the consequences are so grave should it happen). The point of fighting bots is to improve gameplay - if by attempting to remove bots, JaGex creates an alternate problem (which, given JaGex, isn't unlikely), then it's a complete waste of time and effort. I see bots as a symptom - start tackling the real problem at hand, and the problem with bots will be gone. It also raises the question - was free trade ever necessary, and if so, worth it? It's not a concern for those who are actively playing RuneScape and would rather it was a game without bots. It's still going to be accessible, nothing will change that fact. It won't alienate players at all, most people (I would presume) would be perfectly happy to download a program if it kept bots away for good. Alarming for parents? The fact their children are playing is bad enough if they're that age. They should be already aware with what their children are doing, and a program being downloaded alongside a game they're playing for countless hours per week's not going to raise that much concern, after all, it's just a game...Where's the worry? I don't even think it's worth commenting on it being a security concern, because nothing will ever be released if there's a risk that your private information will be at risk. I think it would be safe to say there would be no risk involved, because every aspect will have been checked to ensure it's 100% safe, 99.9% won't be good enough.

I would too, are you referring to something like nProtect GameGuard? Yes! I think so, anyway... Those who would be against it have something to hide..

Isn't there something that Blizzard, or another gaming company uses that you need to download and have running to play WoW which detects bots, etc. on your computer? Vaguely remember reading a thread about it on here. I'd be up for that, as would all other legitimate players, I'm sure.

It means more than that, especially when the word "noob" has been washed out of its meaning for decades. There's another game I play, and it's a very common term. Scrub/Noob, for the most part, are taken as the same meaning. For some people though they'll take "Scrub" as a tad more offensive. Not just a "Bad player", but "You suck."

Jesus christ I laughed... Are you sure that's what you mean? Because I don't think you mean what that word actually represents. That term used on the internet's essentially the same as "Noob".

You're preaching to the wrong crowd. Loyal players, or just players in general, haven't quit. That's just your warped perception (As I've touched on before), believing they have.. And now Jiblix? As if it's breaking news. You've stated multiple times that you've quit, but you're still here preaching on a daily basis. You've no idea what can be done by them, there's no need to "Save the game", it's not "lost". Yes there are bots and the like, but most of us aren't shoving it down peoples throats. Seriously, find something better to do, please.

Add a sub-forum to RuneScape General Discussion as "We don't even play RuneScape, but still feel the need to add in our negative mouthfuls on a daily basis.".

Sorry to hear for your loss. I'll gladly give 2M and the value of whatever else they had stolen, let me know.

They get picked because they are supposedly jagex fanboys, not turned into jagex fanboys because they were picked. I don't see what's wrong with demodding someone who doesn't like the company the work volunteer for, especially when it's one of the reasons they were picked for the position. It's not difficult to follow rules and be respectful in-game, Trollz.

Oh, so they shouldn't have done it for fear of being viewed as a Jackass company, because it's immoral in your mind? Are you serious? You've no idea about the ins and outs of Moderators.

No, I'm not playing. And no, I no longer spread word about rs -even though jagex has seen a dozen referrals from me over the years. It is shameful to go out and promote rs in its current bot infested state. I post these just to show that jagex is not getting more players from tacitly tolerating widespread cheating. If you no longer show interest, why continue preaching? According to the graph site I provided above, RuneScape is up in numbers. People aren't using the Alexa toolbar. ~10,600 people are currently using the SwiftKit client, they're not included in your graph. Your graph proves nothing for your argument, only portrays the warped views you're trying to spread.