Carl

Yes it gives them something to discuss, but if you look at it closely most of the people taking part in this actually have no idea what they're ranting about. NOT A CLUE. Most people don't even know him or the lengths he went through to get where he was. I've had a talk and I think I know where you're coming from now. I guess the main point of this incident is that to those not informed, Jagex looks like it made a really bad PR move. I mean, you'd think they'd plan their moves better if they know what kind of person they're dealing with. That's another funny thing about this, though. A multi-million pound company shouldn't have to tip-toe around one single player. If anythings taken from this, it's that people are so easily led to believe something. All it takes is some pretty pictures and video. Do you lot know if you say gullible ten times fast it sounds like oranges?

There wasn't and it isn't. If we are going to be punished for videos we upload to youtube, we deserve to know beforehand. I don't think you know the same person I knew. Cheers. Yes it gives them something to discuss, but if you look at it closely most of the people taking part in this actually have no idea what they're ranting about. NOT A CLUE. Most people don't even know him or the lengths he went through to get where he was.

Isn't his point exactly the same as everybody elses though? we all know there are bots, we all know what they have done this year as a developer. Since they released free trade they're still playing catch up to the side effects. No actually – his point is that, given the current (deplorable) state of the game and Jagex's unwillingness and/or inability to correct it – they do not deserve to be supported by their community and given "awards" – in particular the "People's Gaming Award" for "best game" or any other similar recognition. But it's all opinion. What has happened over the past few months in some peoples opinions really shouldn't "destroy" what was created by them over the past 10 years. That's judging a book by its cover, and if that's all you're capable of... LOL.

Isn't his point exactly the same as everybody elses though? we all know there are bots, we all know what they have done this year as a developer. Since they released free trade they're still playing catch up to the side effects. I would do nothing short than laugh at loud at people treating this like breaking news. Wake the [bleep] up people. You have been reading these forums for months and seen countless bot-related topics. Someone created a video (WOW, A DIFFERENT MEDIUM, WHOOSH) and it's suddenly a ground-breaking discovery. Sheep. And exactly as Barihawk stated: "As for him being removed, big shocker. If one of Tip.It's mods went off on rants about administration, they'd be removed as well.". What the hell would you expect? You don't offer someone a position and expect them to throw it in your face and get away with it. I know I'd do the same. I pity all of you moaning, I really do.

This video and the controversy surrounding him losing his status is just foolish. The fact people are blowing this out of the water is crazy. Nothing in that video is new news, you are treating him like he's after uncovering some massive secret. Nothing is different. At all. There may have been more to him being demodded than meets the eye, you will never know. It's between him and Jagex. He's went from a huge suck-up (To obtain his position) to a "Jagex hater" in recent months, this isn't the first load of drivel to come from him. And I don't think a voluntary position given on behalf of a company is something that should be displayed like that.

This is old news as far as him selling his shares, but "Fen Research" is interesting.

I laugh at the irony of people rioting using auto typers. Also, knowing they won't achieve anything is funny.

Couldn't give a [cabbage] about this update. It's a nice incentive for people to refer others to play. It's not like only certain people can "Abuse it", everyone can. As Sly_Wizard said, more power to them. I won't be doing it - I'm not an XP [bleep] or anything like that. I think the sooner people realise Jagex is a business and not a personal friend, the better. Profit's the aim.

I adore the music which accompanies the video...Truly gifted. Best of luck pal. :)

I miss the old Edgeville. Edgeville is where I spend all of my time (I never actually "Play", just stand around)...Whenever I'm online, that's where I am...And it's been ruined. Completely and utterly ruined. It's a dull and dreary place, now. Not as bright and welcoming as it once was...Thanks, Jagex.

Sorry Jagex, I've not been negative about any of your updates this year...BUT EDGEVILLE [bleep]ING SUCKS.

I'm the same, I feel all weird when it's not at 99/99... Same feeling I get when I am listening to a song on YouTube and skip a few seconds at the beginning... I have to go back to 00:00 each time or it eats me from the inside.

Wathced Source Code...Enjoyed it up until the "What the [bleep]?" ending.

That is not true at all. All of the massive dicing clans make legitimate money without scamming because the odds are in favor of the house. With the billions if not trillions of gp they deal with, randomness becomes much closer to the real 55% chance that they will win. Legitimate dicing clans stand to make much more money dealing legitimately because then they have a good reputation and thus more customers and higher paying ones (some people bet billions in dicing) than scammers who might make a small amount of money once or twice and then be known as a scammer. Okay, so player A is "Legit" and running a gambling shop. Player B, who has no money to begin with...Watches as Player A makes a whole load of money effortlessly. Player B then decides to try his hand at just saying it's legit...Offering the chance to gain themselves some money at the loss of others. You're telling me that this doesn't happen?

I'm a big offender when it comes to both of these things... I never train my skills...Over three years now and I'll get a boost in motivation for a week which will get me a 99 and then I'm bored again...Bank standing all day erryday. A randomly logging...Yeah, I'm really bad at that. Or even just being in a conversation, checking another window and forgetting I was on RuneScape, coming back to being in the lobby...Or else just force logging myself due to sheer boredom when I'm chatting... Sorry guys, if I can't motivate myself to do anything while in-game there's high chances I can't motivate myself to talk! :( Oh, and I'm completely unable to have a clean bank. I have items from when I first started still in my bank... My bank is always full, no matter what I do and it's cluttered with so much rubbish, even quest items that are useless.

Got my ticket for OFWGKTA the other day, gig's on on the 23rd. :thumbup:

From the gist of your last post, it seems like you're of the belief that Jagex are picking and choosing which "Clan" or "Host" gets in trouble, and allowing the larger ones to continue to exist... I can pretty much tell you that's not at all the truth. I'm sure they would rather none of this took place, than allow those have been doing it for a while now continue. They aren't picking and choosing victims. The main concern about this whole thing, legit or not, is that if an innocent player decides to gamble his money with one of these "Legitimate" hosts and wins...He may think it's all a safe game and go and bet money with another person hosting it and lose everything because they aren't honest. Any clan operating to gamble is going to encourage scammers and their own advertising along is setting a false image.

The problem with these "Trust games", Alex_I is that not only do some have the potential to scam, but most of them advertising their clan chats are doing so with 3rd party software for their typing...To make life easier; you know it, and I know it. This is also another reason why one may be muted while innocently advertising, because their chatter is filling the text-box for anyone wishing to take part in a legitimate conversation is hindered by the spam itself. It wouldn't be the first case where I have heard of other players being threatened to have their accounts muted... There was a case before which was discussed in the General Discussion section of the forums where one of these "Prominent" clans were alleged to be using Player Moderators to their advantage to "Wipe out" the competition... They too threatened other users. However, upon visiting this specific location for days on end to find out for myself what was actually going on...Rarely was there a moderator acting on their behalf, if you will..And they were mostly just idle threats, sometimes they would call upon a moderator but that wouild be to mute someone auto typing their chat. I'm not going to condone what you are involved in, so in that sense I can't show you any sympathy. I'll just finish with the fact that all Player Moderator reports are reviewed, and wrongly placed mutes do get removed from those who may have accidentally been muted. It can happen due to human error where the wrong player may get the "Wrong end of the stick", entirely by accident. It would be nice to know the location where this happened, though, if you can share that. :)

My clan has, but you can't use the Mining skill plot until next week I believe.

I play for those I have met along the way, if it wasn't for them I would have left RuneScape long ago... I haven't had the motivate to actively train in probably 3 years... I do something for a day and then stop, and could go weeks without gaining a single Xp. I spend most of my time communicating with the community, that's what motivates me.

I don't like the look of it, I remember watching that trailer last year and didn't think much of it at all. I playing the LOTR Closed BETA, the graphics were far superior to that of RuneScape but required so much more to run... I like RuneScape how it is. The only thing I'd like to see improved upon are the graphics when it comes to Magic spells... Giving them entire new animations would simply make the game look better... If you watch that ad, you can see most of the things done are related to using a spell, of some form, which gives for the enhanced graphics...Drawing you into the game, and thinking it's all that. RuneScape could do that, surely, but things like animations need to be focused on with spells and the likes.

Just in from Captain America...It was enjoyable, although a tad too far-fetched...But I suppose, that's to be expected in a Marvel movie. I couldn't rate it, as it's each to their own when it comes to movies and preferences...But certainly worth going to see (You pretty much have to go see it!) if you plan on viewing The Avengers. We waited around until the credits were over, for The Avengers movie trailer...It looked rather epic! May 2012 release!

Yes but clearly my opinion differs then from both of yours, because if I didn't enjoy how a product I was using was being treated by its creator, or if it was provided to me with flaws and a no-refund policy, or something, I wouldn't be using it. Enjoying something on a day-to-day basis but being unhappy with the suits behind it...and still playing, says enough. You have to appreciate everything when you view an update, and the fact that no update will cater to everybody's needs...People will always be unhappy, but still appreciate what they were given in the past.

I don't look down on them, but nor do I think highly of it. It was my first 99, I got it over a period of 6 months as a Free to Play player...And it was very boring, to say the least. I had it for quite a while, as my only 99...

If I didn't like how they managed it, I wouldn't be playing it. My opinion clearly differs from yours, when it comes to how a game's run and what we receive for playing. As I said, in my opinion, Being unhappy with how it's run, still playing and posting on a fansite dedicated to said game says that you're certainly happy with it... Otherwise you view this game as a job? Something you feel your obliged to do? If you didn't enjoy it, weren't satisfied with the product you were receiving, why the [bleep] would you continue using it? ...