Exactly. It's an achievement. A pointless achievement. thanks dj :( i think getting total lvls *looks at sig* is harder to get in f2p then p2p simply because we have less skills to train, i mean what achievement is it to get 1k total in members (average of lvl 41,666...)? none, in f2p it get's challenging :)(average of 66, 666...) 25 lvls higher, so the correct answer is 'yes it is more of an achievement', but no, no use to brag around EDIT: please note this is my opinion ;)