D Jay99

Wait do you seriously want me to post vids of sucky metal bands? Claiming someone not a real metalhead when they think differently than you is a bit irrational, right? Also if I look at most 'real' metalheads I'm not sure if I want to be one, most seem to attach more value to what band they listen to than to the actual music. You wouldn't listen to a sucky band making a sucky album, but when a well known band that has made some good albums before makes a bad album you'll listen to it no problem? So I take it you're a musical expert who is more qualified to decide whether or not a band is metal than a site founded especially for that?

Lol I must be lucky seen 4 soulgazers so far, no bow though :(

Okay it's not a 100% rule, but you get my point (which was that bands with vids usually suck, not that they usually arent metal). And I disagree, slayer got less popular because they started sucking. Besides, otep (to get back to the original point) isn't on the metal archives, and that's basically is the only decent standard around to define what is and what isnt metal.

Video of 2001 slayer, way past their prime and off a terrible album. I don't get why slayer is still so highly regarded, okay they kind of invented thrash but if you look at it objectively they only really produced good albums in their first 10 years or something

Lol no it's just really bad. Rule of thumb: if a 'metal' band makes actual music vids, they suck. Also they're not metal so that rule doesn't apply, meh

sup pro arma And wow grats on hexhunter squisher :thumbup: also

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looooooooooooool this blog

Cause I've got 4 months of membs left, trying to get ccbow first and after that I'm just going to do actual fun stuff for the remaining months. Pretty bored of it actually

I remember when I killed them on the abyssal plane with like 120 combat + superhuman str and normal super sets, found their defence pretty annoying. And yeah they're just normal monsters that happen to drop whips, nothing special

lol hoodless

sup list you suck at farm

Black coated jeans (these), classy or no? Don't really care if they are or not will probs buy them anyway, but I'm wondering what belt colour to wear with them. Would (dark-ish) brown be okay or should I get a black one? White is horrible imo. Also I've got black dress shoes, can I wear those under black jeans or is that just too black?

Personally loved gin the only time I've had it, buying that over vodka/whiskey for sure (after I turn 18 :cry:) Also most beer here in holland is pretty good, especially when it's cold. Gets progressively worse with each hour out of the fridge though.

Only goes for platebodies afaik and where have you beeeen

Nah if I do something I want to be good at it, and since div is kinda out of reach atm I'll just be using the next best stuff instead

Hmm I found the effect of leech def only really kicks in at like half health or something, plus having on 3 curses + protection pray drains pretty fast. But I guess I'll keep saving up for ccbow first then if rigour isn't that amazing, should get both anyway but idk if I care enough to actually get 92/93 dung.

That's so me, if you dont count the agonizing thing. Except I really socialize less than I want to, should work on that but lately I've just been sitting behind pc refreshing tif.

So I want to start arma'ing, got near maxed stuff etc etc except for ccbow and rigour. Which one of the two should I get first? I'm guessing rigour since otherwise I would be using curses and they really kinda suck. Whats the drain rate on rigour, same as for piety? Thanks

Well I guess that's different in america then, in holland there's quite a lot of options if you don't want to buy meat that has been produced in a certain way. And yeah that last point is indeed an important question and it really should be answered first before even starting this debate

Talk about horrible - look at that analogy. Buying food that originated in misery farms is not the same as hiring an assassin, not even close. Firstly, a lot of consumers are ignorant about the miserable conditions (or they are aware of them, but do not want it that way), whereas the person hiring the assassin is directly asking for the miserable condition of murdering a human. Secondly, if a person were to stop being a consumer of those misery farms, it wouldn't really have an effect, whereas the hiring of an assassin is completely up to one individual - they are the direct cause of it. Thirdly, there is a substantial difference between a cow and a person. So I agree with Not Trolling. The problem lies within the factories, not on our plates. Well yeah you do have a point, analogies usually suck and so did mine :P I don't agree with the last line though, since you can buy meat that wasn't produced in misery farms. The factories are basically able to exist because no one really objects, it's (watch this another analogy, watched movie about abolition of slavery last week) a bit like the slave trade really, most people thought it was okay or at least they didn't really care until a few individuals pointed out the flaws in the system and eventually even made the slave trade illegal. I honestly think we as a pretty advanced species should be able to survive without killing animals for food, and since someone has to start you might as well do it. Won't ever happen though ofc because most people are pretty uncapable of long-term thinking.

What else can you do with womans anyway besides [bleep]ing them. So yeah [bleep] women.

Except these animals wouldn't even be there if not for food production.They basically get created so they can be killed (and eaten). Which brings us to the next question, is it better to create life and then let it live a pretty horrible life and kill it, or just not to create it at all? That is the fault of the American Meat Industries, not the meat eater's. Bad practices in producing livestock isn't really our fault, because we're not the ones raising it. If we're talking about life in the strict sense, growing vegetables for the sole purpose of harvesting it is also 'murder'. But personally, I think it's not entirely ethical to raise animals solely for slaughter though. Perhaps we should find a more sustainable wild food source, certain species of fish that never stops breeding. Well yeah but most meat eaters act like they can't do anything about it. While this is technically true, buying the meat that is produced that way isn't helping at all, especially when there's other meat you can buy that was produced in a less animal degrading way. That last argument is pretty horrible too, it's like paying an assasin to kill someone and then claim it wasn't your fault because you didn't do it yourself. Playing devil's advocate here for a bit since I really couldn't care less about cows Also have you still not realized theres a substantial difference between the animals we raise to produce meat and plants? Because you keep bringing it up and it really holds no ground. No idea where but I think a mod/admin made a pretty good post on some differences between animals and plants.

I don't see why you would hate the girl for doing that. I do that all the time. At my work, a lot of my coworkers order in pizza sometimes, and they'll say to me, "We got pepperoni, but you can have some if you want," assuming that I would be fine with removing the meat or fat. I would never, ever pick off pepperoni from a pizza, mop up the juice, and then turn around and eat it. That's like asking a vegetarian to drink a cup of chicken broth, just because it technically doesn't have meat in it. And for what it's worth, while your friend EJ's reason is perfectly valid, I find that Random Girl's reasoning for being a vegetarian is far more honorable and respectable. The real thing that annoys me about it is the whole "I see the animal's tortured face and feel super guilty D:" thing. That just isn't true. It isn't like they have some psychic perception that tells them whether or not they're eating meat, nor even what kind of animal it is. If she eats a school lunch, does she see a raccoon? Of course not. It might also help to add that this person is a daoist, who believes that the "Universe" will take care of everything, and that you can sit back and everything takes care of itself. :\ It's really the whole mindset that I dislike. Another mindset that bugs me is that 'killing livestock is cruel'. Even if they have the right to live, it's silly to say that killing these animals are 'cruel', because even out in the wild, they won't die of old age with their family by their bedside holding their hands. They usually get eaten, and being eaten is usually more frightening/painful than the way they get killed in a slaughterhouse. Except these animals wouldn't even be there if not for food production.They basically get created so they can be killed (and eaten). Which brings us to the next question, is it better to create life and then let it live a pretty horrible life and kill it, or just not to create it at all?