D Jay99

Never mind the posts that disprove your arguments, just ignore those

Probs gonna end up being a huge circlejerk thread judging from last few posts :P I kinda like harrinator's (or whatever his name is now) and istolethepie's posts, and it's still a shame warri0r left.

In that case anyone can profess to be as efficient as they like. You know them, you've met them in game and thought 'Yeah right!' And that isn't the point of this thread at all, good job

HINT you can be efficient and still dont train skills you don't like

Theres a difference between a person having fun, and a person cutting maples, smithing steel bars and wearing a dfs + fighter torso while slaying. The first person might have chosen not to be efficient in order to do something they like, while the second person is almost without exception uneducated on the subject of efficiency and time=money (e: you should fish monks you make 40m from getting 99 its awesome, aka this person sucks at rs). When you compare being efficient to person 2 it becomes clear that person 2 is just wasting time, which allows the efficient person to feel he is better than person 2.

^ Cool isnt a way to describe music really. Well it's more a case of preferring interesting riffs+drums and some guy who's actually good at growling over listening to a guy wailing cheesy lyrics (all power metal vocalists sound the same) over some standard cheesy power chord + basic drum stuff in the usual verse-chorus-verse-etc structure while building up to the next [bleep]y solo. wait wat

^ Yeah same I left it in front of a gd and said so, and they were like omg why is the ggs in an empty room@ at least 3 times. And then you die because theyre not giving you any food and some mage spots you when you try to home tele while trapped in a corner without pray. And after having to relog because of monster limit, I take 4 salves from the other guys 20 salve pile because I didn't have any food at 600lp. The other guy starts complaining even tho boss is flesh-spoiler. I mean really, every time I go back to try w117 I get depressed.

Awesome point but how exactly does it relate to our western culture?

dude it's been answered about two dozen times in this thread. I'm starting to believe that you just refuse to believe our explanations This would be true if pro-efficiency supporters actually took the time to explain 'why' they think they are efficient. A few rough explanations have been done, including yours which was mostly off topic. Explanations like 'I kill things fast' doesn't really make a great debate or justify the point. I'm not refusing your explanations, and on the contrary, I fully believe that you yourself calculates every last drop of xp to the hour. I'm actually wondering why, in particular, those who answered 'no' when you asked them about defining it purely in xp/gp/time did not want to elaborate on this and what they base their claims to be efficient on. Higher average xp/h usually, as well as being better at activities. You'll probably have used a kyatt to train summoning before, but did you also lap the others doing this every few laps? Same for runecrafting. And I actually find this competitive aspect pretty fun, pushing myself to get faster. Same for slayer, way outkilling everyone else in the area and then having some guy ask you 'what weapon is that (rapier)' feels pretty good. Same for finishing fletching in 2 days with broad arrows when you know others will be spending way more time to achieve the same. It's basically a way to justify spending time on something.

Not everyone can achieve 99 Farming and think they're the best thing since sliced bread. Nice avatar and signature with double mention of your 99 Farming. Go farm you suck good luck with gop :thumbup:

I simply don't see the difference between most things, it's all just clicking and the fun for me comes from achieving something. I mean, is cutting yews really more fun than cutting ivy? It's both just clicking. Same goes for lots of other training methods, with the exception of blackjacking/fletching bolts etc since that just requires too much attention (wow I value fun over efficiency here). But for everything else, I choose the fastest option, since slower methods (at least to me) aren't more fun. I mean whats fun about slaying in barrows with whip and no prayer + just normal ext pots? It's all just the same click monster and wait till it dies, at least ovls+turmoil+cannon+familiar+spec rests+trying to max kills/h etc gives me something to do and a sense of achievement. Efficiency can actually be less boring than the normal methods that some people who oppose efficiency in this thread deem 'fun'. But of course, it's entirely subjective, never mind me getting done with my goals faster. And then there's people who use gop or something to train rc, because that's more fun than normal rcing. Might be, but it's also like 3 times as slow. I'll be zmi'ing for 1/3rd of the time and spending the other 2/3rds on something that is actually fun like mhing (I haven't done this enough though I need to start mhing more), not just more fun than the other method.

I would use verac's set it can ignore their def

People who don't shower in the morning usually smell like bed, regardless of deodorant. And besides I can't wake up without a shower anyway so I shower in the morning.

Pasta, rice, potatoes (and all varieties on that, fries etc), couscous, soup, pizza, pancakes, quiche, etc. Of course with various kinds of vegetables etc, and also I find meat replacements to be pretty good around here, not just tofu at all (http://www.tivall.co.uk/, http://www.valess.nl/). And please dont start an argument about how meat replacements look like meat and are supposed to taste like meat etc, I get that so much it's not even funny. "But why make it look and taste like meat if youre against eating meat??" Hurr that's not my choice, it tastes good, contains proteins and is vegetarian that's why I eat it.

The point is that posting that you even thought about saving it to your archives (joke or not) is pretty creepy. also there are some pics of my trip to rome to be uploaded so when they do I'll post one I guess.

Veg for 17 years and no deficients (deficiencies?) at all, hi The reason why people usually claim vegetarianism is more healthy is because vegetarians usually put more thought into what they eat, meat eaters usually just eat, like you said, everything, without really thinking about what they eat. If meat eaters would actually pay as much attention to their diet as vegs they'd probs eat a bit more healthy, yes. But I wouldn't go around claiming a vegetarian diet is more unhealthy when the article you're quoting is talking about vegans.

Last saturday I watched the latest star wars movie, also has 2 time lines. Apparently our dvd player was messed up, since the scene order got completely messed up (credits and intro somewhere in the middle), but I just assumed it was supposed to be that way since it was a sci-fi weird timeline anyway, artistic interpretation of the director. Looking bad it wasn't even half bad, this made things a bit more involving since after reading the plot on the internet the normal movie without the messed up scenes seems pretty boring :P Anyway, a bit off topic this

Always pro choice, easy to create new baby (who, surprise, might even grow up under better circumstances than the previous unwanted/accidental/whatever baby).

You might want to grow out of that phase pretty soon or you'll just turn old and grumpy in no time.

Nah it was more that his degree has absolutely nothing to do with food of any kind so his he's not really to be considered credible on this subject (or just as credible as you and I are, not a source to quote). The book part was kinda irrelevant

Eh.

Personally havent noticed a difference and i do quite a lot of herb runs

Hmm I'm quite the same. I did recently have various kinds of meat though and I must say I dont really like it better than veggie burgers.

^ That statement is just so ignorant. You could just have said 'I'm too close minded to even consider reasons why people are vegetarian as valid, so I'm just going to claim it's stupid not to eat meat'. At least then it would have sounded like you had even thought about what you were saying. Vegetarianism debate here yes/no? Or just read this thread it has already discussed everything. Lol I guess I went a bit overboard there but I guess people who make stupid statements about vegetarianism count as things that annoy me.