Not sure what you mean by "camp" velds. They are extremely easy to slaughter. The strength xp is out of this world. As an additional benefit, you get a pile of green charms. Abyssal charms also are very easy to get. It's the way I play -- I never buy anything that I can make myself. I agree with you that buying the pouches would be "faster," but my game philosophy is different from that of high level grinders -- for me, the journey is the destination. I enjoy doing all of the many varied things in runescape. I don't enjoy grinding away at one thing and buying the supplies to let me do that. As it turns out, I get all of the greens that I need on task, BUT, I may craft a lot more runes in the future, and I would camp veld for charms as needed. No question. I already camp abby demons for the pure ess. Mmk, that's a valid point. I'd never do it myself that way, but if you enjoy it, your call. They're indeed quite nice xp :P