When I was last bursting, I got around 180-190k mage xp and 110k summoning xp per 1k bursts. Thanks! That's very helpful. Were you using all charm colors or just Crimson, though? [hide=Reason]I'm trying for 137 with just untrimmed HP and every XP will count. If I had, let's say, 4.6m remaining Magic XP to be used for charm gathering, and I used your estimates, and I wanted to be extra careful, I'd say that it was 100k Summoning XP per 200k Magic XP, and I would get about 2.3m Summoning XP.[/hide] Yeah, that's using all charms. If you want to use just crimsons, it's around 260 of those. (325 xp/granite lob, so you'd get around 25k xp off the other charms).