BioIce

Just give people the accepted basics on how to dungeoneer properly - which in this case actually means learning what it means to rush/methods for keying doors - then let them find their own style of playing from there. Think of it as something like, eh, a boot camp. That should be enough room.

So, when you hear someone crying out that they've been hacked in public chat, do you believe it directed at you? If so, why not just ignore it and go on with the game? Shrug it off, no loss there apart from you having read their text. I see no point complaining about the whiners when it's a regular occurrence. It's like complaining about rain. I recently once gave a stranger 1m to toy with. (It's peanuts to me.) He found me again a few hours later with 6m in his inventory and insisted on returning the 1m. I was delighted more with how he used his brains than giving back the money, which he didn't need to do. Prior to that I'd given another boy 1m and he lost it pking in the wild. Heh.

They're only complaining because they encounter such things more frequently than before due to the game's population having shot up.

Karma at work. Do keep it up. I certainly hope you've learned something out of that lent item debacle.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Enjoy the game, Assassin. Nothing else like it. Your story is comparable to some level 3s I know who've made hundreds of millions just looting in the wild.

The gun control comment wasn't directed at you but at Stormrage and Bladewing. Think what you will of taking away any lessons from a game. I've known my share of kids who grew up on this that are more cautious about certain things now. Enough won't bother at all and continue being suckers. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

Hello there. You're in a game primarily aimed at children and thus populated by said children who are learning what it means to grow up. It should be understood there'd be plenty of whining. Just let it go. A vital social element has been returned to the game, and Runescape now feels like a MMO once again instead of a boring single-player grind. Most players I encounter are delighted by free trade. Better for these kids to learn the hard way about scams in a game than being sucked into a ponzi scheme in reality. Better to learn about how people are truly like with their polite masks taken off in a game, than losing your job over some vile gossip circulating in the workplace. Now, what I find amusing are that some supposed adults get taken in by scams thought of by children. When are you lot going to learn to restrain your greed? Hah! My own attitude toward people in the game has softened. I've witnessed so many kind and generous acts that it's almost restored my faith in the community. Well, my area of the community, at least. Sure, a good amount of the gift giving is just people wanting to feel good about themselves by helping others, but hey, that's alright. They're sharing their happiness. As for the riffraff luring, scamming, and general mischief adored by children everywhere, they'll get what's coming to them soon enough. They're not worth the time even paying attention to them. After all, look what's happened to the free botters. And kindly lay off the horse that is American gun control. It's been beaten to death in countless forums.

Thieves fighting among thieves. Amusing. This won't end well for anyone except Jagex - and the players who play legitimately. On the subject of botting, some friends of mine conducted an experiment to see how long it would take for them to get caught. One bot took 5 months to be banned. I don't think it was ever reported because she interacted with other players while botting. Another one tried raising a set of 4 combat bots, 3 of those got banned within a month of creation. All were reported. The last one wasn't touched and likely slipped from the company's attention. All these done through free bots and on separate computers - for security. I daresay the last one standing is likely on that list of 14,000 accounts to be hacked.

The wild west atmosphere free trade brings back along with the wilderness makes me glad I voted yes. Not to mention so many of my dear old friends returned and are up to no good. It's a lonesome feeling to have 90% of your friends list offline in a mmorpg. I am happy now. In fact I'm quite content.

Heh. It's too bad that you can't set whatever level you want after you reach 99 to lower your combat. (And to raise it up again you have to pay a high amount of ingame cash. And being able to do any of this would obviously be a member's feature.) If only that were a perk of maximizing a skill. There wouldn't be much call to bot for a stat reset then.

Maybe I am. What does it matter? If you frequent that site, enjoy.

That is not a problem. There's been a public backlash. You'd know if you visited places such as, oh, Reddit. Hmm. I wonder if I should cause mischief in the guild. Mayhap later I will.

Good things come to those who wait.

Turn the cheaters into DIYers? Haha, that'll be fun! Of course, they could just fire up 10 suicide bots and drop-trade what they need.

Just wait until a new free botting program goes viral. Then you'll see even more bots everywhere. Which is a pity.

No one except the truly vindictive cares at all about bots until it starts affecting how they play. Bots crowding your tunnels hogging green dragons, bots at your yew trees taking them down within seconds, bots in your minigame fouling the score. From a pragmatic point of view, what you say is true. But from an ideal standpoint bots shouldn't be allowed to exist. It's against the spirit of the game. And we can imagine and have experienced a game without them. After all, during the entire first year of the trade limits, having no massive crowd of bots chomping at your resources - that time is now a lost paradise. Jagex does care that people are botting. How they go about handling the bots is where most people have a problem. On the other hand, has anyone ever considered that botting is a symptom of broken game mechanics? Botting is done to address the boring grind. It's not merely out of greed which is but one factor. Jagex as of now is trying their own ideas to break up the game's grind. Look at the introduction of little things from effigies to activities to other diversions. Those who play legitimately, I daresay they find these new things fun to do. But it simply isn't enough since the experience rates are, in the eyes of many players, too slow compared to a straight up grind. Until cutting ivy or cutting maples is more than just merely clicking with a mouse and waiting for the resource to dry up, using a bot to do these things for you while you go on with something fun outside of Runescape, makes for a more entertaining time.

Get p2p then try and find me, mister. Doubt you will though, needle in a haystack. Have fun with free trade out.

You weren't cautious enough, Assassin. Be more careful next time.

Hardly strange. Consider if those same pkers already have their own food supplies. They needn't bother buying more if they've got enough to last them months. There's just too much food all round.

Blog phishing, eh. Well, no one lost their marbles. Not really. So well done. Ah, and enjoy the snow.

Not all of us have 1+ million rc tokens. :wink: Pfft. There's always private 5050 clans for those who don't like the click festival that is GOP. Or some botters could set up 3 accounts with 1 actual player to do the winning.

So you could effectively kill the imp over and over again and eventually get corrupt. Have fun testing it to death. Neat loot by the way. Now, if only they'd drop some particular gloves, I'd be quite content.

Who needs to buy essence when you could get them as a reward from the runecrafting guild? Heh.

Razz, The people who bot on their main accounts will always have the risk of having it hacked and cleaned out. Just look at the mass hack thread in this forum. But they freely made that choice to cheat and they should understand the consequences of it. If they don't think botting doesn't come with risks ... well then, they're idiots, and that's that. I suggest leaving p2p and just go f2p if you've had enough. Or you could just go play another game altogether. Hard to do anyway, isn't it, what with all the time invested in this game. My own limit is when they start selling items to f2pers for a cash-born advantage. I'll have found something else to do then.

It's a whole bunch of factors, not just any single one, combined together that made this whole mess. There's the noter, as was mentioned. There's the bots. And then there's the thousands of players who bought into the gossip being spread everywhere that lobsters are going up when free trade comes out because everyone and their pet hamster Henry would need food killing each other in the wild. It will take a long while for it to reach the price you bought them for. The lobster market is just saturated.