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At the same time? Rofl

But now Jagex (well MMG) can say "Unfortunately, 30% of those that voted were on newly created "throw away" accounts that weren't even played. These appear to have been "bot" spammed votes so will not count. As only 700k actual accounts voted, we'll not be re-instating free trade." Remember, this is the guy that's implying (flat out stating) that the 1.2 million votes from the "just put a name and click enter" were all legit votes, so getting a million votes with logged in accounts should be no problem. I didn't have a poor opinion of him until that post of his. Even if he does make such an argument, it's so easy to argue against. I mean, wouldn't old players have forgotten their original account passwords/usernames? They could have created new accounts just to vote, which is fair enough.

As long as the vote rate remains the same as it has been for the past 10 hours, it would take another 34 hours before 1m votes. I think free trade and the wilderness is coming back

Rose tinted glasses. What we do need is damage reducing armor/higher health (Torva) Lol I just looked up your bh rank and you only have like 500 score so I doubt your 2 big on pking. I've been a pker since I started rs and I've witnessed alot of changes and it was definitely better in the original wild in 05-07 without these weapons that can take off 90% of your health in 1 spec I rune pk around edge, mainly. What WAS is in the past. The only real change to the wildy will be the drops. The old wildy without all the new weps and stuff wasn't all that you say it cracks up to. Yeah I know turmoil and claws/korasi are so overrated and make no difference whatsoever to pvp, and obviously since the majority of players are voting for it to return we are all just riding the band wagon, pvp today is almost exactly as it was in 07 besides the drops I know this because I pk so much (I have almost 600 rogue points since the release of bh craters) I obviously know what I'm talking about Winning arguments isn't about being a sarcastic idiot and quoting random things that's irrelevant, it's about being able to defend your point, and to argue for it. With the Life Boosting armour, what's wrong with Extremes?

80 Defence bro

Lol Zaros Godsword? Wonder what the spec will be EDIT - Looking through this month, it's gonna be a great New Year

What kind of staker will be the best? Assuming that special attacks and armour aren't allowed, I'd say Corrupt Vesta's Longsword pures at 20 att 99 str 79 mage/range and 99 con are pretty strong. Or a summoning tank, but for large stakes, I'm sure Summoning would be disabled. Perhaps Zgs Freeze->Dragon Halberd, in a no range/mage fight? Hmmm...

Seems like the entire market crashed so people could have cash for free trade. If I was a would be invester the first things I would dump is my battle potions. I am so looking forward to people buying/selling everything for twice what the GE price is once free trade returns. :rolleyes: Just because the money exists and because they can. You really don't understand how the economy works, huh? Sure I do. I made a whole lot of money in the days before the trade limits by merchanting in W2 Fally. What's to keep a clan of price manipulators who all have several of X item from gathering in that item's specific buy/sell area and spamming "Selling X item for <millions over the what the price was 5 minutes ago>." When there's a group of people all spamming something, and it's all people see, suddenly the price temporarily BECOMES that because if somebody wants what they're selling and they appear to be the only ones around selling it, then that's what the buyers have to pay. Sure, your average unaffiliated joe will undercut the clans, but chances are he only has one or two of the item they're selling and therefore will sell them quick and then the price will once again be controlled by the group. Basically all I'm saying is that after these changes occur, the market is going to be a complete cluster**** for a while. Manipulation clans have gained such popularity in the GE era that I am positive they won't die out once free trade returns. The only change that will occur is that if you want something now and have money, you can once again pay more for convenience instead of waiting hours/days while the GE processes offers ahead of yours in the queue for an item with artificially inflated demand. Do you even understand supply and demand? No, that's not how people price manipulated before the GE. I do agree that the market will be very very volatile after free trade until at least 2 months in, as the transition phase.

Lol, cheaters. :shame: :rolleyes: If you're against it you can do the same and vote "no" Obvious troll. It doesn't work. Anyways, at this vote rate, it should be roughly 3 days before we get 1m votes

It's still not the best xp in the game, which is what this thread is about.

They aren't undead, so no Salve Amulet (e)

Hellhounds? Don't you mean Wild Dogs, since that is what the karamja gloves pertain to? Ma bad

Chaotic Rapier in Max Str with Iron Titan and overloads at Zombie Monkeys, with helm full of scrolls. Possibly with Dragon Claws too Wild Dogs with Karamja Gloves 4 in Max Str and Overloads, with Dragon Claws

because pvp=pvm? Or do pkers pull out unicorns and bunyips now in fight? lol bring me a old school pker, let him use a full yak of food and fight me with a uni. i can basically guarantee a 70-80% winrate over him. uni + sum pots is the best food in the game. heals as much per slot as a brew and doesn't require attack turns / lowers combat stats. the only reason they arent used is because they raise your combat level and pkers don't like that Neither of those are used, because, yeah, they raise your CB level and the fact that one of you would KO another easily before a full yak of food is used. The healing effect is negible compared to the CB boost. Hell, if a lvl 112 decided to use a unicorn and run around in the wild a maxed player with ovl/extremes would smack the [cabbage] out of him before he could even dismiss his unicorn. Summoning isn't any means a good way of staying alive b/c of cb boost. if you're 138 it doesnt matter anyway. lol. also, summoning tanks and no, if you are fast enough to use uni in addition to pneck+brew+rocktail it's really easy to safe Have you ever ventured out of W68 Clan Wars White portal before? You have no idea of how real PvP works, do you? Actually try and pk, and then tell us

Then you're not watching. There's roughly 6 people at each CT spawn on every world Yep, at peek hours. I can confirm at least 3/4ths of those to be players. Off hours we're still looking at 0-3 at each spawn... each less talkitive, wont deny that a bunch of those could be bots, but just as well they might be off their own hours and not want to talk. That is NOT 300 bots every world and one hit yew trees. I'd much rather fight a few exp bots for catches than be trampled by a plague of farm bots, wouldn't you? You can prove very little. How do you prove someone's a player, and not Artificial Intelligence, or a bot? Barely anyone uses public chat these days, so almost anyone could potentially be a botter.

Then you're not watching. There's roughly 6 people at each CT spawn on every world

Apparently, Logdotzip has a massive compilation of screenshots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIVBx_t3OYQ

I have created an mirc script for anyone interested in knowing how many days until 1m votes.... The code is on *:TEXT:*VOTES!*:?:{ if ($nick == RuneScript) { noop $regex($eval($ $+ $0, 2), /(\d+\.\d+)/S) echo -a It would take another $duration($calc((1000000 - $strip($remove($12, $chr(44)))) / $regml(1))) to reach 1 million votes at this vote rate. } } You paste that into remotes on mIRC, and you query RuneScript with "!votes" to activate it. It only works the second time though, because it doesn't show a rate until the second time.

My mind just got blown. Hard.

One GE update would make the item half in value. Plus the fact that Mobilizing armies ranks aren't valued the same as xp

How real are these?

This thread roughly 100 pages ago was amazing. Just read how silly you Tifers are about the knowledge of the UK, hilarious stuff. Confession; I have tried snorting salt before. It's not good

Unless overloads doesn't have the ability to automatically restore your levels within the wilderness, I still find it a silly idea. It would be who could jug the brews the fastest, and jugging brews doesn't prevent your character from continuing to attack Extremes should be allowed, but also introducing some good soaking armours (maybe enhance the PvP stuff, like Vesta) Overall, this is the juiciest update since 07

Most sweatshops were operated from China, using stolen credit card numbers to obtain RuneScape Membership to bot with. It is now illegal to RWT in China now, massively downscaling the problem (incentive of botting was to sell off the money harvested). Plus it's been 3 years already, don't you think they would be more capable of handling the botting issues? Bot's return is a good and bad thing. The pro's would be easier to obtain raw materials to train your levels (such as Prayer, or Herblore, for example), but the Con's would be less reason to play legitimately. If you think RWT was not an issue post 2007, then you are so very wrong. It actually became much safer to rwt after the Trade Limits, because "every trade is a fair trade" in JaGex's eyes, although the Grand Exchange doesn't update enough for that to actually be true. You could see on some sites that Partyhats are sold for Trade Price + $$ instead of using Junk. I think it's great that JaGex would keep the GE and stuff in place though, the things we all got used to. Price manipulation would still happen, as evidenced here; http://forum.tip.it/topic/91804-my-story/ Would be interesting to see how Extremes and Summoning, Chaotic Weapons and "new" special weapons would affect what used to be the old Wilderness. Hmmmmm