^This for Tk Our biggest and only real rivalry was with DownFall. And we dominated. I am certain that this rivalry helped us thrive. We achieved most active award and #1 rank on Twr in 2009 after beating DF down to #2. It came to a point where DF just couldn't compete with Tk and chose to stop warring them. 6-0 :shades: Not trying to reignite an old rivlary but you did bring multiclanners to almost every fight, and your leader was a warlord of DK. Downfall maintained members that were solely their own :s I personally can't say much about the multiclanner dilemna as I didn't pay much attention to that stuff. But, I do know that achieving #1 on Twr is virtually impossible with multiclanners. We made sure that everyone on our ML did not match on to any other Twr clan's ML However, we did have a bunch of people in Dk at one point, and Twr rules had nothing against that (Dk was not on Twr). Also, I believe that Dk was considered a "team", not a clan. Nonetheless, we eventually gave everyone the option to leave Dk or Leave us, and there DID come a time where Tk beat Df fairly, with no dispute. I also am pretty sure that Nathan didn't Join Dk til shortly after Tk closed the first time. And I could be wrong, but I think he did it because he was offered a Warlord position, where he could get some valuable experience in leading pvp events. My theory is that he was prepping for the reopening of Tk, ready to take on the wild. Before I get replied with facepalms claiming my facts are wrong, I would like to say that I am not positive that everything I said is completely right, but it should be fairly accurate.