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He won't.

For Strength training in P2P, Saradomin Sword beats the D Scimitar + rune defender combo by a mile. Since you don't have a problem with cash, buy one immediately. Never, ever use the whip + defender combo unless you like training on controlled.

Noo... what wrong witchu nub?! Ur not suppose 2 have a life! Did you put 2 spaces in "Verie__Bad"? If not this is the reason why there is no xp gain in the last week. FML. :wall: Ty, Sonic. In that case. What the hell is he not doing praying?! PRAY MOAR! PRAY MOAR! Jk. [/hide] I'm kind of surprised why Verie Bad is working on other skills instead of finishing up his 99 prayer. I'm guessing he's doing that because he is either: 1) Getting money for 99 prayer 2) Dislikes prayer, decided to train other stuff first 3) Wants to get higher ranks for his favorite skills I'm assuming it's 1), because he trained prayer among them, and his cooking might be trained along with his fishing. Though I'm surprised why he trained runecraft. He should have trained mining, for the rune ores. That's what Mauranius did. I'm assuming he is doing runecraft to profit from air runes. Or he's playing GOP for free runes. I'm also assuming his strength and HP is from killing ice giants, hence the prayer gains. Also hence the fishing and cooking. 4. he is just bored with prayer 5. wants to get max f2p together with me? ;) If it's 5 then he would already get 98 prayer now. And did anyone notice that Verie is not really active on the Tip.it boards now?

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=784101 viewtopic.php?f=37&t=784491 I don't disagree with your opinion that mage needs a SERIOUS boost, as you can see clearly in these two threads. I think I should have said this thread was for MELEE only. That's because melee has the most versatile items, which some of them are unfortunately extremely unbalanced. That's why I only included melee in this thread.

Grats. : Oh and why is RC your lowest stat? Takes too long to train. :x You should do body tiaras. I find them very good xp. If you're good at playing GOP though, you can get good RC xp and make a profit at the same time. Or, you can do earth runes with FOG gloves, that's good xp as well.

Updated first post with stat changes.

Yeah but, if you keep your tools, then you don't have to waste time going to the GE to buy your tools. That's what a bank is for. Storing items. The bankspace right now is currently too less to store all this. That's why we are all asking for more F2P bankspace. With new items coming out, we must have more bankspace. Otherwise it's just too inconvenient.

Grats on the 74 cooking there. You should now change the title to something like "74/80 cooking". Sounds better. :

Grats. : Oh and why is RC your lowest stat?

That uncut diamond... Is it price manipulators again? :x Nice kills though! And sorry to hear that you're semi-retiring. :(

Congrats! You going for 99 soon?

Being healthy = FTW.

I have a question, why aren't you doing Crafting and Runecraft? They are also F2P skills, too, and doesn't raise cb levels. Nice stats BTW! :

[hide=Verie Bad EXP gains and stuff] Noo... what wrong witchu nub?! Ur not suppose 2 have a life! Did you put 2 spaces in "Verie__Bad"? If not this is the reason why there is no xp gain in the last week. FML. :wall: Ty, Sonic. In that case. What the hell is he not doing praying?! PRAY MOAR! PRAY MOAR! Jk. [/hide] I'm kind of surprised why Verie Bad is working on other skills instead of finishing up his 99 prayer. I'm guessing he's doing that because he is either: 1) Getting money for 99 prayer 2) Dislikes prayer, decided to train other stuff first 3) Wants to get higher ranks for his favorite skills I'm assuming it's 1), because he trained prayer among them, and his cooking might be trained along with his fishing. Though I'm surprised why he trained runecraft. He should have trained mining, for the rune ores. That's what Mauranius did. I'm assuming he is doing runecraft to profit from air runes. Or he's playing GOP for free runes. I'm also assuming his strength and HP is from killing ice giants, hence the prayer gains. Also hence the fishing and cooking.

This, however, I would be happy with. If you always buy and then sell your skill tools, that would be a waste of money. You actually LOSE your money if you buy then sell back to the store. So no, buying then selling the tools is not worth it. So we still need more bankspace, until sets for RC robes and random event clothing come along.

No 10/10 rating, you gtfo. :evil: Sheesh, why do members always disrespect F2Pers, even when they maxed out? :x Anyways, Water is Nat, good luck on 50M strength exp! Will you plan to get 200M Strength exp anytime soon? :D

Congrats on the RSOF access and 77 crafting! Oh, and the Crafting Rank 50000 exact? :shock:

Noo... what wrong witchu nub?! Ur not suppose 2 have a life! Did you put 2 spaces in "Verie__Bad"? If not this is the reason why there is no xp gain in the last week.

Replace the D'hide vambs with rune gauntlets, and add the Explorer's Ring 3. You could be like me, using rune longsword to kill monsters, but it is all up to your own preference what weapon you want. I recommend the rune scimitar, though. Stats? 70 Attack, Strength, and Defence is good. Since you surpassed those levels you should do fine against them. Food? Lobsters/Swordfish, as those guys hit hard. You should also leave some inventory space for drops. You can bring a strength potion if you want as well.

That's some awesomely fast cooking levels you got there. :ohnoes: Your magic, woodcutting, fishing, crafting, smithing and mining also went past me while I wasn't playing. :wall: However... Train melee and ranged nub.

1/3 of the time. I don't get why people say "Scimitar always beats longsword" when longsword can take a go at the scimitar as well. And I only wanted longsword to be stronger because currently no rune weapon is in the "+50's" strength value.

Awesome cooking levels! I wanted to get a 70+ stat (Strength, Mining, or FM) but I am just too lazy to do that right now. I'm playing too much DS lately to play RuneScape again. KSSU is so addicting. #-o But still, congrats on 70 cooking! Definitely a worthwhile achievement. : Oh and hope you get those unranked stats ranked as well. Oh and change the title to "IlufYou's Glory ^_^ Yay me for 70 cooking!".

I'm really sick of arguing with you already. About the claws, its jagex's freaking fault for making a severely overpowered special attack. Fine, then go and change you beloved p2p weapons. I don't know about them and I don't care. Since you're p2p, make your own thread about how THOSE weapons should be changed. I wouldn't say anything as its none of my business. Spears being used for defence. In your dreams. What would do more damage, a heavy wooden stick with a sharp knifeblade on top or a short curved sword? Obviously the spear. Nobody is going to use a spear for defending when they can just take two freaking shields and be practically invincible. Seriously. Its my opinion that f2p weapons are severely unbalanced and I want to change them. So what? I didn't ask you to come and persuade me to change my mind or tell me so-and-so shouldn't be powered up. I'll never change my mind. Period. Especially for this. Forget it if you're trying to make me change my opinion. YOU brought up 13 points. I'M just answering them. I know you said you didn't want to get into huge arguments, but I'm just replying to what you say. D claws ARE overpowered. Agreed. Jagex's fault? Agreed. Should they be changed? I think so as well. You should, however, learn to read a bit more carefully. I never said p2p weapons should be changed, so why should I make my own thread about that? My whole point is that this is fine how it is. Is this none of my business? I've been f2p for 3 out of the 4 years I'm been a RS player, and I'm currently free player and will likely not return to members for a while. So is this my business? As a long time and current free player, it is. Plus if members stuff isn't your business, why are you making references to spears, claws, and halberds? Do you even know what defending in war really is? Defending isn't blocking damage, so why would you take 2 shields? What are you going to do? Kick him to death after you block one hit? No. You hide behind the shield, and use the spear so you can hit him, but he can't hit you (advantage is in your longer reach). Plus if they do get to you, you have the shield to block. Honestly, what good would 2 shields do for you? When you are charging into someone, the spear really does no good. You can only stab with it, which is too easily blocked. The only way you'd use a spear for all-out offense is if you're on horseback. I'm not here to change your opinion. You can have your opinion. On the same note, I can have mine. What is this thread? Is this thread a "support this idea or gtfo" thread? Are you trying to block every person who does not agree with you? Well I have two things to say to that: 1) OMFG learn to read....I said that weapons SHOULD get a change, why do you keep thinking I say they shouldn't?! I feel like I state this every single post, WEAPONS SHOULD BE CHANGED!!!!!!!! On that front, I can be considered a support. I think your idea is good and should be added, just not to the extent you propose, and your ideas has some problems. I'm only trying to point out those problems. Why? You think your idea is 100% perfect? You think it's flawless? You think you're so good that you can't possibly make a mistake? Why even post it then? Obviously, because you posted, you wanted feedback and supporters. Supporters you got, but your idea isn't perfect. I'm trying to point out problems it has. I know that I'm against you in the other thread about mages. That does not mean I'm against EVERY THREAD YOU POST IN. Keep what happens in that thread in that thread. 2) You have neither the authority nor right to bar non-supporters from your thread. Why? You think your idea is so perfect there can't possibly be dissenters? Do you want every single post to be "omfg i love you quelmotz this idea is the best thing in the world!!!! add now!!!!!!!!". Fine. If that's what you want, I can give that to you, and you go tell everybody that quelmotz doesn't want to listen to people who disagree with him. I've told you this before. You can't close your mind to other people's opinions. You have made this thread to try and convince people to support you. If you are not willing to listen to people who don't entirely agree with you, then you have no right to tell others that what you say is the best. In short, if you do not listen to non-supporters, that nullifies your thread as a suggestion and leaves it at nothing more than a pep-rally. Ok, now let's get a few things straight. I am a supporter. I do not entirely agree. I am only trying to correct some problems that your idea has. This isn't my thread at all. You say that weapons should get a change, but your arguments prove otherwise. Everything I say about how to change the weapons you have to disagree. Is that what you want to do? Just disagree with everything I say and don't suggest anything? Just go and make your own thread for god's sake. I never said everyone has to agree with me. So what if I hate idiots who disagree with me for no apparent reason or talk crap? (this isn't referring to you) Don't get influenced by that idiot hihihi27. He says I don't have the right to bar non-supporters from posting. I don't, and I never said I did. I just told the NON-SUPPORTERS WHO POST CRAP and don't give proper reasons or evidence to back up their opinions to get the hell out of my thread. What's the point of having them there? Boost post count? Who cares. Bump my thread? This isn't the RSOF. Waste space? Tip.it is a non-profit organisation and they don't need idiots wasting their precious space. Ok, so I can't control them. At least I tried to get them out. So to get things straight, you agree that I don't have the right to tell idiots to shut up and get lost? If so, I have nothing to say to you. Ok, let me take a shot at it now. Rune Dagger: + 25 + 12 - 4 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 24 + 0 Speed: 6 New: + 27 + 12 - 4 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 24 + 0 Speed: 7 Rune Mace: + 20 - 2 + 39 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 36 + 4 Speed: 5 New: + 20 - 2 + 42 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 48 + 0 Speed: 4 Rune Sword: + 38 + 26 - 2 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 2 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 39 + 0 Speed: 6 New: + 45 + 26 - 2 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 2 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 40 + 0 Speed: 6 Rune Scimitar: + 7 + 45 - 2 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 44 + 0 Speed: 6 New: + 7 + 52 - 2 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 44 + 0 Speed: 5 Rune Warhammer: - 4 - 4 + 53 - 4 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 48 + 0 Speed: 4 New: - 4 - 4 + 44 - 4 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 62 + 0 Speed: 4 Rune Battleaxe: +2 + 48 + 43 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 - 1 + 0 + 64 + 0 Speed: 4 New: +2 + 50 + 46 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 - 1 + 0 + 56 + 0 Speed: 4 Rune Sq. Shield: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 6 - 2 + 38 + 40 + 36 + 0 + 38 + 35 + 0 + 0 New: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 8 - 2 + 44 + 44 + 36 -1 + 46 + 40 + 0 + 0 Rune Kite Shield: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 8 - 2 + 44 + 48 + 46 - 1 + 46 + 40 + 0 + 0 New: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 8 - 2 + 36 + 44 + 44 - 1 + 46 + 40 + 0 + 0 Rune chainbody: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 15 + 0 + 63 + 72 + 78 - 3 + 65 + 40 + 0 + 0 New: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 30 - 10 + 65 + 80 + 80 - 6 + 80 + 40 + 0 + 0 Rune platebody: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 30 - 10 + 82 + 80 + 72 - 6 + 80 + 40 + 0 + 0 New: + 0 + 0 + 0 - 30 - 10 + 80 + 80 + 65 - 6 + 80 + 40 + 0 + 0 That's all. Again, I repeat, you don't have to try to tell me to change my opinion. I'll listen to your opinions, ideas, suggestions, whatever, but you don't have to order me to keep an open mind. As I said, I don't need a psychiatrist. I think I might add some stat changes for the suggestions later. Thanks for giving me the idea! :)

Yeah but those 2 capes are really cheap and crap, noone trains them to 99 for the skill, they do it for the crappy cape. Def is trained for a reason and being called a noob for having defence as a skill is stupid. Fletching or cooking isnt nooby. Having those capes for the levels / capes themselves is nooby. A 99 stat is a 99 stat, regardless of which 99 it is. ALL 99's are grinding, even cooking and fletching. I get levels simply because I want to get levels. People get 99 in skills because they want to raise their total level and rank.

I totally agree with TC. You have the right to train whatever skill you want. IMO all 3 Melee styles are equal, each to its own advantages and disadvantages. Being called a defence noob is just like being laughed at just because you have a cooking/fletching cape. -.-