Kimberly

When I first went to read about this update, the Halloween theme was still up. Now it's gone. /baww.

Before the update, they were about 300k per hour to range thanks to their increased onyx bolt tip drop. I used to do this on PvP worlds occasionally for EP and money.

Patch notes: SO MUCH LOVE. SO MUCH HAPPINESS. It's not the largest update, but there's been so many things that I've waited so long for added all at once. It's overwhelming. <3 EDIT: *faints*

Tip.it: The Forum of Brotherly Love. I hope this effort is genuine from all sides. I would definitely be relieved to hear it.

Never write poetry on the fly again. Congratulations Steeny.

Hey guys, VR just gained 50 more members! /endjoke. I can't believe EH closed.

So now instead of killing your friend to use up EP gained while 76k'ing, you'll have to kill random people? Don't a lot of people already do this? Or am I missing something? I understand that this cuts down 76k'ing quite a bit, but it's not that hard to find someone willing to die to you if you provide them the junk. This can be achieved in clans quite easily, for one. Maybe I'm just missing the big picture. EDIT: Gromhell, get out of my head!

Were they in future updates or the wrong forum entirely? o_O

I saw you advertise this in my clan's IRC. It honestly sounds nice, thanks for posting your invitation here too. :)

Oh my god, finally! How long I've yearned for the Watchtower tele to take you inside of Yanille! <3

Taken straight from the knowledge base. It plays a factor, but given how many things it takes into account when calculating a drop, it's not as significant as you'd imagine.

Getting rich quick IS a problem when you're not putting in any risk. The whole game is founded on the concept of risk versus reward, and when that balance is askew, so is the economy. The economy was better before trade was gone. We can agree on this, yes? Lets look at what happened there, though...Before, when the risk-reward was still unbalanced, but limited by several constraints (ie effort and time put in to create a successful merch/flip back on w2, limited rush weapons), the economy was better off. The more these methods became easier to acheive though, the more the economy suffered. Thus we are where we are today.

FML, I just pulled an all nighter and I'm too exhausted to do the diary! God, your lessons are cruel!

You live in one right now, most likely. When was the last time you paid with cash, when you had the option to pay with your debit card? It's a similar situation, where the concept of cash is still the backbone of the economy, but the demand is for the item, not the wealth. And like you've touched on, it's because they made cash so easy to obtain. Though I do have to chuckle when so many people say, "It's 76king oh no!" Yes, it's that. But there are also many, many other methods that pump cash into our wallets with absolutely no effort. What about Fruit Falling at the duel arena? Flipping items via the grand exchange? Merching clans as a whole? And all the various other little get-rich quick schemes that, bit by bit, aren't too devastating, but when you add them all together...76k'ing is only a slice of the troubling pie that is the failing short term economy.

Is this your way of ending my retirement from TIF? This was my thought on and off for the month of September. When I made the final final final final decision (I had many flip-flops that month), I decided to take everything from a different perspective and not blow everything off as I did the last months before our nearly last rest. Thank you, everyone. So far, startup is running smoothly, and once the big ball gets rolling, I don't see it slowing for a while. Plans on returning to the TWR once you hit 30 members? ;D

Technically, no, they never closed. But the last few months I wouldn't exactly had called them, "Alive and kicking" either. If Kyle's truly serious about rebuilding, then best wishes to all current pkm members. Coming back from a slump is hard. Coming back from the brink of death is harder still.

The TWR forum is for TWR fights only. Since TPR have not applied to join the TWR, I am moving this to Clan Discussion.

F2P'ers can access the wilderness capes, they're tradeable non-member items :D

The top 20 clans are not the clan world--they're just the people we like to watch the most. The top 20 clans would not exist if there weren't smaller or middle-sized clans fuelling the growth cycle. How 'bout branching your explanation a bit more, I'd be interested to hear it :) (If that comes off the wrong way, I apologize. I'm trying to prompt discussion and I can think of no better wording.)

I think that can be included but nobody knows the exact date. :P Announced Dec 10th, 2007 http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1007

Reopen TK and we'll find out ;D

No one mentioned the removal of the wilderness? Really? O_o I'd say that's pretty significant. EDIT: I would post exact dates, but for some reason I cannot pull up the News Archive. :| Or is this strictly for the conception and ending of clans and the rivalries they maintained in between? I could not determine that from the OP.

Just like World of Warcraft weeded out some of the veterans (who were due to leave anyway), so will Stellar Dawn, though less in comparison. I'm personally not too bothered. It'll be neat if clans can find a way to branch clans across games...but I don't see that happening nor being very successful.

Same with Roving Elves. It clearly continues Waterfall rather than Regicide. It's an elven quest, but not plague. As far as we know now. I think Paw_Claw (and a few others) were right in saying that Jagex left the description of what will happen between now and the finale very vauge.

Do you have any plans to do either of those mentioned quests? I ask because I believe that doing either quest could help speed up your exp per hr, but I'm not sure if it would interfere with your 'pure' aspects.