SirIzenhime

I know OP isn't low level, xpx said the scimmy was COMPLETELY useless though, which isn't true.

I suggest you afk :shades: i watch stuff on youtube or just fouce on my cc and cheak piles every min or so no reason to even check the piles, they drop garbage. Personally i range the one in the boat- no food needed and with only one there i can kill at my slow speed. he can't att you unless you go in the cage You can safespot the ones on the island btw. Anyways, normal melee gear with a bunyip should work fine. Kill the ones on the south side of the island, those don't use magic like the northern ones do.

700 in a pvp situation....? You do realize the SGS spec is only boosted accuracy...not str, right? I still feel quickly killing your opponent from 600+ lp is better then healing 200lp, but that's just me i guess

wouldn't killing the person who's doing the most damage to you save you more HP then using a spec that restores 300lp if you're lucky?

I've noticed more Trolling and discussions/debates Not so much Flaming. The flamebait is there, but is usually very well fought against from what I've seen.

I personally don't look at it as a daily, I'd consider it more of a convenience, just something to do if you were in the area, like say after a Tzhaar task. You're there already, I can't see how taking 2 seconds to get a free 48k is a bad thing. But I agree I wouldn't go out of the way to do it. (it takes you 3 minutes to get there? Takes me like 30 seconds :unsure: )

But that's the point. In its niche (i.e. Castle Wars) the spec goes from near-useless to flat-out amazing. No it's not....It's mostly useless in Castle wars because every other level 120+ is using Blitz/Barrage. You're lucky to make it out of the castle without being frozen twice. If you're looking for a melee spec weapon, wouldn't you rather have one that kills the target in 2 specs, instead of one that freezes him for 20, and then be left trying to whip him to death, while he inevitably begins running away again? Are you kidding me. I'm lucky to ever get frozen in castle wars except by those over 130's with Arcane nec+sol+ahrim+99 mage+barrage+steel titan, and when I do get frozen just pop out a rune crossbow with broad bolts. I must be playing the wrong games then, because when ever I grab the flag and try to run, I have 5+ mages with barrage waiting for me in the first room, even more as I go down, chances are at least one of them gets a hit on me. BTW, I was talking under the circumstance of you trying to run out with the flag, so if you switched to an alternate weapon to attack, the flag would be returned. Not to mention the other teams focus being entirely on you with the flag. I didn't make that part clear, sorry. Anyways, how does that change my point? In-case you missed it, my point was the ZGS is useless, even in Castle Wars.

Korasi's sword : 400-200-100 = 700 damage Claws : 400-200-100-100 = 800 damage No, it doesn't

I think he already knew that. I don't think he doubted that the SS was better for training, he just stated he didn't like 2h weapons. No need to basically call him stupid (trust me, that's what you basically said) So...you're point? The scimmy isn't useless either, think back before you had 70+ attack. How useless was it then? It's not good for high levels, but for the lower combat leveled players, it's the best they can get, so how exactly is it useless?

SS, sell it the second you get 99 str, and get a Zspear and whip to replace it. (or chaotics)

they have no defense, so weaknesses/accuracy is not a problem, go for what gives more str bonus (whip+defender)

No, you were going to eventually get that level (and higher) anyways, so you would have spent money on the level eventually anyways.

so is everyone else.

Well, i actually looked it up and it turns out kings ransom was released a month before god wars dungeon, making the case that because prayer use became bearable, whip has always been the better weapon for all the boss monsters, meaning that godswords have been outdated since their release- they've always been special weapons, and more or less second rate at that. What in the hell does kings random have to do with Godswords? And frankly, yes, whip has been the best weapon, hands-down, for general monster killing/slaying since it came out, up till Dunge anyways. GS had its uses when it came out. They still have a few uses. With Piety, accuracy became much less important, and thus benefited the faster weapons more then the slower weapons (whip vs godsword)

Can you show me where it's against the rules, or that skills aren't linked in any way, or that Jagex said it wasn't supposed to play this way? His point wasn't Jagex said you should trade to play right, his point was Jagex never told us the "correct" way to play, so stop trying to tell people there's a "right" way to play the game, because there isn't. (waits for JR to say the efficient guys are telling people there's 'right' ways to play, even though they haven't) Claiming that it's more efficient to play inefficiently is just wrong. Which is just what jrhairychest is doing ooookaay...? Why did you quote me to say that? :unsure:

Can you show me where it's against the rules, or that skills aren't linked in any way, or that Jagex said it wasn't supposed to play this way? His point wasn't Jagex said you should trade to play right, his point was Jagex never told us the "correct" way to play, so stop trying to tell people there's a "right" way to play the game, because there isn't. (waits for JR to say the efficient guys are telling people there's 'right' ways to play, even though they haven't)

[hide] Oh for the sake of sanity and the rest of the players who might learn something from this thread, don't respond to him. He will tell you that he knows it can't be done, because he has never tried it. That is the 10 word summary of all his useless spam on this thread. Ignore him, he is a troll. I have never tried dying, so it can't happen. On Topic; Would you find playing RuneScape fun, if you did everything in an inefficient manner? Such as refusing to use the GE, Slaying for xp, and doing other things deemed inferior? Not using the GE and being efficient don't connect, but to answer your question. No, i wouldn't, which is why I don't train skills like Runecrafting and Hunter, because I don't find them fun. However, the things I do find fun, I do efficiently, because I find it more fun that way. [/hide] Pretty sure not using the GE means DIY'ing everything, which is 'less efficient' most of the time. I don't do boring, low rewarding skills because it's so slow to train, hence playing inefficiently isn't fun at all. Oh sorry, I misread it. How ever, you're wrong about slaying being inefficient, as you gain more Total xp/hr doing slayer then you would camping a monster for just combat xp (unless your master doesn't like you, and gives you every slow task possible) Anyways, misreading aside, I still answered your question

Oh for the sake of sanity and the rest of the players who might learn something from this thread, don't respond to him. He will tell you that he knows it can't be done, because he has never tried it. That is the 10 word summary of all his useless spam on this thread. Ignore him, he is a troll. I have never tried dying, so it can't happen. On Topic; Would you find playing RuneScape fun, if you did everything in an inefficient manner? Such as refusing to use the GE, Slaying for xp, and doing other things deemed inferior? Not using the GE and being efficient don't connect, but to answer your question. No, i wouldn't, which is why I don't train skills like Runecrafting and Hunter, because I don't find them fun. However, the things I do find fun, I do efficiently, because I find it more fun that way.

In that case anyone can profess to be as efficient as they like. You know them, you've met them in game and thought 'Yeah right!' I'm efficient at the things I actually do...doesn't mean I do everything. #-o You seem to be missing EVERYTHING about this thread.

But that's the point. In its niche (i.e. Castle Wars) the spec goes from near-useless to flat-out amazing. No it's not....It's mostly useless in Castle wars because every other level 120+ is using Blitz/Barrage. You're lucky to make it out of the castle without being frozen twice. If you're looking for a melee spec weapon, wouldn't you rather have one that kills the target in 2 specs, instead of one that freezes him for 20, and then be left trying to whip him to death, while he inevitably begins running away again?

Who said it was impossible? I'm just saying it easy to state you follow it without backing it up. Its even more stupid to claim how efficient you are when your stats suggest no such thing. I do stick to what I know but I also recognise the usual BS when I smell it. You know...just because I don't have 99 mining and smithing, doesn't mean I don't know how to efficiently get 99 mining and smithing Just saying.

ZGS is really only semi-useful at saradomin godwars. But you'd be much better off with Claws, and just clicking a few more times while she's attacking you. It's always been that way.

why do you emphasis their weakness to crush attacks...when it doesn't even matter what they're weak to since their defense is so low? You'd get more XP/Hr using a whip over an SS, ESPECIALLY over a Godsword. I'd also find it odd that anyone would need to use protection prayers, since the only accurate ones are the strikers, and that's only if you're at a distance from them.

if you can soul split, it's not really needed anywhere If you cant soul split, it's good at Waterfiends Dark Beasts Black Demons Iron Dragons Skeletal Wyverns KBD/Black dragons This is assuming you aren't using protection prayers on Beasts and dragons Everywhere else a bunyip is fine.

False, for low def/stab weak monsters a Primal Rapier easily beats the 2H I agree on the bow, if you rush, definitely want laws, if you don't rush. I'd do Bloods (unless you can make them) or Sag arrows. While I wouldn't bind a staff, I disagree that magic isn't useful to use for combat, it takes maybe a minute or two to make runes for 50 fire surges, which speeds up any GD Warrior kills, and is great on some bosses (like gravecreeper, skeletal trio meleer) :thumbup: I'd bind a body for your 3rd, and Law/blood runes as ammo (depending on dungeoneering style)