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I actually didn't mind it either other than them straight copying another thing from X-Men. I was confused a bit though, guess I wasn't paying attention much last season because I didn't remember a lot of stuff.

Mutant internment camps seriously? Next thing we know Sentinels will start showing up.

You are assuming that policemen are going to let themselves become bitten, and that no one in that situation ever goes to a hospital, when everyone knows that after getting bit by a dog you have to go to the doctor for a rabbies shot. The first thing the doctors do is figure out what kind of rabbies you have, and they would realize it's not normal once the child goes into coma.

The living outnumber the dead 12,000 to 1, not 12 to 1. And that's perfectly relevant in the normal Romero zombie case in which all the dead people come alive at once all around the world. That's worst possible scenario for slow moving zombies. If it starts localized it will be over before it starts. There would never be enough to overwhelm anyone. No one is just going to stand there and wait for a zombie to bite them. They wouldn't ever get anyone in a house, if by some chance they happened to break a window open they would still have to fall inside and get back up, and all that sound from glass shattering and a body falling through a window would probably wake everyone up. Then if they are all on the second floor with doors closed the zombies would have to break through that door also. They aren't going to be quiet walking through the house either. Then if by some miracle they do infect a person in the house, they have to get back out which would also take forever.

Calling them dead or not makes no difference, if they don't have a heartbeat and aren't breathing they are dead. Also if a police man pumps a whole clip into a zombie, and it doesn't fall down, they aren't going to just stand there, wait for it to come and bite them. We are talking slow zombies, and not smart either. Even if the zombies are slightly stronger due to not holding back or anything a trained policeman will be able to take one down easily. If the number of zombies outnumbers the number of policemen the police won't try to take them down, they will call for backup and wait. Putting it in a rural situation is even easier, there is ton of open space around so it will take a slow moving zombie forever to get anywhere. If you see someone walking back in your woods you go inside, get your gun and call the police. They won't be able to ever get anyone in their sleep unless they leave doors open at night, which no one does. And if someone does get bit by a zombie, they will go to the hospital. Obviously after the CDC imposes a quarantine some won't go because they are worried about staying alive, but by that time the national guards would have been deployed and helping the police mop up the last of the mess, if it ever made it that far. Some crazy guy bites you, maybe you don't go to the hospital right away but like you said 12 hours in you are feeling really sick, unless you are an idiot you will go to a doctor.

The point is that the vast majority of the people who get bitten will be bitten at the hospital around the morgue area. When a previously dead human being bites you, you aren't going to go home and sleep it off. You will be required to seek medical attention (especially if it is a police matter). By the time you turn into a zombie, reports from all over the country of this happening would cause the CDC to quarantine those that were bitten. The vast majority of people infected will be the people that deal with dead bodies. The only zombies that make it to the street will be the dead who haven't been found yet, like a homeless person in a back alley. I'm not sure if you guys are grasping the numbers, for every dead person in the world right now there are 12,000 live people. That's an average in favour of zombies. And that's world average also, so third world countries where people die earlier will be averaging with first world countries who have less dead. Also keep in mind that most who die are old and frail, so the zombie will be frail. A good deal of old people no longer have teeth either. Also some of those dead are babies and children. I can see the fun in it, which is why I gave some more information (most of the population of the world lives next to water) to help you guys out. There are many viral outbreak situations that could be "apocalyptic". Just slow Romero zombies aren't one of them. And I was planning for a sudden world wide all dead come back to life situation, if it is just a viral situation in that a small group of dead are infected then I don't see it spreading at all.

The type of zombie we're planning for isn't exactly the living dead. It's a more realistic (If possible) version. It's a virus. anyone who's bitten becomes a zombie in about a day. killing the brain is the only way to stop them. The military is not trained to aim for the head, they are taught to aim for the center of mass. Even snipers are. By the time everyone realized the way to kill them was the head, they would have already killed and re-animated millions. Imagine one zombie, in the middle of new york, people would just take him for a drunk or something. He would attack people, bite them. They would be freaked out, but nothing more, if they escaped him. Police might try to detain him, and end up being bitten. If they shoot him, they probably won't aim for the head. they will aim to disable, or for the chest. Let's say a lucky shot hits his head, and he dies. Now there are dozens of people who have been bitten, in new york city. The next day, they would all be zombies, and this would repeat. Soon their numbers would be in the thousands, and a state of emergency would be called. By this time, it probably would not be realized that a headshot is the only way. People would just stay in their homes, or try to escape the city. those trying to escape would be stuck in the mass of traffic, only to be consumed by the zombies. Withing a week most of the population of the city would be infected. And let's say on the first day, a businessman, rushing to the airport is bitten. He is disturbed, but he can't miss his flight. He arrives in, lets say, london, the next day, checks into his hotel, and reanimates the next morning. It starts in london. London would be even worse due to the lack of firearms. How this would not affect 99% of the population is beyond me. If you see someone shuffling towards you at a slow pace who looks dead (dead people don't look like they do in the movies, you can tell easily) most people are not going to wait around for them to grab an arm and bite, especially when walking at a normal pace will out distance them. Lets look at a situation in a NYC hospital morgue: all the dead reanimate a mortician or two might get caught off guard and die, one or two more get bitten and get away. Police get called up, notice that a room full of dead people are now not dead. I think you are assuming now that zombies are a cult following thing, and while that is kind of true most people know the shoot them in the head thing. Obviously the police wouldn't shoot at the head first, but they will realize it after the zombies don't stop coming when pumped full of lead. So lets say a few of them get bit to die later, and a few die now. By this time the CDC will have been getting reports from all over the country and will have begun mandatory quarantines on all those who got bit. They won't say zombie virus, but there is obviously something going on. Each of those initial zombies could kill 120 people and that would be only 1% of the population affected. This scenario in a NYC morgue would probably have 20 dead bodies (guessing) so they could ultimately kill 2400 people and be at 1%. You have to remember that most people will avoid a confrontation, if somebody appears to be coming towards them they won't be waiting around. Especially if he looks dead, which they will.

I already explained why slow Romero zombies would not affect 99% of the human population, so planning for them is redundant. I just wanted to point out that most of the population of the world lives next to the ocean/major rivers: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ensity.png so you might want to take that into consideration.

I had to take a shovel and destroy the ice and shovel it out of the way so my mum could drive her car up the hill so we wouldn't be snowed for an hour in the rain. Though your pick-axe sounds bad [wagon]. I took a wrench and destroyed some pretty good porch ice though. Picks are really heavy, and when you are swinging them in 10 degree weather it is really hard on your lungs. And yep, the ice was the worst part of shoveling. I have broke two snow shovels in this snow already (one at work, one at home).

It was awesome, I'm guessing that the revolution will end right before or when the other Cylons show up, and that will be the big finale for the series.

If you guys worked outside you wouldn't be wishing for snow... I'm still recovering from having to use a pick-axe last Thursday for an hour or two just to get through the top 6 inches of dirt, and that's after shoveling snow for a few hours.

Luck doesn't exist, only probabilities.

Stardust is what introduced me to Neil Gaiman, and I've loved everything that he has done whether it be books/comics/movies/TV series.

I've been having problems with it for two or so days now. For some reason MttS isn't working now either, but they are totally unrelated other than being my two daily comics.

0/0 = 0 :lol:

That isn't a paradox, that is just bad math. You can't divide by zero.

Woah, forgot about that.

Pretty good episode, looks like time travel is going to be the main focus of this season so I am glad they are doing it without too many plot holes. The character who plays Faraday is also awesome, so that makes it more enjoyable. Can't think of the girl he like's name, but I think she is going to be suffering the same problem as the vegetable girl that Desmond saw. Vegetable girl probably volunteered for an experiment with Faraday which dealt with time travel, and there were complications. That's why when she is lucid she talks as if she is from different times in her life. It also explains why Faraday went to the Island, he was probably looking to either get away, or knew about it's crazy time properties and went there to study what happened in order to cure the girl.

There are a lot of zombie-like scenarios (like 28 Days Later...) in which humanity is pretty much screwed. But with the general slow moving zombie like from Night of the Dead 99% of people wouldn't be affected in any way.

I've been trying to catch up on the dinosaur comics for months now. I like reading all the comics in order so I don't miss any call-backs to earlier ones. Looks like my bookmark is on 350, and today's was 1397. Got a way to go :D .

kuro5hin - now that's a site I haven't seen in probably 6 years.

Depends on the scenario. Slow moving + brain controlled + motivated to spawn by bite, this scenario is easy. Lets say for some reason at the same time around the world all the dead come back to life. Using 2006 statistics around 1 out of every 100 people died in that year. We already vastly outnumber the dead, even if nobody did anything with those bodies all year. But they do, they get buried. From the time a person dies to the time they come to me to bury (I work in a cemetery for those that don't know) is about 3 days. That means on any given day the amount of dead people to live people ratio is 1 to 12,000. Once they are buried they are NOT going to be able to claw out of the ground. The likelihood of them being able to break through the casket is small, then they have to contend with a 2 inch thick concrete box with almost a ton of dirt on it. So what do I do when the zombies rise? Sit in my house and watch the news. People will figure out what is happening quickly enough, the confusion will have died down within days with the main casualties being people in the death business (I"m hoping I don't have any funerals the week this happens :D ). There will still be zombies around but most modern countries will be able to deal with it easily within a few weeks, and have plans set up for new dead people disposal techniques (in the case of people dieing from natural causes also coming back as zombies after z-day). At a rate of 12,000 living to 1 unliving, even if it ultimately kills a few people the living still outnumber the dead drastically. Yes there is an exponential increase at the beginning, but if you see a dead person shuffling towards you most people will run, not many will die at the beginning. Then after that they know what's up and the zombie-deaths will be down to almost nothing.

He's not going to jail though, he is going to prison. Jail is for short amounts of time, everyone in there basically keeps to them selves and gets out early for good behaviour. Prison is different, the people are in there so long (some for life) that they don't have any reason not to screw around with the new guys. They don't call it PMITA prison for nothing.

Daily: Cy&H and Married to the Sea. Mon/Wed/Fri: CAD and xkcd, but CAD I don't really like. Sundays: Rehabilitating Mr. Wiggles I also keep up with two online comic books: Tuesday: Heroes Friday: Freak Angels

Yeah, I basically agree with riku. I just wanted to see if the OP believed movies were art or not since they contain other kinds of art. I think most everyone will agree that movies are art, and therefore disregarding video games as art on the basis of it is just a container for other art would be a double-standard.