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Sure it teaches some basic skills and such, but it's not particularly educational in comparison to.. well... any other game out there. You could say you learn human anatomy from Counter-Strike on the basis that some of you are going off on. Headshots kill.

I'm confused, have you just contradicted practically all of your other posts? :? You've just proved that F2P don't need more bank space? :?

Look a few posts above. (Between Jarvald's and Junkiejeff's) Random event items can't be recoverable. And what junk? Only items with no use in RuneScape can be considered junk. And most of those items are P2P. Lol, I know you were probably kidding, but do you really think I'd care even the slightest bit about something said by someone who types like this?: "I think NE one who don't agree wid dis is NUTS" :lol: As for the part directed at ChillaKila - there you go trying to force misguided beliefs upon other people again. Take pots for example. Pots are useful, but they're still junk to me because they have very low worth and I don't use them very often. I'm sure anyone else would agree with me, because you're implying that tiles are pretty much the only junk in the game. :P

Actually after reviewing your combat skills, I think I'd be worthless as another bodyguard. I'll try and single-handedly obliterate the entire wedding, as a nice dramatic thing to happen. I'll fail, of course. :-)

I whole-heartedly agree that we are very overdue for a new death animation. The current one is both stupid and boring. I very much support the ideas including arrows through the heart, burning to ashes and hand on heart to falling over.

I'll come and play the role of another bodyguard. :-)

:shock: Harpie_Male said that??! ... ... ... Who is Harpie_Male and why should I care what he thinks?

"P0nd3r4, our arguments are over. So I'm not trying to start another one. You quoted the part of D_V_Devnull's post that talked about how Zombie Emotes have to come AFTER the clothing." Yes, specifically "but wouldn't you like to be able to wear them one time in a while? ^-^". Read it again, properly.

"Followed by this, the Random Event Zombie Clothes (Another item I covered earlier)... Without these, you simply CAN'T unlock the Zombie Emotes. After ya got the emotes, sure, you COULD drop them, but wouldn't you like to be able to wear them one time in a while? ^-^ " Then you PAY. What is it about those of you arguing for bank space that means you don't understand... Jagex has no obligation to give you anything whatsoever. END OF STORY.

Firstly I stopped doing that about 2 posts back. Once again, you make foolish connections. If you actually stop and think about it, you'll realise that 4 level dungeons are NOT a main reason why people become members. Bank space is. Speculation isn't a good thing when you state it as if you read it in a book. I believe many people put 'I think', 'I believe' or 'In my opinion' before speculation to show that they aren't sure of what they're talking about. It prevents you from seeming arrogant. You were talking about F2P players who you claim would rather quit the game because of the bank space issue than become members. (Or live with it) Sure, technically that's potential loss but in reality, if they choose to quit because of bank space, rather than subscribe, they're blatantly never going to subscribe.

Plagel clearly understands my the point of my first post on this thread: The more you kick up a fuss about wanting more bank space the less likely you are to get it. The whole point of members prayers, theiving options, items useless to F2P, low bankspace etc etc is to encourage people to become members... All this thread's doing, really, is telling Jagex that their marketing schemes are working. If you really want to make an effect, rally up all your supporters plus a few thousand more at least (340 probably won't make any difference) and get them all to mass-quit. Unfortunately for the strong supporters of this, I doubt anyone will quit. So, carry on telling Jagex how badly you want more bankspace. ;-)

F2P does support the game. Just not directly like members accounts. The ads as well as f2p are both importent in the success of RS. Not just a "bonus". Adding bankspace will just improve the game overall. as I said before. Theres no reasonable explenation to be against this idea. Or at least I havnt heard one so far. I'm actually not against this idea at all. If Jagex gave F2P 20 more bank slots, I'd be happy for them. The whole point of my arguing is that I can't believe some people have the nerve to think that F2P DESERVE more bank space when clearly they've done absolutely nothing to make that so. I believe originally I was trying to say that F2P won't get more bank slots any time soon but as per usual I digressed somehow into this.

Did I ever say they were going to become members? I said they COULD. Once again, you prove your English isn't too good. COULD is different than WILL. And if they COULD but WILL NOT, then it's there's NO POTENTIAL LOSS! Like you said, there's only potential loss if potential members quit. The amount of F2P players that will quit because of bank space obviously isn't a lot. But the amount of F2P players that will quit because they aren't getting ANY sensible updates will be a lot. Great, more speculation. You have no idea how many players will quit due to no updates. Why? F2P gets boring after a while if you don't have anything new to do. That's why I became a member, I was really bored with F2P, and I had resorted to doing some strange merchanting game I found on these forums. If people get bored, they usually will quit whatever they're doing. In this case, that's RuneScape. So I suppose you took the unusual path and became a member rather than quitting? Once again I'd like to point out that if they're going to become a member they'll most likely subscribe rather than quit. If they were ever going to become a member, does it not figure that they will subscribe when they don't want to play F2P anymore? Otherwise, we've got F2Pers subscribing when they're satisfied with F2P... but... why would they become a member if they're happy with F2P...? ;-)

Nice of you to try but all you said was essentially 'use more depth of detail next time' and nothing specific to this particular article.

In all fairness, there's no constructive criticism to be made really. The topic itself was bad so there's no way of improving it.

"Don't think that DESERVE and NEED are any different. If F2P need bank space, they deserve it. " O.M.F.G. That's the most amazingly brattish statement I've ever read! You think just because you need something, you deserve it??! Hahahahaha, you go through the rest of your life with that mentality, see where it gets you. "Say there are 5 F2Pers. They all could become P2P at any point. Meaning $25 more profit for Jagex per month. Then they all quit because they can't fit items in their bankspace, and are getting tired of it. That $25 per month that Jagex could have made is now gone." First of all, if they were going to become members, it's only logical that they'd become members rather than quit the game, no? Secondly, I'm quite sure the amount of people that will actually quit just because they aren't satisfied with the amount of bank slots they get in F2P is negligable. I can only hope, anyway, that the majority of F2P aren't like you and can appreciate what they're given.

I'm a calm, self-controlled person, but jesus christ, you make me want to curse. Are you mentally impaired?? Have you somehow not picked up on the basic concepts of business/life? Jagex and members pay for RuneScape to exist. F2P do not. How the BEEP can you justify saying you deserve more, when you don't even deserve to play the damn game in the first place, by all rights? For god's sake, what's wrong with you people! It's an incredibly basic concept: F2P give absolutely nothing to Jagex, yet Jagex give F2P a great game to play. Members give money to Jagex, so Jagex give members an even better game to play. How is that unfair? My god, could you be any more ungrateful? One way or another, you people are going to have to learn at some point that most of the time, you don't get something for nothing. Yet not only do you not realise that, you actually have the nerve to feel that you deserve MORE for nothing. Worse STILL, you have the outright indecency to DEMAND more for nothing. To hell with you. AceScope - actually I was F2P for around 2 years. I know what it's like to have the very limited bank space, it's a real pain. At the end of the day, that's not what matters here. No matter how little bank space F2P are given, they should be grateful for even getting that. The bolded part is the flaw in your argument. F2P give a lot to Jagex, but obviously not as much as us members. F2P gives Jagex: -Money through advertisements. Even if they are per-click, I'm pretty sure some people misclick them by accident. -More players. Like I said (Somewhere in the first 36 pages), not everyone will pay for membership. Those players are what I'm talking about. -A way to keep old members after they don't feel like paying anymore. If not for F2P, a lot of people would quit, and Jagex would lose money. F2P is the way Jagex drags in new members. If Jagex does not make sensible F2P updates, or no F2P updates at all, most F2P will make one of two choices... 1. Quit out of boredom from the lack of updates. 2. Get membership. Now, not everyone is willing to pay for membership. I'm not saying they can't afford it, but they have better things to spend their money on. Those people will either quit or just play F2P...I'm sure a lot will quit. Because they quit, Jagex has just lost potential members/potential money. You are the one who doesn't understand the basic concepts of business... Haha, you tell me I don't understand business, yet I'm telling you Jagex won't give you bank space and, surprise surprise, no bank space for you yet. I'm sure you're not going to tell me that Jagex, also, don't understand business when they make millions every month. Hopefully you see my point here. Once again you prove yourself to be an ungrateful fool. Indeed, F2P give TONS to Jagex by viewing advertisements on their page... as if they have a choice. You may rebuttal by saying that the advertisements are per-click. So, that would mean that F2P are giving a lot to Jagex because they click on advertisements that appeal to them. Right, I'm sure Jagex would appreciate that thoughtful, thoughtful gesture. More players... of course, that's great. I'm sure if there's one thing on Jagex's christmas list, it's more non-paying players! Yes, every member started as a free player. Yes, F2P needs to be there as a trial to get people interested. No, that doesn't mean F2P deserves any more than they already have. A way to keep old members... if not for F2P, a lot of people would quit and Jagex would lose money? Err, logic fault, anyone? I don't think Jagex is going to lose any money from EX-members quitting. :/ What's this supposed to prove anyway? I'm not trying to deny that F2P isn't an important part of the game. I'm trying to deny that F2P deserve more bank space, or even F2P itself. I honestly can't believe that you're so warped to think that by playing their game and exhausting their resources you're entitled to.. well..anything at all. If anything, YOU owe JAGEX more bank space. They should start reducing bank slots for those who aren't paying. As for your last point, you're clearly speculating. F2P will make one of THREE choices: 1. Quit out of boredom from the lack of updates (I'm guessing maybe 5% maximum over the next year). 2. Get membership (I'm guessing 10% MINIMUM over the next year) 3. Continue playing. Most players will probably go with #3. Probably including you. And to your very last point: -_- Congratulations, you've just made another huge mistake! :) You say not everyone will pay for membership, fair enough. You then say a lot of those people may quit, losing jagex potential money. If they're not going to pay, there's no potential loss to Jagex...? You produce little sense and even less wisdom. I wish not to argue with you any further. You may either stand corrected, or continue your ungrateful whining. Just know that there's an unpleasant slang word for your kind. The word is 'snob'.

I'm a calm, self-controlled person, but jesus christ, you make me want to curse. Are you mentally impaired?? Have you somehow not picked up on the basic concepts of business/life? Jagex and members pay for RuneScape to exist. F2P do not. How the BEEP can you justify saying you deserve more, when you don't even deserve to play the damn game in the first place, by all rights? For god's sake, what's wrong with you people! It's an incredibly basic concept: F2P give absolutely nothing to Jagex, yet Jagex give F2P a great game to play. Members give money to Jagex, so Jagex give members an even better game to play. How is that unfair? My god, could you be any more ungrateful? One way or another, you people are going to have to learn at some point that most of the time, you don't get something for nothing. Yet not only do you not realise that, you actually have the nerve to feel that you deserve MORE for nothing. Worse STILL, you have the outright indecency to DEMAND more for nothing. To hell with you. AceScope - actually I was F2P for around 2 years. I know what it's like to have the very limited bank space, it's a real pain. At the end of the day, that's not what matters here. No matter how little bank space F2P are given, they should be grateful for even getting that. Tetsuya - I realise this. I've gone through it about 6 times. If you want, you can go around and gather 1 or more of every F2P item, then you'll no longer have a problem. Anyhow, that's irrelevant. If you want to keep your bank slots, you purchase membership status again. It's really quite simple. Oh I'd also like to point out that nobody forces you to play this game. If you don't want to pay for it but aren't satisfied with the free version then don't [bleep]ing play it. It's THAT easy. What you DON'T do is complain about it. How do your minds work? I can't even begin to comprehend your thought processes. All I can imagine is something like: "I'm not given enough, considering I actually spend my precious time enjoying this game for free."

Not that I disagree with anything you just said, bbalking, but I'll be damned if it doesn't bring to mind the colour brown and the word 'nose'.

Kiara_Kat I can understand your disinclination to remove the article but it would probably actually be for the best. Usually by this point this thread would be a 14 page long thread full of kudos and the like. This time, however, it's only 2 pages long and half of it is of a 'thumbs down' sentiment. Not that I'm trying to push my opinipn onto you, but if I were you I'd admit that I had published a bad article and replace it with a better one.

The bottom line is THIS: F2P DOES need more bank space. F2P will NOT get it. F2P IS a major part of the economy, but what kind of arguement is "I sell things to members so I deserve more bank space"? You blatantly don't sell things with "I'm going to help members" in mind, you sell them for the gold coins. F2P do NOT deserve more bank space simply for playing. That's a ridiculous arguement that needs to be dropped, now. You want more bank space, you pay. You don't like it, don't play. That's how it works.

Caisadi - don't take anything I said to heart by the way. I don't mean any personal offence. :) Don't feel bad, in truth it should never of been published really. :P

Actually, having just read everyone else's posts and seeing some more good reasons why this was a poor article, I think this may well be the worst article ever published on Tip.It. It really is terrible, I hate it! :x

I feel I should be honest and say, basically, I think that article was completely pointless. I'm now informed as to the writer's love of quests, his/her latest achievementss and some quite obvious common sense concerning the 'other' quest types. Infact, the part about the 3 other quest types wasn't really even related to the game. Pretty much all it said was that any pre-meditated task that you do can be considered a quest. Not worth writing an article about in my opinion, sorry. :P

Exactly. They probably saw how much you F2Pers want more bank space, so they gave more to members instead. :P