DarkDude

That's impossible. In the few hours before updates Jagex are working hard, double and tripple checking the changes they're about to make to try and reduce the amount of bugs, if a massive one comes up, they have to delay the update, and I'm sure the Runescape forums would be an excellent place to be when that occurs... Also, when an Update is realeased there will be a few bugs, and some of which are major and require a fix right there, usualy an hour or two after the main update took place. You can save the fight caves anyway, and I'm sure 59 is the one BEFORE the double 360s, should have logged out, and then come back in, you'd have gotten a few seconds to put mage protect on, plenty of time (Although, they should increase it now with that stupid slide bar :/)

Just incase anyone was wondering, the "prayers" the Kalphite Queen does DO NOT effect max damage you can do, just decrease accuracy.

Used to be dragon drops, but got over that *points to sig*... Although if I get any more chains or a 2h (The only Dragon drop I'm yet to get) then it'll start. Strangely enough, at abyssals it only seems to go when I get a drop that LOOKs like a whip (Black sword) and when I get a whip I'm just like "Oh, ok" Pking if I'm in dharoks or fighting someone in a barrows set =P Or If I've just come back a pking break and haven't pked in a while so I'm not used to it.

I posted this before, but must have been a year ago now, my idea is to have two "items" per skill (At 90 and 99) that effect the skill in some way. Attack - Gotten from someone in the warrior guild. 90 Cape of Accuracy (+10 to all attack bonuses) 99 Improved Cape of Accuracy (+15 to all attack bonuses) Strength - Gotten from someone in the Warrior guild. 90 Cape of Damage (+7 Strength bonus) 99 Improved Cape of Damage (+12 strength bonus) Defence - Gotten from someone in the Warrior Guild. 90 Cape of Defence (+15 to all Defence bonuses) 90 Improved Cape of Defence (+25 to all defence bonuses) Hitpoints - Gotten from someone in the Warrior Guild. 90 Cape of Healing (+1 extra point healed per item of food) 99 Improved Cape of Healing (+2 extra points healed per item of food) Prayer - Gotten from someone in the monastry 90 Gloves of Hope (+5 prayer bonus) 99 Boots of hope (+5 prayer bonus) Magic - Gotten from someone in the Mage Guild. 90 Death Gauntlets (Similar to Chaos Gaunts) 99 Blood Gauntlets (Similar to Chaos Gaunts) Range - Gotten from someone in the Range Guild. 90 Cape of Archery (+15 Range Attack) 99 Improved Cape of Archery (+25 range attack) Runecrafting - Gotten from any of the Runecraft teleporting people. 90 Gloves of Something =P (10% chance of getting double the normal amounts of runes) (So if you craft 20 rune essence, each one is 10% likely to get double the normal Yield) 99 Improved gloves of Something (20% chance of the above) Construction - Gotten from the Saw Mill Operator 90 Gloves of Construction (+1 Construction when worn) 99 Cape of Construction (Reduces the cost of Monsters and such by 10%) Herblore - Gotten from the head Druid Guy. 90 Gloves of Herblorism (5% chance of making a 4 dose potion) 99 Improved Gloves of Herblorism (10% chance of making a 4 dose potion) Agility - Gotten from Any of the Agility "Instructors" 90 Cape of Weightlessness (-10kg when worn) 99 Gloves of Weightlessness (-10kg when Worn) Cooking - Gotten from the cooking guild. 90 Improved Cooking Gaunts (Less likely to burn Monkfish, lobsters, swordfish and sharks) 99 Extreme Cooking Gaunts (Less likely to burn everything) Crafting - Gotten from the Crafting Guild. 90 Gloves of Craftmanship (10% chance to keep a gold bar when making jewellery) 99 Improved Gloves of Craftmanship (20% chance to keep a gold bar when making jewellery) Farming - Gotten from any of the patch tenders. 90 Straw Hat (10% chance of an improved Yield) 99 Dungerees (20% chance of improved Yield NOTE can NOT be combined with Straw Hat) Firemaking - Gotten from someone in uhh Seers Village? 90 Cape of Pyromaniacs (Fire lasts 10% longer) 99 Improve Cape of Pyromaniacs (Fire Lasts 20% longer) Fishing - Gotten from the Fishing Guild 90 Harpoon of Fish (Makes harpooned fish easier to fish) 99 Cape of Fish (Makes all fish easier to fish) Fletching - Gotten from someone in Seers Village 90 Cape of Fletchers (10% chance of making two bows with one log) 99 Improved Cape of Fletchers (15% chance of making two bows with one log) Mining - Gotten from the Mining Guild. 90 Cape of Miners (10% more likely to get the ore) 99 Improved cape of Miners (20% more likely to get the ore) Slayer - Gotten from any Slayer Master 90 Complete Face Mask (Works as a face mask, nose peg, ear muffs etc.) 99 Complete Slayer Pack (Like a swiss army knife, can turn into a rock hammer, mirror shield and such items) Smithing - Gotten from Keldagrim 90 Smelters Cape (10% chance to use half coal when Smelting) 99 Smithers Cape (10% chance of using 1 less bar when smithing (Does not work for 1 bar items) Thieving - gotten from Rouges Den 90 Stealth Cape (Less likely to be caught) 99 Cape of Invisibility (Less likely to be caught) Woodcutting - Gotten from Seers Village 90 Lumberjack's Cape (10% more likely to get logs from a tree) 99 Improved Lumberjack's Cape (20% more likely to get logs from a tree) Posted it on the Runescape Forums. Quick find code: 24-25-756-29689337

Ouch. What I do when I go down is just bring full guthans + mage stuff and I go with a friend. The other day we were doing a trip, we got there and had to switch 3 times to find an empty server. Near the end of our trip a team comes, and proceed to run around like morons, I think 2 of them died and 1 of them teled, but there was this 107 who insistsed on maging with me and my friend... After he realises his team has gone he attacks supreme and thus supreme attacks me and my friend, causing us to teleport out because some bloody moron has no manners, luckily we both amde it out alive, with our disapointing loot that trip...

What is the Barcrawl for again? I remember doing it on RSC, but can't remember the use of it...

Intro This is a guide for people who don't have 85 slayer quite, but still want to slay abyssal demons using Wild Pies. First off, you need Level 80 slayer to kill these, but I wouldn't recommend doing this method until ATLEAST 81 slayer. THE PIE To kill Abyssal Demons with only 80 slayer you need to make wild pies, for those who don't know Wild Pies add +5 slayer per bite and have 2 bites per pie. These pies are made from Raw Chompies, Raw Bear and Raw Rabbit aswell as the usual Pie ingrediants they require 86 cooking to make, and even at 99 cooking you can burn them (Unless you use the Cook Pie spell) To get Rabbits the best place is just East of the Elf village (The one you teleport to) Go though the trees, and south at the wolves, and on your east there should be a little gap with about 5 rabbits in. To get bear meat It's best to do it in the mine outside of the legends guild then either using the Legends Guild bank, or Ardounge South bank. For Chompies, it's the only place you can really kill chompies, Feldip Hills. Of course, if you're lazy you can buy Pies for 10k each, although sellers are hard to find. You can also buy Raw Bear meat from Canifis, and can buy Raw Rabbit from the new ship boat people. The best way to get flour is from your POH from the larder, for jugs and pie dishes use the chest in Lumbridge Castle Dungeon. THE EQUIPMENT Once you have your pies (I'd recommend getting atleast 100 at a time) it's time to head out for Abyssal Demons. You have a few choices on how to kill them: 1) Using Rune (Or torag/dragon etc.) With a normal weapon (Whip, Dragon Scimmy) Inventory: With this inventory, you have 10 pies and basicly the rest sharks, Why? Because abyssal demons go on hax hitting sprees and I found that I could always manage 10, sometimes 12 but never much more than that. Equipment: Replace the Bunny ears with a Warrior or Berserker helm for more defence and accuracy/strength. You need a shield rather than a defender for the extra defence for when they go on their hax hitting sprees. The dueling ring is there because you can tele out with it, and I don't have any charged glories. It saves an Inventory space for a teletab or crystal etc. And as far as I know, Ring of Wealth makes little difference. 2) Guthans + Whip This method, in my opinion is the best method to use, instead of 10 pies per trip, you use 20 pies which means less running back to bank to restock. Inventory: Inventory is basicly the same, but with 20 pies instead of 10. Equipment: Equipment is what you would expect, has a rune defender instead of a Rune kite because with guthans you can heal more anyway, although an Obsidian shield would be best. 3) Dharoks The inventory is the same as normal, but the equipment is just dharoks. What you do with this method is attack demons, and when you get to <15 hp you heal with a shark and repeat :) THE METHOD From there on it's pretty simple, you make your way to abyssal demons (Located in the Slayer Tower), when you get there eat half a wild pie, and kill demons until you're 84 slayer, as soon as you hit 84, eat another pie and repeat. Do this until your last pie, When you're down to your last pie, save your dagger special, when you eat your last slice of pie, switch the 15% prayers on. And kill until you get to 85 slayer, once you're at 85 Special the demon you're on, and it should poison it, this means that if you fail to kill it the poison will finish it off for you. Notes: 1) I have no super sets as I feel they are a waste of space for this, I'd rather have 3 more pies then 3 spaces wasted for a super set (Or 6 in guthans case) but that's for you decide. 2) You NEED 85 slayer (Base) To get an abyssal demon head, you CAN NOT get it without it. EDIT: NO YOU DON'T! I JUST GOT ONE AT 83![/b] 3) With 82 slayer I can kill ~8 demons per pie (4 per slice) at 115 combat. 4) Change the ammount of pies/sharks ammount depending on your combat level, the higher your combat level, the more pies you take and the less sharks. 5) Each trip you should be getting about 100k from drops (More if you get whip) These drop a lot of rune essence, rune chains and rune meds aswell as clues. The ammount of demons you can kill per pie varies on your slayer level and your combat. But it's roughly: 80: 2 81: 4 82: 8 83: 10 84: 12 That's based on 115 combat, + or - 1/2 depending on combat. End part I think that basicly sums everything up, Doing this method I've had 11 whips and a dragon med (Off my 3rd ever demon) My longest time without a whip was about 150 pies so A bit more than 1000 demons, and my best run was 2 in 5 kills :)

Crop the picture, also show where it is on the map (With the route) Also need to say other alternatives for killing them (Melee and other spots) Aswell as a better guide of what to keep, Just the hides? Or Bones + hides?

Hmmm, it was either Druidic Ritual or Fishing Contest, I remember trying witches house, getting the monster and trying click on my food. "Hey! Why isn't it healing!" *Examine Raw Pike* "Oh dear you are dead" According to that picture I have herblore, so definatly that. That picture was around the time the KBD came out I think, can't remember...

Can't remember what level I beat it at, but it was on members. I got members at like 27 combat as I was mainly a skiller (Despite being a PKer) Must have been mid 30-40 combat. I think the only members item I used was an attack potion, RSC was fun =P

I speak to both those nubs too =P As I said in the other topic, I don't understand what the big deal is, I'm sure you don't go into your local shop and start taking pictures of the staff there...

With 82 Slayer + Wild pies it is worth it, although when you go 1000 Demons without a whip, it does get annoying. Get 82-83 slayer then buy 200 wild pies for 2M, and see what you think of them, and if you like them then get 85 slayer. Or, if you're too lazy then just get loads of wild pies like me =P But 85 slayer IS worth it, not including abyssal demons I've had: Dragon Shield, Dragon skirt and Dragon legs from slayer, all of which I wouldn't ahve got without it. Aswell as lots of the slayer items along the way and hundreds of clues. (Although I have had a dragon med and 7 whips off demons =P)

Finally got a third whip drop... ON MY LAST PIE. Now I have 230 pies that I bought to use, WITH MY NEW WHIP :D While doing this I got 90 Strength, 95 Attack and 115 combat :D

15 pies yet, still no sign of a whip. That trip was pretty good though (4 chains, clue and a key half)

Another 20 pies gone, still not whip. Must be 1k Demons without a whip now :/ Got 90 strength though :D

55 pies used today. 440 demons. 2 chains, 3 meds, 2 clues. Ugh.

75 pies left. Used 20 pies that last trip, all I got was a rune med :/ Gone about 75 pies now without a whip (About 600 Demons) Starting to annoy me.

Still haven't got that 3rd whip... Buying 230 pies off someone :D

IRL, skirts were used a lot for war, due to their increased movibility meaning you could dodge things easier.

Raided my bank and sold loads of stuff, bought full guthans :D Now my trips can last longer.

OI! I made that! =P 6 parts long. Greater Demons --> Gnome Coach --> Dark Warrior's Castle --> Pirate Hut --> Axe Hut --> Miscellania = 2 Dragonhide Chaps, 1 body 32 nats. My worst clue ever.

Can't think of what to put in the middle >_< Looks a bit plain. I like the background personally, although not too sure on the text. Any suggestions on what to put in the middle, aswell as ideas for the font?

Updated with latest trip. got to do the clue that I got.

From rags to Well Howdy people? *is confused* Good luck with getting those big fishies.

Whip'D