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I've been hanging around LRC in W84, and that place is a hotbed for botting. I'd assume there's some semi popular mining bot out there, I commonly see people red-barred doing this: -running to the deposit winch after aggroing a rock creature -staying there for a few seconds then running back out again -getting attacked instantly by the same rock creature, running back to the winch This happens over and over until they die, at which point their graves get instablessed and decay like 20 minutes later. I've seen this happen to someone in full melee void with a firecape, and someone in bandos with a dfs, among others.

For crims, granite lobs are generally considered very efficient. Edit: lolol rock lobs -> granite lobs

Your friend is supposedly crafting nats at a near maxed rate. Either he is very very good, or lying. Also, deaths are faster at 9X-99. I'm not sure of the lowend, I was 99 when they updated the rune modifiers. Deaths are more cash/hour and a negligible amount more exp. As for mousekeys, you can either use a jump of two menu choices, or four. Four is useful for withdrawing ess, but I personally like 2, as it can be used to empty pouches, open the bank window, and open the lurker deposit screen. If you do continue to graahk nats, using npc contact to repair pouches is faster then doing a death abyss run. A good rate is 3.2-3.4k pess/hour. Edit: also you can wait 2 trips after your giant pouch has degraded before repairing, if 3 pouching.

Dragon claws also rose a little under 1m in a day.

This was a terrible idea. If you take mod mark's earlier statement about 1.3k climbing boots being 'the most' he'd seen so far (which I highly doubt), why didn't they simply turn the old climbers into junk, and add the new climbers in at their current price?

Burn maples.

Abyssing deaths at 99 is indeed much more profitable, and (imo) more interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_7dcvcK1OM

tbh thats not really stupid, maybe the guy in dragon cant afford any better shield, and god forbid anyone use a setup they like to looks of over a statistically superior one. also you cant lend spirit shields *shrug* I already said I didn't believe any of these were extremely stupid, they're all minor inefficiencies, though the ranger boot one probably counts mainly because I'm pretty sure the guy was using a borrowed/bought account. And I didn't post the guy in dragon because of the g-shield.

Here's a little collage just pulled some random images out of my folder. Nothing that would be nominated for 'stupidest thing ever done', and the SS's are probably lends, but the waterfiend one is at least a head scratcher.

Eh, I ecto'd out of barrows with a full inv and a karil's skirt on the ground like a million years ago, about all I can think of. beyond that I've frequently seen people training in extremely stupid equipment, mainly arcane/spectrals, and meleeing in arma stuff. Don't know if that counts, but I have quite a few SS's of it.

Try and get a neitz/warrior helm, use a whip/defender combo and train controlled, it's better than an SS (which you should incidentally sell if you're short on cash). If you really need extra defense and aren't going to be praying, melee barrows top+bottom provides plenty, buy whichever is the cheapest. If you're praying, wear prossy chest/legs (veracs skirt if you need additional def). Sharks are also pretty terrible money these days, if you need to make money fishing monkfish would probably be best at your level, and are decent exp. Edit: if you're training with a whip a warrior ring is also a nice cheap option for your ring slot. I doubt you can do rfd for gloves, but that should probably become a priority.

Last time I was in w84 he was banking em, though that was a few months ago. I also doubt he'll do anything but zmi for rc. Abyssing deaths is simply too slow in comparison to zmi, almost a 50% reduction if you take maxed rates for both. If he can make more than 2.4-2.6m an hour, he's better off with ZMI. Even with his purist attitude, he probably wouldn't be against any of the usual combat themed money makers. If he really does get [rooster]blocked I could see him attempting melee/range/slayer.

It's a gray area last time I checked. Jagex allows mousekeys, and also programmable mouse and keyboard buttons for clicking/using function keys, but they've also said they must conform to a 1:1 click ratio. The + key would seem to not fit into that description, but I know plenty of people use it, mainly to withdraw ingredients for overloads quickly. It might've been cleared up in a later forum topic or something though, so I hope someone can give me some updates. Either way I honestly don't think you need to worry about it.

Any boost prayers if you use em. Should have mentioned that's why I take the prayer equipment, prot prayers are unnecessary, they melee usually and don't hit very hard.

I melee them with the usual prayer equipment. Whatever your melee setup is, just take that. Not sure on which attack style is best, but I use a whip. All I would think to mention would be super anti-poisons. Just don't forget em, I usually take two.

Abyssing deaths is slower than zmi, but faster than graahking, unless you get a tremendous amount of abyss fails. Wasn't sure which you were referring to. I was comparing abyss deaths with graahking. I am fairly certain graahks are faster exp, but less profit. Whether i am right or not is insignificant, seeing as getting to 82 (no choice of what to craft really - astrals) is very insignificant in the long run. Once you get past that milestone, time vs. cost efficiency really comes into play. ZMI is the fastest exp, whereas abyss deaths will be most profitable until 77, then bloods would be most profitable until 82. Double astrals till double nats and you will be making as much money as possible. I find graahking more relaxing, so i would do that until 82 and after 91. As for the method of ZMI, use ourania teleport, fire runes to bank, range prayer while running the gauntlet, and all 4 pouches if using a familiar. I highly suggest it. You can get 3 FULL inventory loads of ess when using all pouches and a familiar. Having a full bank is essential. If you are having trouble with that, go to your POH and pull out every book that you can from your bookshelf. With a quest cape, i figure you have enough books to fill your bank up at least once lol. Deaths usually end up around 1k higher/hour. Before the rune multipliers they were significantly more profit all the way to 82, not sure how that's fared. Also, the last time I checked bloods were inferior to deaths due to the distance from the blood portal to the altar. That's considering exp though, I don't really see how they even come close to being as profitable as deaths. Edit: wow, mental slip there; exp modifiers -> rune multipliers

Calling jibberish right here. All the sacred clay tools are good. I got 99 crafting with needles. I got 99 smithing with hammers. I got 99 fletching with the knifes. And now I am finishing up 99 con with hammers. I didn't use the pick much unless I was mining pure ess while banking with the abyssal titan. Mining in the living caverns is about 40-50k depending on spawns of coal and gold, which was good enough for me when I got 95+ mining. The horn sucks because the people at BA are [developmentally delayed]ed. I wouldn't bother with that, its more frustration than anything. Also, 2 mil an hr on skills is ego babble with 0% chance of reality. Only recently when I got 91 rc could I make 800-900k an hr. Knives/axes/picks are all not worth it efficiency-wise, as the time it takes to get them is exceeded by spending that time training the skills normally. Fletching logs is slow exp, compared to stringing unstrung bow, which also happen to cost less.

Lol, he's been doing that for the entirety of his stay there. He's always in donation mode, and the titan would probably save him a bank trip if he used the obby right outside. Not saying he isn't broke, but he did something similar all the way to 200m agi at the barb course. Very strange guy.

Conc gold is around 65k/hour. But yeah, sc picks aren't worth it efficiency-wise.

Using the zmi banker is the fastest method available. But moonclan isn't that bad for people that don't want to deal with the rune interface three times per run.

If you're doing zmi you should use the zmi banker, or at the very least tele to moonclan.

Abyssing deaths is slower than zmi, but faster than graahking, unless you get a tremendous amount of abyss fails. Wasn't sure which you were referring to.

I'm on a streak today, 3 effigies (desert strykewyrms, spectres and living rock creatures). I like the update, most exp extras offer almost nothing, these are quite different. Plus I've assisted 60kish extra rc exp already, which is always cool :3

Bursting, then barraging at any of the usual places. Rock lobs will give you tons of crims if you're going to do them to 99 mage. If you care about summoning, something to consider.