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Double drop, I want that :oops:

Why isn't it right? Why should you be able to make huge amounts of money with EVERY skill? Maybe you haven't noticed, but this game isn't about how rich someone is. There isn't any high score table to show how rich you are, but there is for how high your skills are. Some skills SHOULD cost money to train, the game wouldn't be fun if every single thing you did made you money either. It would actually make sense to give cash benefits to skills, speaking in a fantasy realm. What is the real point of leveling these skills besides skill total increases? Comparing it to the old days, things were much more balanced and skills were way more rewarding. Now however, money making strategies do not excel in skilling, but in merchanting, staking, and other tricky little tasks such as green dragon slaying. In my mind, this is not at all how it should be. If you were around in rs1 I'm sure you'd understand me. The point of leveling your skills is just that. You gain levels to make your character better. Since rs2 has come out, more and more people have come to admire richness over levels, with the rising prices of rares and such, and too much focus has been put on getting rich over getting levels. Stats that don't bring you profit aren't done as much, while everyone rushes to get 85 slayer or 91 runecrafting. I agree with Dork, not all skills should bring you profit. Getting levels was always the point of runescape, although in some peoples minds it's been replaced with getting that elusive rare. And, I was around for quite some time in classic, we're not at an understanding. Why shouldn't all skills bring you profit? That's what they're intended for, or at least should be. In a fantasy realm farmer's don't farm just for the sake of it, they do it for cash. As do fletchers, chefs etc. My point of arguement is people can become rich without doing much skilling, and in my mind it shouldn't be that way. Runescape is a game about level increases, and we see more and more regularly this lacking, as there isn't much of a point to it anymore. What is the point of crafting, smithing etc? I myself have 70 + all stats, so I obviously enjoy them. But it shouldn't be this way, it should also bring great rewards. We see skillers struggling to continually afford their next levels, while those who aren't interested head out to professionally stake or merchant, getting a considerable larger pay cheque at the end of the day. When back in the day, the skillers reined supreme. Smithers were at the top of everything, along with herblorists and theivers. My thoughts are this, should those who aren't fully playing the game benefit cash wise more than others?

Doubt I'll make it, but a big gratz from myself :)

Why isn't it right? Why should you be able to make huge amounts of money with EVERY skill? Maybe you haven't noticed, but this game isn't about how rich someone is. There isn't any high score table to show how rich you are, but there is for how high your skills are. Some skills SHOULD cost money to train, the game wouldn't be fun if every single thing you did made you money either. It would actually make sense to give cash benefits to skills, speaking in a fantasy realm. What is the real point of leveling these skills besides skill total increases? Comparing it to the old days, things were much more balanced and skills were way more rewarding. Now however, money making strategies do not excel in skilling, but in merchanting, staking, and other tricky little tasks such as green dragon slaying. In my mind, this is not at all how it should be. If you were around in rs1 I'm sure you'd understand me.

Rune ores are 12k ea, rune kites sell for 50k ea. Thats 14k profit each. The coal costs around 4k so the end profit is: 10k or so Making 100k per snapdragon run IS beneficial. Especially when you only spend 10 minutes at max planting and picking them if you don't wait at the patch for them 300k per hour at the low level of 44 isn't good? Oh boy... That's why you do it in conjunction with farming. : Now work out the time you waste smithing the items for a profit of 10k. IT IS NOT worth it. One can hardly level up farming by merely planting herb seeds, you NEED to plant tree seeds to get any real xp. 300k per hour runecrafting at lvl 44?? I'm quite sure you mean 200k, considering you have to buy the pure essence. And 200k per hour is reasonable, but leveling runecrafting this way to 99 is hardly convinent. I agree with your herblore statement. --------- Now finally, Compare everything with old profits. Introduction of rs2 and constant complaining of people has, whether you like it or not, killed non independant skill profits.

Wow! Finally, he put that so well. I remember when I found a steel plate on the ground, and couldn't find my way back to civilisation. I still remember the feeling, it surpasses anything I've ever done on rs to this day. I agree and support this rant 100% I really hate the complainers, where nothing is good enough and everything has to be easy. I'm really looking forward to the future, if it happens :D

You are right, I believe a lot of people need to think about this. Leveling up non independant skills is now ONLY good for personal pride and increase in skill total. (Apart from independant skills - and, fletching) THINK ABOUT IT You can make more money selling hides than by actually crafting them You can make more money and save more time by selling the rune ore rather than smithing it! You can make more money selling seeds than by planting them (Except for herb planting, which isn't all that beneficial) Raws sell for the same as cooked Theiving is an independant skill, but it still lacks cash benefits like it did in the old days. Runecrafting is only really good at 91, unless of course you're mining the pure ess. Construction .... well obviously there is ZERO cash benefits here. Herblore has become non profitable at best. Super sets have dropped largly in price from rs1 to rs2, and any chances of making prayer pots profitable were ruined by the increase price in ranaar weeds. To sum it all up, there is no cash incentive to leveling non independant skills anymore. Back in the day smithing was useful as it actually brought in a profit, along with cooking and theiving. Now however people lose money trying to level up skills. This isn't right! ----------------------------- Why has this occured you all ask? SIMPLE The introduction of rs2 and easier skilling. :( :(

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This us gonna be fun :twisted:

I agree. The Current games are absolute rubbish. I'm highly considering wiping them from my house. It's a pity houses can't offer many great things, considering it costs so much to level. I know the gilded alter, portal rooms, infinite glory etc are all good, but it's really not completly worth it. There needs to be a big change in construction to actually make the money you spend on it, count for something. This idea is a good start, I like it :D

Oh that's kinda funny :oops: But you seem to be able to laugh at the mistake, so good for you :D You made someone's day, as well as give us a few laughs :P :P

I think I'll come, this sounds like fun. Post closer to the date and give us some times :D I'll stock up on things to alch.

Geez finally someone put what I wanted to say in a very simple way. Why does the word "quit" enter peoples minds? Seriously is this game like an addiction to you?? If you feel like playing, then log on. If not, then don't log on. Thanks tons Adam, I think I may have to sig you.

Meeeeeeee Elucin8er :D

I'm not going to be mean :oops: But uh, "not a good" ... idea :oops:

It wont be, Jagex already changed it from 2 to 1, i highly doubt theyll change it back I hope they do ... they really need to. Range is so underpowered. I'm sick of seeing this arguement. Gimme a few minutes and I'll see if I can find a post of mine I made about this... EDIT: Tip.it deletes anything I have said something in that I would like to share. Anyway, I just said that even though you can't hit 30's on other players with range, it still kicks wagon (yes, wagon; I didn't say put teh "A word" :P) against NPC's. I've gone on numerous KBD trips where level 70 rangers with crystal bows got the kill more often than a level 120 meleeing. It's not underpowered. Stop complaining. In the PKING triangle is is VERY underpowered. The only use of it is as a backup against mages who prayer switch. Seriously, I'd rather a dds or a whip against a mage any day of the week. Go into the wild, rangers do not exist as solo pkers at mid - high levels.

LMao! That's so funny. Nice find

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Rod Of Ivandis, without a doubt. It's special to me because I finished that tedious quest real fast and in advance thought of making a seperate staff. It was pretty cool for a few weeks holding this unique item, the questions eventually bugged me though :oops:

It wont be, Jagex already changed it from 2 to 1, i highly doubt theyll change it back I hope they do ... they really need to. Range is so underpowered.

Stole my words, so ditto:P

My friend used to do that a while back, except with the store in Port Sarim. It wasn't that bad to be honest, just very .... very boring. I would never do it :oops:

Hahaha you made me laugh a lot in real life :3> :3>