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6 millions is nothing, we'd need to reduce the amount at least 10 times more than that. Also it happened at the wrong place: Africa is the real problem and it's followed by Asia and South America. Oh well maybe that was the excuse for genocides and massdeaths caused by the commies... Indeed, nearly 100 Million at the expense of communism last century? Lets see how they fair this century.

I have a hard time understanding the mentality of a liberal christian.

Please cite sources at least, since whatever you say is useless without them.

Mhm. I agree, since everyone makes the rules everyone says whats sin and what isn't. So nothing would ever be sinning since there is no ultimate and definitive list of sins take the last thousands and thousands of years where differrent religions and philosophies and people have contested with each other. The only way all sins could be prevented is through there being no sins at all. Unless again you think "Capitalism and freedom cause everyone to have a subjective idea of sinning!". Basically all i ever see in communists arguments is "This this and this are all due to capitalism here is no proof on the matter case closed". And whats even more laughable is that Marx actually called his dialectic a scientific method. Haha. Edit: And Wakka, pick up John Stuart Mills "On Liberty" that basically outlines everything you beleive in, in more depth and shows the understandings behind why thats the best system in which to live both socially, economically and utlising epistemology. He [bleep]ing rocks.

Ask him out on a date.

I don't really want to have a debate about circular reasoning on this thread. I'll reply with this: http://www.needhim.org/1/bible/bible4.shtml Thats still circular reasoning, and i quote the last paragraph "This is not circular reasoning. It is establishing certain facts and basing conclusions on the sound, logical outcome of these facts". All the facts they establish come from the Bible, and even if they establish facts like "Jesus was crucified" that doesn't logically conclude to his ressurection. That whole things seems very much like stretching beliefs into apparent facts. The only way for a christian to avoid circular reasoning ie. "I beleive in the Christian God because the Bible is true, and i believe in the Bible because the christian God is true" is by relying on other evidence to support the specific idea of God such as personal experiences of seeing Jesus telling you the christian God is correct or something. Which can not be proven, or may not be real and only ever counts as a proof to that person and sometimes to other followers of the religion already and no one else.

I'm aware that this might be off-topic but here goes: It's not really a circular argument. The Bible isn't right because it says so, it's right because it's God's words. Of course you have to believe in God for it to make any sense. If you don't believe in God then nothing can be his words, but if you do believe in God it's not impossible that he wanted to communicate with his creation. And therefore told/inspire people to write down his will (and stuff) in a book also know as the Bible. To beleive in the Bible you must believe that the Christian God exists first for it to even be possible that it's his inspired writings, and you get the idea and attributes of the Christian God from the Bible. It's clearly circular. Doesn't God judge humans on whether they are christian or not? And isn't God perfection? Obviously therefore it has to be perfect to judge people on their religious groups. So i don't see why you are not for judging based on whatever religion they follow or don't follow. Afterall, thats what segregates one man from hell and the other from heaven.

This is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. Racism is prejudice towards a race of people, which "lvl 3 skillers" are not. Why you would even care is beyond me anyway. And it's slightly insulting to be putting real racism on par with this actually.

I enjoyed it, it's no Third Man but it's worth the watch. I recently got this; I enjoyed Letters better, but flags is worth having as well.

So a new generation can inherit the old generations problems? Only if you think in terms of generation, their generations problems are mine now.

Ah, you made me listen to now! But it's is a great album probably next on my list.

Should be fun ;)

People grow up.

Where is the legal drinking age where you live? If it's 21 like it is here, your friend's dad is incredibly irresponsible. For giving them two shots of vodka? You gotta be out of your mind.

Dylan couple months ago now.

Thats because he considers them political enemys.

Yes but there are radical dictators, such as the leader of North Korea, I don't recall his name right now. kim jong irr lol (I have no earthly idea how to spell it but team america ftw?) Even he wont ever do it, because humans value life as the most important thing to them (usually their own) he KNOWS if ke launches a nuke he is dead. He also probably despite his lunatic exterior has a heart and wouldn't just lauch a nuke on random people in a country for zero reason.

To stop a war that threatened the lives of millions more people, and i doubt that will ever happen again.

The only thing we have to worry about is nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists, since NO GOVERNMENT OR DICTATOR EVER is stupid enough to use them realisticaly. We have had nuclear weapons for 50+ years now, and thats never happened and neither has terrorists stealing them. So i don't think we have much to worry about.

I just wanted to find out which albums made the grade for you guys, since we usually just list bands. However albums are a lot different than just liking a band because they require more individuality and usually a good album will have a different feel from another even if it's from the same artist or band. I'll start and you dont need to go as in depth as me; Pink Floyd - The Dark Side Of The Moon (1973) This is my favourite album simply because it never gets tiring, it has a spaced out feel that when listening to the album as a whole(which you really should do with most Floyd albums) makes it very relaxing and then at the same time flows into songs like Time or Brain Damage that are seperatley masterpeices of music. This albums subject is dark basically its about the effect time can have on any person and drive them insane (which of course means it's heavily influenced by Syd Barrett an earlier founding member of Pink Floyd who himself went crazy) and yet it never goes too dark and always contains an aire of humor, unlike their later album The Wall no doubt because of David Gilmour's heavy influence as oppose to Roger Waters. The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) The Beatles' on top form so it has to be a masterpeice. I mean this was their entry into the psychedelic rock scene that was going on with people like Jimi Hendrix, Pink Floyd (with The Piper Gates At Dawn) and to some extent Bob Dylan. However this really masters the genre in a mainstream sense. The Beatles used their past image and transformed it with the era. Songs on the album include Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds a paraody of LCD and vividly explaining Lennon's sons drawing which must have been combined with a acid trip to write. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965) This is my favorite Dylan album because of his diversity in it while still keeping to the main theme of Highway 61 and the people and events that you can encounter on it. It's really a folk album with the highway featuring as a somewhat of a folk tale, which is summed up nicley in the ending eleven minute track Desalation Row. Practically every track on the album is brilliant with the opening track being his ultimate alienation song Like A Rolling Stone and the track called Highway 61. It's a lot lighter than the previous mentioned albums due to it's nature, and it's nice to just relax and listen to it on a hot summers day since it has that summer vibe. Pink Floyd - The Division Bell (1994) This to me is the epitome of Pink Floyds re-discovery of their music after the Roger Waters led era which severley damped the mood to their music both with ego battles and which his music influence. You can definatley tell the lack of Waters presence (since he left the band in 1985). This is like the extreme of Floyds spacey feeling in their music which contrasts so much of The Wall as their most claustrophobic sound. Dark Side Of The Moon was really a cross between the two feelings. This wins over The Wall since The Wall is incredibly depressing - thats not to say it isn't brilliant because it is. So i should mention it here. The Wall has great songs and is theatrical rock music at it's best by far (live shows included and the film) but Waters had way to much influence on that one, and if Gilmour pushed himself a bit futher, i think it would have turned out better. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland - 1968 This has to be Hendrix's highlight of his unfortunatley shortly lived career due to his death in 1970. I love this album so much cos' of its breezy feel combined with a great dose of his unique style of rock and lyrics. My favourite song on the album is probably Crosstown Traffic however other great tracks include Voodoo Chile, Long Hot Summer Night, Burning Of The Midnight Lamp and a cover of Dylans All Along The Watchtower which Dylan said he always thinks of as a Hendrix song. Overall it's just a fun album full of orginality and great music.

What if she was hawt.

Jesus [bleep]ing christ. IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 and why the hell would more people have died if Iraq wasn't invaded, what the hell? Heres a little figures for you. Saddam came to power in something like 1979, in that time an estimated 100,000 people were killed because of him. Thats civilians. Since March 2003 an estimated 70,000 civilians have died due to the war. So basically your argument for going into Iraq "there would have maybe, probably been more terrorism if we hadn't gone into Iraq" and I am sure no (sane)country would go to war on something as hypothetical and ridiculous as that. However, attacks in Madrid and London were directly influenced by the coalition forces actions in the middle east including the war in Iraq, so really i don't know what the [bleep] you're talking about.

Stop exaggerating it's annoying. Every city has bad areas and Manchetser is no different, at least things are being done to help those areas.

It's a runescape forum, you're hardly going to find the greatest minds collabrating on whether the latest update "suckd!". Especially not on the general boards anyway.