crimsonking

Lets see... 1. Thats not even 1/4th of the games for the Wii, and you know it. 2. Several of those PS3 games are unconfirmed, even if they were confirmed they are most assuredly not going to come out for more than half a year from now if even that. Other games are assuredly going to be complete remakes from older games, just because all the specific genres have gone in every direction they can possibly go. Several of the games are being made for at least one other system, thus, why buy a $600 consol when you can play the same games on a consol worth half that? I do hold out some hope for some of those games, for Sony's sake, they had better be good, otherwise, the PS3 will more than assuredly bring Sony to its downfall.

I prefer Flash myself(mostly because its the only thing I've used other than Paint and Maya), but it costs, you can download a 30 day trail from macromedia.com though

Typical that my post is ignored and the topic changes before he posts again... Keep in mind that these games you CLAIM have been made 1000 times over are actually much different games, just with the same characters. I mean how exactly does Mario galaxies match up with Super Mario brothers? Or how does the new Metroid games the same as the the originals? The only things in common are the characters. And, talk about hypocracy, how many times have the games they have for the PS3 been made? Unlike you, gameplay is the thing I look to to match games, and to tell you the truth, the PS3 doesn't have much variety, I mean, how many FPSs, fighting games, and racing games can you make before they are all the exact same thing over and over again with the only difference being graphics? I mean look at GTA, has the game EVER changed since the first one came out? Same with Virtual fighter, there are even games from seperate series that can be matched up perfectly, anything that actually seems like a change with the PS3 either is a horrible idea, or its on every other system.

Actually, there are older fashioned controllers you can get for the Wii, so even the laziest of people can still play it. The PS3 isn't even showing any signs of trying to get any good games out any time soon, whereas the PS2 is still getting them in, all they would have to do is make these games go onto PS3 and it will shoot up in popularity, yet Sony still doesn't do it, I mean, God of War 2, Dawn of Mana, those 2 will assuredly become instant hits whether they are good or not, just because of their predecessors, thus if they put it on the PS3 their sales will get an automatic boost, but both of them are coming out for PS2.

Gameplay>Graphics, thus why the Wii is quickly gaining up to the Xbox360 and the PS3 is falling far behind, like I said earlier, if Sony would stop putting all its actually GOOD games onto the PS3 instead of putting them out for the PS2 then maybe they would stand a chance.

I dont know if you remember, but people got shot and trampled for the ps3 on release day Yeah, on one or two occasions, and I'm sure many have probably brought their PS3s back wanting all their money back once they realized that other than the Blu-ray nonsense the PS3 is basically a PS2 with slightly better graphics. Then what is an xbox compared to an xbox 360? and what is a Wii to a GC? OMG ITS A CONTROLLER U SO STUPID SHUT UP Xbox360 I've heard has better live options, but I haven't really seen them for myself, to tell you the truth I don't see much difference in that either, but this isn't even involved in the arguement at hand is it? And the Wii is actually the most distant from its previous consol seeing as it has the motion censor controls and online options, as well as it lets you download games from the more classic systems, so of course its a lot different from the Gamecube. And in retaliation for that very sudden immature outburst: OMG ITS A MOVIE PLAYER U SO STUPID SHUT UP

I dont know if you remember, but people got shot and trampled for the ps3 on release day Yeah, on one or two occasions, and I'm sure many have probably brought their PS3s back wanting all their money back once they realized that other than the Blu-ray nonsense the PS3 is basically a PS2 with slightly better graphics. You can be sure the same exact things happened with the Wiis and the Xbox360s, yet the PS3 incidents were the main ones televised for some reason, its inevitable that it would happen with all consols knowing how stupid and greedy people are.

There is a Browser based game called Dogs of the Seas, its got good graphics, but it won't hold your attention for more than an hour, if that. Other than that, all other browser based games I have seen are horrible. If you ever decide to try downloading, try Pristontale, both the graphics and the game play are awsome, only real downside is that there are very few things to do other than kill. Survival project is also great, but unfortunatly they announced that they will be shutting it down later this year. :( Maple story is ok, not great, but ok. And Ragnorok is awsome, though quests can get confusing and there is no real quest guide for the game that I have found. If you want to buy a mmo from the store, get Guild Wars, no fees except when you buy it and its a good game, though, depending on how good your computer is, it can get extremly laggy. Another one to look into is LOTR Online, I wouldn't normally recommend a pay per month game, but if you are even slightly interested, preorder it NOW, if you preorder the monthly price drops to 9.99 instead of 19.99, or if you want, you can pay a 1 time price of $200, you also get a beta of the game with your preorder that will let you move your character with absolutly everything it has onto the main game once it comes out, and you get access to 2 special in game items, you can't play the beta until March 30, but its still too good of a deal to pass up. This deal btw only goes for the USA, I believe people in the UK get a different deal, but I'm not entirely sure.

Actually Sony came out 2nd in the release date, so it wasnt late Yes they did but the wii was just a couple days later and look at the sales difference.... it's gigantic :thumbsup: =D> The Wii had a worldwide launch, the PS3 had a 2 country launch, the ps3 and wii sales in the US dont differ by very much Actually they do, in fact you can find a PS3 in absolutly any store that gets them shippede to them, any day of the week, most are probably left from the first shipments, Wiis on the otherhand are almost impossible to find, they completly sell out within the hour a store gets them in(This is no exaggeration, I've been trying to get one from a store that gets them in weekly for a couple months now with no luck whatsoever), there is a HUGE difference in sales of the Wii and the PS3 in the US, I'm not sure about any other country, but I'm sure they are doing the same way everywhere else. Edit: I was wrong on the last sentence, sorry.

Actually Sony came out 2nd in the release date, so it wasnt late It hasn't come out in the UK yet from what I've heard.

It means corruption, I wasn't sure what the symbol attached to it was.

Something I don't really get with Sony is that, they are still making all the good RPGs on the PS2, the main thing Sony has won the hearts of many gamers for their rpgs and yet they seem to be refusing to make any for the PS3 when it could bring more attention to it, I mean they made Rogue Galaxies for PS2 late last month and it would have definatly been a great release for the PS3 and at the end of next month Dawn of Mana for the PS2 will come out which would have definatly attracted a lot of people to the PS3 seeing as the Mana series is very popular. They are even making God of War 2 for the PS2, is it just me or does it seem Sony isn't even trying to make the PS3 a good system?

There are Muslims that can take jokes about their religion, and there are Christians who can do the same, as well as those on both sides that absolutly won't stand for it, if they had the power, I'm sure there would be Christians that would take it that far or even farther than that. Not flaming or trying to start a fight, just pointing out the obvious truth. More on topic: Its nice to hear that some people have a sense of humor on religion.

1. There are only 2 ways to end a war, diplomacy, or just kill everyone on one side, which btw is close to impossible, you kill everyone in one group and another pops up and seeks revenge, a large group like the one we are facing, will more than likely have many allies and sympathizers, in the end this could turn into WWIII. 2. Yes indeed we are fairly powerful, but the most powerful country in the world? I doubt it. 3.There are many other examples other than that, lets see, the whole issue with gay marriage is a big one, marriage is a religious ceremony is it not? Whatever happened to seperation of church and state as well as world equality? Can't homosexuals have the right to a marriage if they want it? It doesn't hurt anybody does it? And back to taxes, as I stated before, our ancestors seperated itself from being under British control partially because of taxes, and now we bring it back? I know back when it started we were in somewhat of a crisis, and yeah, if it would have ended back then like the government said it would, it would have been fine, yet they kept it up, and now these taxes are used for unknown reasons, and now we have tax returns at a set time of the year, which of gives part of our money back, yet doesn't that just prove that all this time all of these taxes have been for no reason? 4. Indeed, so why arn't you letting other countries have the chance to evolve before you start calling them lesser than you? 5. Fine, I give you that, but you still can't say that this isn't about American dominance else we could have taken out this problem long ago. thank you sir, I respect crimson for a respectable, intelligent debater, even if he calls me names lol. Makes the world more interesting to have different views, I believe in mine, he believes in his, neither is willing to give in or change our minds, but maybe just maybe we both get another view, thus expand our own minds just a bit :) Agreed, thank you for the compliments, I am beginning to respect you as well Kronh, at first you really did look like those war mongers that have only joined the war to kill(No, this is not just media hype(I never really care much to pay attention to the media anyways) my cousin is a marine in the war and has spent some time in Iraq and he has some marine friends that are seriously like that, and to tell you the truth I'm starting to question his motives as well.), but it seems you are better than that, this is becoming a rather interesting debate.

1) It's not pro war in reality, more like Pro-Peace. Sometimes you have to remove a few radicals to bring peace to the population. 2) Been around the world? I have, spent anytime in the middle east, china, asia, europe? I have, go see the world and you will realize just how great we have it in America. 3) My theory on the whole privacy debate, if you have nothing to hide, what do you care? I wouldnt give two craps if they wanted to record my life 24/7, I have nothing to hide. The guilty do though huh, wonder why there are so many that want to hide...hmmmmmmmmm, if I got to lose my privacy so they can catch criminals...so be it. 4) rofl...buy into media much? ever been there? every studied their history? a Great Nation...well I will give you they have a neat history, and have been around a long time. ..let's see what is my favorite mental picture of china...hmmmmmmm ah, i remember, it was the sight of hundreds of baby girls tied to clay pots and plastic buckets so they wouldnt have to change them, as they sat and cried...hungry, dirty, because they were "lesser citizens"....in the state run "foster system".....or maybe running over a guy with a tank who had the audacity to question the government......research, learn, then open mouth and make an informed opinion. 5) meant every word of that. Joined the military at 17 yo in 1986, and until you actually walk down the streets of Bahgdad, and see the bodies of women and children from the last brain washed, worthless piece of #### who decided to indiscrimanately blow himself up for his idealogy..or the 5 yo little girl they send out into the street in front of our convoy, strapped with explosives......or hiding behind women and children as they shoot at us, knowing we value innocent life to much to fire back...yeah your right, and I will happily remove each and every one of them if I could, as painfully as possible. 6) good idea, stop while you're ahead. 1. War only leads to more war, it may get peaceful in between for a bit of time but until you solve your problems with another country without killing them, they are always going to hold a grudge against you for it. 2. I don't doubt that many are worse off than us, though we still certainly arn't the most powerful country in the world, you act as if we have complete control over everything and everyone should take every command we make, and that is one of the main reasons why America sucks so much, our egos are so big that we think we should act as gods over everyone else, we do not hold supreme power over the world, we are no better than anyone else, get over it. 3. You are missing the entire point, our freedom is fading away due to the control freaks we have in our government there have even been cases of them completly ignoring the constitution, that was suppost to be the supreme laws that NO ONE can go against, to make their laws. 4. Actually, I have learned a lot about Chinese history, and sure, its not quite pretty, but you can't exactly pass our history off as perfect either, since you are talking about "Lesser citizens" may I bring up our past with African American slaves, poorly treated immigrant workers, in fact, until recently, no one was completly equal to white males, as for them running over a guy who questioned the government, may I take you back to the 60s, when entire groups of war protestors were beaten, some to death, just because they were against a government decision to go to war in Vietnam. 5. So you take joy in killing these people? You do realize that not every one of these people that have been killed by the US have done such things as you have described, you are basically stereotyping over a few incidents. 6. I only stopped with that post, I never said anything about stopping entirely

Is that a "t3h phr33 m4s0ns r tak1ng 0v3r" conspiracy thing? - EDIT: HOLY COW, that symbol is really there, I looked on wikimapia. Look yourself: http://www.wikimapia.org/#y=38901053&x= ... =0&m=a&v=2 Heh I recommend visiting the Smithsonian. I thought i heard that the star wasn't complete, that one line segment is missing....i could be wrong though Yup, didn't notice that until you said something, but if you look close enough the lower segment of the line connecting the top right point with the bottom left is missing. Still funny as hell. For all those who don't know what the top symbol means, its corruption, I have no idea what the other symbol connected to it means though.

Heres your reason, the world already sucks enough, why make it worse by killing yourself over it, when you could instead try making it better? Or, you'll die eventually anyways, so why not live out your life and see if things start looking up before your death?

Just the arguement I would have expected out of the pro war side of this. I do agree with you on one point, though not for the same reasons, the USA should take care of its own problems before going around telling all other nations what they should do to fix theirs, thats an ultimate DURR move there, we can't learn to take care of our own country, though we think we actually have the authority to tell others what to do, because apparently, our way of doing things is the only way of doing things right. :roll: Sure, we were heros in other wars(Even if our involvement was for personal and/or selfish reasons), but now we are just starting them cause we let all that go to our heads and think we must keep up our reputation, when really all we are doing is screwing ourselves over. Freedom is good, yes, but really, all the US is is a joke, we claim freedom, we may sorta show freedom, but if you would look at some of the stuff that is being passed or already in circulation, you would see that our "Freedom" is quickly diminishing, listening in on phone calls, watching people's actions on the internet, taxes(Wasn't that a reason our ancestors left Europe in the first place?), the rich pretty much get what they want, yet the poor are pretty much just outta luck, this war is another example did we actually get a say in this war? No, the government basically just started shoving troops out there out of nowhere, has anyone ever wondered how we started out searching for Bin Laden in Afghanistan and somehow ended up in Iraq searching for weapons of mass destruction that we sold to them? And, heres a reality check for you, China is one of the best nations in the world, the US is definatly not the most powerful nation(Economically, maybe, though last time I checked (Which was a very long time ago) we were sorta battling Japan for that position), you are overestimating us WAY too much, we are one of the most powerful, but not the most powerful. And about your comment about "Burying worthless people who slaughter each other over religion", why exactly are you there personally? From your post right there I can pretty much guess your another one of those sickos who joined in this war just to kill these "worthless people". I can not tell you how many of your kind I have met, thinking, "Its going to be AWSOME in Iraq, I get to kill people and be looked up to for it" it seems to be a very common mentality from what I have seen, not saying all soldiers think this way, but many do and it completly sickens me. I am going to stop here for now, as I don't want to spend my entire night on this one post.

Problem is, the news likes making stuff up to get a better story and reaction from it, so I wouldn't doubt it if that was completly made up, and even if it was true, like Nadril said, the dude could just be playing the 'I'm just an innocent child who's mind has been warped by the evil video games' act to get less of the blame pointed at him.

Good, lets hope the US pulls out as well, even though they will more than likely just throw the issue around for several more years until anything gets decided upon, but wasn't Bushes push to send more troops rejected?

Late owl, else I would rarely be online at all and would barely have any time for myself. I usually stay up til about 1-3am though I have been known to stay up until or (Very rarely) past 6am

I just love how this always finds a way into the violent teen news storys, whether its about stealing, reckless driving, breaking and entering, or killing, if its with a teen "Video games caused it". I also love how the blame for homeless killings in this story goes directly to teenagers, I mean what the hell? They make things look like teens are hell spawn and none are to be trusted, especially the gaming kind, which in real life, the teen gamers would be too busy playing video games to go out and cause trouble. Have you ever wondered how many adults have done the same things whenever you read stories like this? Sorry if this has already been discussed, I'm too lazy to read through the entire thread tonight.

http://pointlessbutcool.com/gadgets/rub ... atling_gun Just think of the chaos I can cause with that :twisted: I'd more than likely get a Wii too with a few games and save the rest.

I would rather it be a 2 child act than just 1, having siblings can be annoying, but from what I've heard, being an only child can be pretty bad for a kid. What about a 2 child limit? And that's your 2000th post. If anyone has read Ender's game, the idea of letting families have two children with basic priveleges (sp?), and any children after that not getting things such as public education, etc., could be a good idea to not punish people for having 2+ kids, but to make them not want to have more than 2. (like sumpta) Pardon my sentences, it's too late for me to be thinking straight >_<. That would be cruel, making one child pay the consequences for their parents mistake, it wouldn't be able to help being born last. If the government wants to control the population of the US maybe it should think of putting in some REAL border controls, cause the way they have been doing things with the southern border(and perhaps even the north) completly sucks. Not that I have a problem with Mexican and Cuban immigrants, but way too many of them sneak across the borders every year.

You like Yugioh? Yeah.. You must be pretty strange.