April 5, 200719 yr "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." Timothy II 3:1-4 It is written in the word of God, that as days pass, the morality of the world crumbles. "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived". Timothy II 3:13 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Mathew 24:10-12 We had morals once in a society long ago. However, with no source to back up a moral to prove its right, to prove its wrong, it only becomes ones belief, a opinion on the matter, darkness covers its true nature and act of life. People become self righteous, and try to earn the afterlife with good deeds. But heaven is a free gift. No, seeing morality topics pop up is not someone who just happens to think differently.. we have changed. The sad thing is.. we have changed so much, to reverse this step will hurt, yet we are bound to destruction. One man emailed my sister, saying how awful it was that a Christian station was on when he walked into his hotel room (she does emails). That, what had he been atheists and didn't believe in Christ? How dare we spread religious views on him. I pity the world today and tommorow and the next. I only hope everyone gains alittle wisdom to see the future of their actions, and realize what its going to cost them to continue in this way of living. ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me
April 5, 200719 yr OK so two idiots hold a sign saying some crap they'll get arrested for, no need to make a topic defending yourself (lol)... Your name is "bet you fail", and you're starting a business with your mom? I'm not even going to touch that.....
April 5, 200719 yr OK so two idiots hold a sign saying some crap they'll get arrested for, no need to make a topic defending yourself (lol)... I hope they don't get arrested. Then they'll start blaming homosexuals for the loss of free speech (even though hate speech isn't covered by free speech)
April 5, 200719 yr Author OK so two idiots hold a sign saying some crap they'll get arrested for, no need to make a topic defending yourself (lol)... I hope they don't get arrested. Then they'll start blaming homosexuals for the loss of free speech (even though hate speech isn't covered by free speech) They are not getting arrested because of the human rights law which allows freedom of religious expression. Hmm reading last two pages I thought of the bathroom situation and what if gay person was allowed to get into opposite sexes bathroom because they feel too ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâhornyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ in their own sexed one. A friend to all is a friend to none.
April 5, 200719 yr Hmm reading last two pages I thought of the bathroom situation and what if gay person was allowed to get into opposite sexes bathroom because they feel too ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâhornyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ in their own sexed one. Seriously, stop flattering yourself. Homosexuals are not rampant horny pervents, in fact they're some of the more conservative and gentle people i've met, compared to the more accurate stereotype of the rampant raging heterosexual. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo"
April 5, 200719 yr XplsvBam, do actually have an issue with homosexual people or just the idea of it? And is it because of your religious beliefs or just personal sentiments? Neither, its not my battle. My problem is people trying to convince everyone they need to be accepting of homosexuals. Which isn't right. They should respect other people's opinions. I feel homosexuality is wrong, so I'm not going to allow it in my society. Those are my beliefs. Practice what you preach, friend. If you don't like it, don't go around saying it isn't right or it shouldn't be allowed in society while preaching to respect other peoples opinions when you clearly don't care what thier opinions are. Did I interpret his comment correctly? because such a blatant conflicting idea seems too wierd a mistake...
April 5, 200719 yr Author Hmm reading last two pages I thought of the bathroom situation and what if gay person was allowed to get into opposite sexes bathroom because they feel too ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹ÃâhornyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ in their own sexed one. Seriously, stop flattering yourself. Homosexuals are not rampant horny pervents, in fact they're some of the more conservative and gentle people i've met, compared to the more accurate stereotype of the rampant raging heterosexual. But sir nether am I, but IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢m not allowed to use the same bathroom as a woman :roll: Not that I want to, it's just a thought.. A friend to all is a friend to none.
April 5, 200719 yr "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." Timothy II 3:1-4 It is written in the word of God, that as days pass, the morality of the world crumbles. "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived". Timothy II 3:13 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Mathew 24:10-12 We had morals once in a society long ago. However, with no source to back up a moral to prove its right, to prove its wrong, it only becomes ones belief, a opinion on the matter, darkness covers its true nature and act of life. People become self righteous, and try to earn the afterlife with good deeds. But heaven is a free gift. No, seeing morality topics pop up is not someone who just happens to think differently.. we have changed. The sad thing is.. we have changed so much, to reverse this step will hurt, yet we are bound to destruction. One man emailed my sister, saying how awful it was that a Christian station was on when he walked into his hotel room (she does emails). That, what had he been atheists and didn't believe in Christ? How dare we spread religious views on him. I pity the world today and tommorow and the next. I only hope everyone gains alittle wisdom to see the future of their actions, and realize what its going to cost them to continue in this way of living. ~Defender~ When you say the world has changed from being moral to immoral what time was this word ever moral? During Word War One and Two? When? The world has always been an unsettles "immoral" place where wars continue. Sorry to break it to you, there has never been a standard of utopia in the world. And this ain't a dystopia we are living in. Infact the world is becoming more moral, what with civil rights and the like. So what the hell are you talking about? With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
April 5, 200719 yr Author "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." Timothy II 3:1-4 It is written in the word of God, that as days pass, the morality of the world crumbles. "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived". Timothy II 3:13 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Mathew 24:10-12 We had morals once in a society long ago. However, with no source to back up a moral to prove its right, to prove its wrong, it only becomes ones belief, a opinion on the matter, darkness covers its true nature and act of life. People become self righteous, and try to earn the afterlife with good deeds. But heaven is a free gift. No, seeing morality topics pop up is not someone who just happens to think differently.. we have changed. The sad thing is.. we have changed so much, to reverse this step will hurt, yet we are bound to destruction. One man emailed my sister, saying how awful it was that a Christian station was on when he walked into his hotel room (she does emails). That, what had he been atheists and didn't believe in Christ? How dare we spread religious views on him. I pity the world today and tommorow and the next. I only hope everyone gains alittle wisdom to see the future of their actions, and realize what its going to cost them to continue in this way of living. ~Defender~ When you say the world has changed from being moral to immoral what time was this word ever moral? During Word War One and Two? When? The world has always been an unsettles "immoral" place where wars continue. Sorry to break it to you, there has never been a standard of utopia in the world. And this ain't a dystopia we are living in. Infact the world is becoming more moral, what with civil rights and the like. So what the hell are you talking about? In his eyes the world was perfect in the garden of Eden until man sinned, then it fell and became immoral A friend to all is a friend to none.
April 5, 200719 yr Every homophobe seems to think they're irresistible to the same sex. Haha, so true. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo"
April 5, 200719 yr Author haha that's funny =D> :o have you actually surveyed every single homophobe on this planet to make that statement?. A friend to all is a friend to none.
April 5, 200719 yr "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." Timothy II 3:1-4 It is written in the word of God, that as days pass, the morality of the world crumbles. "But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived". Timothy II 3:13 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold." Mathew 24:10-12 We had morals once in a society long ago. However, with no source to back up a moral to prove its right, to prove its wrong, it only becomes ones belief, a opinion on the matter, darkness covers its true nature and act of life. People become self righteous, and try to earn the afterlife with good deeds. But heaven is a free gift. No, seeing morality topics pop up is not someone who just happens to think differently.. we have changed. The sad thing is.. we have changed so much, to reverse this step will hurt, yet we are bound to destruction. One man emailed my sister, saying how awful it was that a Christian station was on when he walked into his hotel room (she does emails). That, what had he been atheists and didn't believe in Christ? How dare we spread religious views on him. I pity the world today and tommorow and the next. I only hope everyone gains alittle wisdom to see the future of their actions, and realize what its going to cost them to continue in this way of living. ~Defender~ When you say the world has changed from being moral to immoral what time was this word ever moral? During Word War One and Two? When? The world has always been an unsettles "immoral" place where wars continue. Sorry to break it to you, there has never been a standard of utopia in the world. And this ain't a dystopia we are living in. Infact the world is becoming more moral, what with civil rights and the like. So what the hell are you talking about? In his eyes the world was perfect in the garden of Eden until man sinned, then it fell and became immoral No, he said; We had morals once in a society long ago. However, with no source to back up a moral to prove its right, to prove its wrong, it only becomes ones belief, a opinion on the matter, darkness covers its true nature and act of life. Adam and Eve is not a society, so which society did we perfectly live in utopia by your morals. Then adopt the evil objective reasoning and begin the slippery slope to "immorality". Neither, its not my battle. My problem is people trying to convince everyone they need to be accepting of homosexuals. Which isn't right. They should respect other people's opinions. I feel homosexuality is wrong, so I'm not going to allow it in my society. Those are my beliefs. Your beliefs don't make sense then, how can you "respect each others opinions" then not allow people who think differentley to you to live in society? I don't care whether or not you like or dislike homosexuality, what i care about is when you incite harm to homosexual people. Rejection from society is harm, face it your nothing other than a fascist. As if you throw out people who are homosexual, i guess you are going to throw out people who master|bate, or lie, or commit any type of immoral act? Edit: Also "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away." Doesn't mention homosexuality at all. Infact, Jesus didn't really mention homosexuality at all being bad. Which brings about the question, if it really was such an evil, and immoral act why did he never mention it as such? With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
April 5, 200719 yr XplsvBam, do actually have an issue with homosexual people or just the idea of it? And is it because of your religious beliefs or just personal sentiments? Neither, its not my battle. My problem is people trying to convince everyone they need to be accepting of homosexuals. Which isn't right. They should respect other people's opinions. I feel homosexuality is wrong, so I'm not going to allow it in my society. Those are my beliefs. Practice what you preach, friend. If you don't like it, don't go around saying it isn't right or it shouldn't be allowed in society while preaching to respect other peoples opinions when you clearly don't care what thier opinions are. Did I interpret his comment correctly? because such a blatant conflicting idea seems too wierd a mistake... If you would read what I was posting you would realize that I was saying that people that think homosexuals should be more accepted should take a leaf out of their own book and respect other peoples opinions. Thats I'll I was saying.
April 5, 200719 yr You're too caught up into telling others how to live their lives, you forget. Would Jesus have said "Lets throw homosexuals out of society"? With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
April 5, 200719 yr Well the programme was repeated last night so I decided to watch it 1) How absolutely dare they have posters saying death to diana (This was becuase she was nice to everyone including homosexuales) ......Makes me physically sick 2) I think the guy who runs that organisation in a complete nutcase..I think he was was raped as a little boy by his dad or something and now he hates homosexuals.... Tbf He thought he knew everyhting but it was just his interpretation and his way of getting around questions was lame 3) That 21 year old asking her mum if she could go for a coffee :uhh: WTF 4) Something that rele annoyed me is them calling sex . fornicating....They wouldnt let there children go out on a date Sex ftw..It is why we were made
April 5, 200719 yr You're too caught up into telling others how to live their lives, you forget. Would Jesus have said "Lets throw homosexuals out of society"? Thats foolishness. Do we have laws? Why do we have laws if we are telling other people what to do and how to live their lives? Better not go out and kill anyone today.. but then again, because its law, the government is telling you what to do. Jesus said that Homosexuality is a sin.. so to continue in that way of life, would be to continue to a path of darkness. "I met some really good nice people who are homosexual". Yah, thats great their living good morals, but they aren't living the right way of life. "Who are you to judge", I judge not, its God that judges them, I just pass the information along. "What if we don't believe in God?" Then I'll definatly pray for you and if you need help, which you will definatly at some point down the road, you can reach me in PM. To put it simple on how to live the right way of life, every act you ever commit, ask yourself "does this contribute more to life, or more to death?" or.. "Is this a love act, or a hate act?". Homosexuality to me is not a love act, its a lust act, and we all know 2 people of the same sex cannot produce life itself, so its the wrong way to live your life. Mans eyes were not made to lust apon another man, and neither was womens eyes made to lust apon another woman. There is nothing in the universe that has the power to take away your free will. Not even God can do this, so when people say they do not have a choice and God made them that way (yeah God made them to sin on purpose, counter-productive), its a lie. Its a excuse to cover up their lusts. The whole "I can't help it thing", doesn't exist. That is concerning the sin. Concerning the person, you accept them reguardless of their background, you express love to them, and help them in anyway you can. They are your brothers and sisters, but the problem with christians is when someone gets rude, all of a sudden they are the enemy. Hate spreads with hate, and alot of strife breeds. No no, Gods purpose is to love all men at all times reguardless of all circumstances. Thats the love walk that God is trying to develop unto us. Hopefully I'll get there someday \ ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me
April 5, 200719 yr You're too caught up into telling others how to live their lives, you forget. Would Jesus have said "Lets throw homosexuals out of society"? Thats foolishness. Do we have laws? Why do we have laws if we are telling other people what to do and how to live their lives? Better not go out and kill anyone today.. but then again, because its law, the government is telling you what to do. Religion is not law, it's all about how we should live. Some of it overlaps with law, some does not. Jesus said that Homosexuality is a sin.. so to continue in that way of life, would be to continue to a path of darkness. Where did Jesus say this? To put it simple on how to live the right way of life, every act you ever commit, ask yourself "does this contribute more to life, or more to death?" or.. "Is this a love act, or a hate act?". Homosexuality to me is not a love act, its a lust act, and we all know 2 people of the same sex cannot produce life itself, so its the wrong way to live your life. Mans eyes were not made to lust apon another man, and neither was womens eyes made to lust apon another woman. Would you say sex using a condom is an act of lust and not love in all circumstances? If not your point is not valid. Anyway, thats a subjective opinion and I'm sure many gay people will tell you that it is an act of love. There is nothing in the universe that has the power to take away your free will. Not even God can do this, so when people say they do not have a choice and God made them that way (yeah God made them to sin on purpose, counter-productive), its a lie. Its a excuse to cover up their lusts. The whole "I can't help it thing", doesn't exist. Your blurring the lines between opinion and fact. It's not proven either way if someone is gay because of genetics or enviroment. The only reason you're against it being Genetics is because that would mean God made them that way, and therefore their feelings are fine. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
April 5, 200719 yr You're too caught up into telling others how to live their lives, you forget. Would Jesus have said "Lets throw homosexuals out of society"? Thats foolishness. Do we have laws? Why do we have laws if we are telling other people what to do and how to live their lives? Better not go out and kill anyone today.. but then again, because its law, the government is telling you what to do. Religion is not law, it's all about how we should live. Some of it overlaps with law, some does not. Jesus said that Homosexuality is a sin.. so to continue in that way of life, would be to continue to a path of darkness. Where did Jesus say this? To put it simple on how to live the right way of life, every act you ever commit, ask yourself "does this contribute more to life, or more to death?" or.. "Is this a love act, or a hate act?". Homosexuality to me is not a love act, its a lust act, and we all know 2 people of the same sex cannot produce life itself, so its the wrong way to live your life. Mans eyes were not made to lust apon another man, and neither was womens eyes made to lust apon another woman. Would you say sex using a condom is an act of lust and not love in all circumstances? If not your point is not valid. Anyway, thats a subjective opinion and I'm sure many gay people will tell you that it is an act of love. There is nothing in the universe that has the power to take away your free will. Not even God can do this, so when people say they do not have a choice and God made them that way (yeah God made them to sin on purpose, counter-productive), its a lie. Its a excuse to cover up their lusts. The whole "I can't help it thing", doesn't exist. Your blurring the lines between opinion and fact. It's not proven either way if someone is gay because of genetics or enviroment. The only reason you're against it being Genetics is because that would mean God made them that way, and therefore their feelings are fine. Religion is not law, it's all about how we should live. Some of it overlaps with law, some does not. Where do you think the law of the governement is founded apon? Americas law was born from christianity. Yet gave everyman equal rights to believe anything he wanted to. Now days, atheists are trying to take God out of everything simpley because "they get offended" at the G word. I hope people of their faiths stand up and say otherwise. Where did Jesus say this? My bad, its actually in the old testament where I read it. But it does concern homosexuality, I believe in duteronmy somewhere. Would you say sex using a condom is an act of lust and not love in all circumstances? If not your point is not valid. Anyway, thats a subjective opinion and I'm sure many gay people will tell you that it is an act of love. Sex using a condom is COMPLETELY irrelevant! No, i'm not avoiding your question. But thats the truth. Its a completely different case situation, after the first case (what I said above) is solved. But you also have to be more specific. A guy doesn't need a condom if he's have sex with another guy.. so i'm asumming your refering to a woman. The purpose of a Condom is to prevent pregnacy, how a condom has to do anything with lust is beyond me.. could you explain more what your getting at? Now assuming your refering to guys.. that still is irrelavent to the issue above. How does a condom serve as one's conduct and choice in the situation? And yes, many guys will tell you their in love, just as the average 16 year old who you try to convince its really not love, he's basing his choices on a emotional feeling. Your blurring the lines between opinion and fact. It's not proven either way if someone is gay because of genetics or enviroment. The only reason you're against it being Genetics is because that would mean God made them that way, and therefore their feelings are fine First, even if someone was genetical altered that way, that does not take away their choices in life. They can still choose to be single or married to a woman. Its not so much genetics or the environment I have a problem with. Its the fact that they say they have no choice in the matter, which is a lie. You always have a choice. Infact, its so simple, its like this. Everyone in the world has different tastes. Some people love the taste of veggies. Others do not. Now because we are genetically altered that way, do we not have a choice in what we eat? Of course we do, we can eat all the terrible stuff we hate (with alittle discipline included) and munch on it all the way. In the same way, a person saying he is for homosexuality, is not because of a gene, its because of choice. He had to accept homosexuality first before he could act on homosexuality. He or she always has a choice in the matter. Therefor, when they stand before God, and God asks them.. why did you do that? I would love to hear em say "its in my gene's".. God's gonna be really shocked with that answer.. Creator of all things. ~Defender~ If you love me, send me a PM. 8 - Love me2 - Hate me
April 5, 200719 yr My bad, its actually in the old testament where I read it. But it does concern homosexuality, I believe in duteronmy somewhere. Yeah, Jesus the son of God never mentioned the immorality of homosexuality, what an awful sin it must be then! Would you say sex using a condom is an act of lust and not love in all circumstances? If not your point is not valid. Anyway, thats a subjective opinion and I'm sure many gay people will tell you that it is an act of love. Sex using a condom is COMPLETELY irrelevant! No, i'm not avoiding your question. But thats the truth. Its a completely different case situation, after the first case (what I said above) is solved. But you also have to be more specific. A guy doesn't need a condom if he's have sex with another guy.. so i'm asumming your refering to a woman. The purpose of a Condom is to prevent pregnacy, how a condom has to do anything with lust is beyond me.. could you explain more what your getting at? Sorry, i was refering to man and woman, and you said; we all know 2 people of the same sex cannot produce life itself, so its the wrong way to live your life. So man and woman having sex, using a condom can't create life. So it's the wrong way to live according to your rationality. Now assuming your refering to guys.. that still is irrelavent to the issue above. How does a condom serve as one's conduct and choice in the situation? And yes, many guys will tell you their in love, just as the average 16 year old who you try to convince its really not love, he's basing his choices on a emotional feeling. So grown men are incapable of making decisions about themself, and your a better candidate to make that decision for them? Your blurring the lines between opinion and fact. It's not proven either way if someone is gay because of genetics or enviroment. The only reason you're against it being Genetics is because that would mean God made them that way, and therefore their feelings are fine First, even if someone was genetical altered that way, that does not take away their choices in life. They can still choose to be single or married to a woman. Its not so much genetics or the environment I have a problem with. Its the fact that they say they have no choice in the matter, which is a lie. You always have a choice. Infact, its so simple, its like this. Everyone in the world has different tastes. Some people love the taste of veggies. Others do not. Now because we are genetically altered that way, do we not have a choice in what we eat? Of course we do, we can eat all the terrible stuff we hate (with alittle discipline included) and munch on it all the way. In the same way, a person saying he is for homosexuality, is not because of a gene, its because of choice. He had to accept homosexuality first before he could act on homosexuality. He or she always has a choice in the matter. Therefor, when they stand before God, and God asks them.. why did you do that? I would love to hear em say "its in my gene's".. God's gonna be really shocked with that answer.. Creator of all things. If it's genetical then God created people to have those feelings. Meaning those feelings are not the product of Satan, or sin. So why should acting on them be? Where do you think the law of the governement is founded apon? Americas law was born from christianity. Yet gave everyman equal rights to believe anything he wanted to. Now days, atheists are trying to take God out of everything simpley because "they get offended" at the G word. I hope people of their faiths stand up and say otherwise. Ridiculous, America is founded upon the seperation of church and state ever read the first amendment? And the founding fathers were not even Christian. With so many trees in the city you could see the spring coming each day until a night of warm wind would bring it suddenly in one morning. Sometimes the heavy cold rains would beat it back so that it would seem that it would never come and that you were losing a season out of your life. But you knew that there would always be the spring as you knew the river would flow again after it was frozen. When the cold rains kept on and killed the spring, it was as though a young person had died for no reason. In those days though the spring always came finally but it was frightening that it had nearly failed.
April 5, 200719 yr Now days, atheists are trying to take God out of everything simpley because "they get offended" at the G word. I hope people of their faiths stand up and say otherwise. Actually, we get offended by people like you denying perfectly good people their human rights.
April 5, 200719 yr Yeah, Jesus the son of God never mentioned the immorality of homosexuality, what an awful sin it must be then! I'll give some input on what the Bible says on the topic. Jesus said he didn't come to replace the law but rather to fulfill it. The law(referring to old testement law) says homosexuality is wrong and Jesus said to support the law. Jesus was also against sexual immorality between a man and a woman. It's not like its a one way street against just homosexuals If it's genetical then God created people to have those feelings. Meaning those feelings are not the product of Satan, or sin. So why should acting on them be? 1. It can't be shown it is genetic. 2. If it was genetic then every pair of identical twins that had one homosexual member would mean automatically that both of them were homosexual. That isn't the case. 3. They can't find a "gay" gene. 4. People have reverted from being homosexual which wouldn't be possible if it was genetic. I personally think people are born with natural inclinations but these natural inclinations are not written in stone which is what would happen if it was purely genetic. Just because someone had the natural inclination to have a short temper and want to beat their head against a tree when they got mad doesn't mean "God made them this way so we should just accept how God made them and let them be." It is the same concept.
April 5, 200719 yr If it's genetical then God created people to have those feelings. Meaning those feelings are not the product of Satan, or sin. So why should acting on them be? 1. It can't be shown it is genetic. 2. If it was genetic then every pair of identical twins that had one homosexual member would mean automatically that both of them were homosexual. That isn't the case. 3. They can't find a "gay" gene. 4. People have reverted from being homosexual which wouldn't be possible if it was genetic. I personally think people are born with natural inclinations but these natural inclinations are not written in stone which is what would happen if it was purely genetic. Just because someone had the natural inclination to have a short temper and want to beat their head against a tree when they got mad doesn't mean "God made them this way so we should just accept how God made them and let them be." It is the same concept. I think we can remove genetics from the question. As I said before, it is most likely the result of a hormone triggered around puberty (which explains why people are confused throughout puberty before coming out of the closet, and can also explain bisexuality). And this hormone would be the product of a maladaptation, look it up. Me doing staff.
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