kuhasa Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 they released skill capes so members get a new items AGAIN. and F2P'ers get left with nothing, so more F2P'ers become members! NO!!! most of F2Ps aren't members cuz they can't pay!!! So with less stuff to F2Ps more of them will quit and as i said, gonna give bad publicity My stats Quited RuneScape-17 July 2007, Still fighting for f2p rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhasa Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 No. True they got a 99 skill, but they are f2p. Members are PAYING for a reason. F2Pers arn't suppos to be getting all the benificts of members, even if it is only a small cape. Look here Most people don't pay FOR the achiviement cape....most buy because of the benefits that membership gives like more bank space,acess to all area in the game world, etc... But some people train skills like cooking at member because have more thing to cook than in FTP What im saying thats FTPs should have cape with these bonuses: Def in all stats:+4 Don't be able to get trimmed only untrimmed ones Prayer bonuses at least in +2 And the skill simbol in the cape Almost the same as member but with less bonuses as PTP Thats pointless. Who actully wares the cape for the prayer and def bonuses? IF you are so crazy abut em, buy a obby cape But we aren't saying that we wanna the obby cape...we wanna ACHIEVEMENT CAPES!!!! Thats kinda diference dont? well im just saying the bonuses that F2Ps want like Prayer (few things give) and Def bonuses (better than normal capes that we get) THAT what I wanted to say not about the obby one What? You jsut went on blabbering about def and prayer bonueses. And besdies bottom line YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVALIGE simple as that At least i write correctly My stats Quited RuneScape-17 July 2007, Still fighting for f2p rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirlessWig Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Well i'm a member first of all and yes I think they should get capes as well. Getting a 99 on f2p is way harder than on members. Skillcapes are to show off your achievment, it's even more of an achievment for f2p but they can't show off with it. Don't think there would be much difference if Jagex changed them to be f2p as well. Maybe the price of raw materials would go up again but that would stabilise after a while, just like it did when they introduced them to members. Click here for my guide on how to solo the D Kings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhasa Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Well i'm a member first of all and yes I think they should get capes as well. Getting a 99 on f2p is way harder than on members. Skillcapes are to show off your achievment, it's even more of an achievment for f2p but they can't show off with it. Don't think there would be much difference if Jagex changed them to be f2p as well. Maybe the price of raw materials would go up again but that would stabilise after a while, just like it did when they introduced them to members. finnaly one member giving support...well at least i think but what he said is true, raw materials are going to have price up@ My stats Quited RuneScape-17 July 2007, Still fighting for f2p rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimm Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 On a gaming and personal standpoint, they should. Forget what Jagex wants, is not part of the discussion. The debate is whether they should, not whether they will. As Achievement Capes goes, their purpose is to recognize those who had reached 99 in a given skill. Thats all. And no matter how you look at it, getting 99 in F2P is by far bigger achievement than ANY 99 skill in Members. Looking at achievement, the only difference is that you pay $5, they don't. I'm going to respectfully disagree. To me, as a member, there are a lot more options available for maxing out a skill than there are for non-members. Personally speaking, I am more impressed by seeing a non-member with 99 than a member with 99. yes a non greedy member keep it up chicky ur great!! my bro said,"get a life" so i asked "where do i download that...98% Of teenagers surround their minds with rap music, if you're part of the 2% that stayed with rock, put this in your signature, ROCK IS BETTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned_Nex Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 No. True they got a 99 skill, but they are f2p. Members are PAYING for a reason. F2Pers arn't suppos to be getting all the benificts of members, even if it is only a small cape. Look here Most people don't pay FOR the achiviement cape....most buy because of the benefits that membership gives like more bank space,acess to all area in the game world, etc... But some people train skills like cooking at member because have more thing to cook than in FTP What im saying thats FTPs should have cape with these bonuses: Def in all stats:+4 Don't be able to get trimmed only untrimmed ones Prayer bonuses at least in +2 And the skill simbol in the cape Almost the same as member but with less bonuses as PTP Thats pointless. Who actully wares the cape for the prayer and def bonuses? IF you are so crazy abut em, buy a obby cape But we aren't saying that we wanna the obby cape...we wanna ACHIEVEMENT CAPES!!!! Thats kinda diference dont? well im just saying the bonuses that F2Ps want like Prayer (few things give) and Def bonuses (better than normal capes that we get) THAT what I wanted to say not about the obby one What? You jsut went on blabbering about def and prayer bonueses. And besdies bottom line YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVALIGE simple as that At least i write correctly Hmm? So i spelled soem things wrong. Big woop. Quite frankly I dont spend hours on end checking my spelling. Anyways...owned? Dungeoneering isn't a skill. I'm faster than bots at Sorceress Garden. PM me if you want to chat. My PM is always off. My keyboard is on fire. Want some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyZ003 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Skil lcapes are one of the best Memebers capes EVER released EVER!. why would jagex hand it over to F2P.. like someone said before You dont have the Privilege Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickyBee32 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 On a gaming and personal standpoint, they should. Forget what Jagex wants, is not part of the discussion. The debate is whether they should, not whether they will. As Achievement Capes goes, their purpose is to recognize those who had reached 99 in a given skill. Thats all. And no matter how you look at it, getting 99 in F2P is by far bigger achievement than ANY 99 skill in Members. Looking at achievement, the only difference is that you pay $5, they don't. I'm going to respectfully disagree. To me, as a member, there are a lot more options available for maxing out a skill than there are for non-members. Personally speaking, I am more impressed by seeing a non-member with 99 than a member with 99. yes a non greedy member keep it up chicky ur great!! *hides all her no update for F2P posts* Although I'm not against updates for F2P, I'm just disgusted by the sense of entitlement that the majority of F2P players have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomtom99 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 capes for f2p are good for them hen they can show their 99's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhasa Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 [hide=posts]No. True they got a 99 skill, but they are f2p. Members are PAYING for a reason. F2Pers arn't suppos to be getting all the benificts of members, even if it is only a small cape. Look here Most people don't pay FOR the achiviement cape....most buy because of the benefits that membership gives like more bank space,acess to all area in the game world, etc... But some people train skills like cooking at member because have more thing to cook than in FTP What im saying thats FTPs should have cape with these bonuses: Def in all stats:+4 Don't be able to get trimmed only untrimmed ones Prayer bonuses at least in +2 And the skill simbol in the cape Almost the same as member but with less bonuses as PTP Thats pointless. Who actully wares the cape for the prayer and def bonuses? IF you are so crazy abut em, buy a obby cape But we aren't saying that we wanna the obby cape...we wanna ACHIEVEMENT CAPES!!!! Thats kinda diference dont? well im just saying the bonuses that F2Ps want like Prayer (few things give) and Def bonuses (better than normal capes that we get) THAT what I wanted to say not about the obby one What? You jsut went on blabbering about def and prayer bonueses. And besdies bottom line YOU DO NOT HAVE THE PRIVALIGE simple as that At least i write correctly[/hide] Hmm? So i spelled soem things wrong. Big woop. Quite frankly I dont spend hours on end checking my spelling. Anyways...owned? me neither noob...only cuz im brasilian that don't make me a noob... now you owned and stop spamming this post My stats Quited RuneScape-17 July 2007, Still fighting for f2p rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyh7 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Doesn't matter what we think - Jagex would never give f2p achievement capes. :-# Why do people make huge quote chains? Surely they can edit the quote so only the latest quote is displayed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE03 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Doesn't matter what we think - Jagex would never give f2p achievement capes. :-# Why do people make huge quote chains? Surely they can edit the quote so only the latest quote is displayed? The thread is not about whether they will or not, but rather whether or not they should get the cape. [spoiler=Stats:]Updated December 22, 2011: Total level - 1442 - 170M+ XP , Combat level - 115Combat skills: Attack - 90, Defence - 99 (24.45m+ XP), Strength - 90, Constitution - 99 (16.42M+ XP) Ranged - 99 (13.32M+ XP), Prayer - 60, Magic - 99 (13.25M+ XP)Non-Combat skills: Cooking - 99 (13.80M+ XP), Woodcutting - 99 (31.95M+ XP), Fishing - 90, Firemaking - 99 (24.82M+), Crafting - 90, Smithing - 90, Mining - 85, Runecrafting - 60, Dungeoneering - 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyh7 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 The thread is not about whether they will or not, but rather whether or not they should get the cape. Is that not rather pointless? :-s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 The thread is not about whether they will or not, but rather whether or not they should get the cape. Is that not rather pointless? :-sThe point is to find out people's opinions... And also to try to persuade those with opposite opinions to yours to change theirs... It IS a debate, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunksrs Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 I wouldn't mind if F2P got achievement capes. Like alot of people have said, it's harder to get 99 stats on F2P, so they "deserve" a reward for it more. But I don't think it should have the same bonuses as on members worlds. It just seems to overpowered for a F2P cape. I do like the portal idea though. I think it would be stupid for all the masters to be moved to F2P areas. We just need a creative place to put them. Look, if your mom still drops you off at school, you ain't gangsta, pull up your damn pants!3 down, 7 to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 But I don't think it should have the same bonuses as on members worlds. It just seems to overpowered for a F2P cape.I must agree. Even with no bonuses, they would be greatly appreciated. I do like the portal idea though. I think it would be stupid for all the masters to be moved to F2P areas. We just need a creative place to put them.I agree here, too. It would take a large amount of work to move them all. The portal idea would work or they could have somebody picked out to give them out in free worlds, for example the Wise Old Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollyboy Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I have to sit on the fence for this. But here are some of the reasons why i think they do/dont deserve skillcapes. Do they deserve it? (1) A logical answer to this would be yes, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication. They don't deserve it. (1) Its a benefit of members. (2) F2pers will be asking for more items, which would just destroy the concept of f2p being f2p in the first place. F2p is just meant to be a small taste of p2p. (3) I can't help it feel that the question, should they deserve it?, rather feels bias. The concept "deserve" feels like it is based on hard work and dedication. Hey didnt some of us have to earn $5 just to "deserve" a/the skillcape(s). For the topice of changing the stats if skill capes were introduced to f2p, the stats would have to stay the same. Are there any of the same items in f2p with different stats to p2p? No. -pshht over and out. "I'd rather bear the comments people say to insult ya, then to poison my skin and erase my culture " - Deep Foundation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairness Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 At least i write correctly Oh, the irony. F2ps actually sometimes deserve the skillcape more than members. How do Members level combat skills? Pest control. How do F2ps level them? Through the normal method, which is much more and harder work. You're being watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmage099 Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Yes. Why? Because it is illogical to think that a 99 skill means LESS on ftp than on ptp. In fact, it can be argued that it is more of an achievement on ftp to get 99 than ptp....but that's another story. I do not see why these are ptp. Why can a ftp person who has done the same thing with less of an advantage not be able to show it off? I think that ftp definately deserve it...well maybe not the wcing cape but that is a different story Trix.--quit WoW as of 12/07Thank you 4be2jue for the wonderful sig and avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkforaster Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I wouldn't mind if F2P got achievement capes. Like alot of people have said, it's harder to get 99 stats on F2P, so they "deserve" a reward for it more. But I don't think it should have the same bonuses as on members worlds. It just seems to overpowered for a F2P cape. I do like the portal idea though. I think it would be stupid for all the masters to be moved to F2P areas. We just need a creative place to put them. I think it would be better if there was a f2p master which sold you all the capes (if you have 99 in that skill). This would stop the need of portals, and f2p wandering in p2p areas. It should have the same bonuses. otherwise, they didn't really achieve anything other than: - pesky people always asking of do the emote. - the ability to do the emote. The achievement cape should give you high bonuses. that's why it's there. to help balance out the argument. Lumbridge and it's past. Read here to find out about it.if you have time to waste then click hereTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 The achievement cape should give you high bonuses. that's why it's there. to help balance out the argument.Funny... I thought it was there simply to show your, dare I say it, achievement! In which case, they should be available to F2P as it is still an achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrowbld Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 i think they do because if a f2p get lv 99 in a skill they deserve some kind of reward for all the time they spend leveling it up. On the other hand i think getting the amount of money would be hard for a f2p player to get But seriously, I will kill you allI am back for realz this time I promise now that I am a member :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE03 Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think it would be better if there was a f2p master which sold you all the capes (if you have 99 in that skill). This would stop the need of portals, and f2p wandering in p2p areas. There woudn't be any "wandering" involved according to my suggestion: What if there was a portal that took you to the skill master to buy the cape. In F2P worlds you would not be able to leave the area or interact with anything besides the skill master. Thoughts? [spoiler=Stats:]Updated December 22, 2011: Total level - 1442 - 170M+ XP , Combat level - 115Combat skills: Attack - 90, Defence - 99 (24.45m+ XP), Strength - 90, Constitution - 99 (16.42M+ XP) Ranged - 99 (13.32M+ XP), Prayer - 60, Magic - 99 (13.25M+ XP)Non-Combat skills: Cooking - 99 (13.80M+ XP), Woodcutting - 99 (31.95M+ XP), Fishing - 90, Firemaking - 99 (24.82M+), Crafting - 90, Smithing - 90, Mining - 85, Runecrafting - 60, Dungeoneering - 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkforaster Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think it would be better if there was a f2p master which sold you all the capes (if you have 99 in that skill). This would stop the need of portals, and f2p wandering in p2p areas. There woudn't be any "wandering" involved according to my suggestion: What if there was a portal that took you to the skill master to buy the cape. In F2P worlds you would not be able to leave the area or interact with anything besides the skill master. Thoughts? Yes but i still don't see the portals as neccessary, there are lots of skills. Only 7 are members only. That means there need to be a portal for: crafting, firemaking, cooking, fishing, woodcutting, attack, defence, strength, prayer, runecrafting, smithing, mining,hitpoints, magic and range. All these have different locations, with different people who say different things. That's going to take up a LOT of space. Something that jagex can not afford to do. Lumbridge and it's past. Read here to find out about it.if you have time to waste then click hereTake the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuhasa Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 I think it would be better if there was a f2p master which sold you all the capes (if you have 99 in that skill). This would stop the need of portals, and f2p wandering in p2p areas. There woudn't be any "wandering" involved according to my suggestion: What if there was a portal that took you to the skill master to buy the cape. In F2P worlds you would not be able to leave the area or interact with anything besides the skill master. Thoughts? it would be better put the masters in f2ps areas but what he said about the portal i think is just like this: You step trought the portal... ...You enter in a room with the FireMaking master (example maybe it would be thief but, example) i think that is this what he wanted to mean not that f2ps could enter in p2p areas My stats Quited RuneScape-17 July 2007, Still fighting for f2p rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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